So says the MetO. On the plus side that would suggest a mild winter. On the downside, the models can't even handle weather patterns a week out let alone two seasons, so what a load of old guff. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40683302

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I remember they said the same thing when we had that run of colder winters a few years ago.

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So says the MetO. On the plus side that would suggest a mild winter. On the downside, the models can't even handle weather patterns a week out let alone two seasons, so what a load of old guff. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40683302

 

 

But if the rainfall descends to ground level in a frozen, crystalline state, we'd all be happy.

 

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So says the MetO. On the plus side that would suggest a mild winter. On the downside, the models can't even handle weather patterns a week out let alone two seasons, so what a load of old guff. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40683302

Just as likely as when they said we need to prepare for Mediterranean summers and plant cacti in our gardens after 2006 hot summer. A load of baloney and not worth commenting on any further.

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So says the MetO. On the plus side that would suggest a mild winter. On the downside, the models can't even handle weather patterns a week out let alone two seasons, so what a load of old guff. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40683302

I'm sure we'd all love more mild winters.

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I'm sure we'd all love more mild winters.

 

 

Troll!

 

 

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Troll!

 

 

Especially mild in St Helens. 

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Especially mild in St Helens. 

 

Wouldn't be the first time

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So says the MetO. On the plus side that would suggest a mild winter. On the downside, the models can't even handle weather patterns a week out let alone two seasons, so what a load of old guff. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40683302

I don't think this specifically refers to next winter - rather the risk of unprecedented rainfall in winters in general is increased. That's my reading of it anyway.

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I don't think this specifically refers to next winter - rather the risk of unprecedented rainfall in winters in general is increased. That's my reading of it anyway.

Yes, same here John.

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I don't think this specifically refers to next winter - rather the risk of unprecedented rainfall in winters in general is increased. That's my reading of it anyway.

I suspect you're aware of this:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/2017/high-risk-of-unprecedented-rainfall

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Yes, same here John.

Agreed 

I think it's very much linked with the increase in 'extremes' in our climate. The severe stuff tends to be more severe etc etc.

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Did you see the study linking climate change to a massively increased chance of vile, putrid weather in the Aberdeen region?

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Oh, I certainly hope not. Excessive winter rainfall benefits nobody at all in the slightest.

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Oh, I certainly hope not. Excessive winter rainfall benefits nobody at all in the slightest.

It's good for southern aquifers and preventing summer droughts and water shortages surely?

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Agreed 

I think it's very much linked with the increase in 'extremes' in our climate. The severe stuff tends to be more severe etc etc.

So why is the weather always so boring and insipid these days? ;)

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ok if your a duck.

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Oh, I certainly hope not. Excessive winter rainfall benefits nobody at all in the slightest.

 It does not necessarily mean that all the precipitation will be of the liquid variety.

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So why is the weather always so boring and insipid these days? ;)

There's also an increase in extreme boring and insipid weather.

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What our future winters will be like is an interesting subject. Generally how mild/cold/wet/dry a winter is, depends more or less on how positive or negative the NAO is for that winter. Between the 1960s and 1990s, the NAO seemed to be on an upward trend. However recent years have seen a downward trend. It has been suggested that both of these shifts were caused by AGW. So it seems hard to know what the future holds.

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