Gavin P
02 March 2015 22:47:13

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Verdict?



At least it gave us something to talk about in the "build up"


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Saint Snow
02 March 2015 22:50:25

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Verdict?



 


Bin it.




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lanky
02 March 2015 23:03:54

Very good result for E and NE USA but didn't work out for NW Europe at all well


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Medlock Vale Weather
02 March 2015 23:11:49

Put it this way I don't think it will be discussed with as much enthusiasm this October.


It will probably be plus figure in October and we will be buried up to our waist in snow the following Winter, putting a further nail in OPI coffin


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Retron
03 March 2015 04:52:57

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Verdict?



Little correlation with what happened, unfortunately:


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index_ensm.shtml


One swallow doesn't a summer make, but the first real test of the OPI hasn't shown it in a good light...


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Russwirral
03 March 2015 09:42:20
hmm....

It certainly hasnt been a mild winter, lots of snow for some places, and I would argue a large portion of the UK has seen snow falling, with another large amount seeing it settle.

This to me in my eyes despite being fairly benign for MBY, has been a more wintry than average winter (but only slightly) I think the OPI has probably delivered a signal.. but not a concrete answer. I think people are unfairly expecting snow on the ground for weeks on end.. that kind of scenario is a 1 in 20 yr event probably. This isnt reflective of the typical UK Winter.

The winter of 2014/15 should be considered a classic - similar to how the summer of 2014 was seen.

I think the OPI should be considered as a good indicator in the winter forecasts in future.
Brian Gaze
03 March 2015 09:49:16

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Little correlation with what happened, unfortunately:


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index_ensm.shtml


One swallow doesn't a summer make, but the first real test of the OPI hasn't shown it in a good light...



 Very good summary IMO. 


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Stormchaser
03 March 2015 10:05:53

GFS Ensemble Arctic Oscillation Outlooks


A different angle this, but how often does the AO climb all the way up to +6 as shown for a week's time...? Seems pretty extreme 


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Global Warming
08 March 2015 09:31:29

The mean AO index figure for winter 2014/15 was +0.85. This is one of the highest figures in the historic series going back to 1950. So the OPI was a very poor predictor of the AO index this year.


Highest DJF AO index mean figures


1988/89  2.69 
1992/93  1.77
1989/90  1.25
1999/00  1.13
1991/92  1.09
1972/73  1.09
2006/07  1.00
1975/76  0.99
2007/08  0.86
2014/15  0.85


So winter 2014/15 saw the 10th highest AO index in the last 65 years

Global Warming
08 March 2015 09:39:41

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


A different angle this, but how often does the AO climb all the way up to +6 as shown for a week's time...? Seems pretty extreme 



The AO index exceeded +5 yesterday (7 March). http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index.html


Prior to yesterday the AO index had only exceeded +5 on 14 days since 1950. So this is indeed very unusual. The AO index has never reached 6 so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few days. All previous instances of a >+5 index have been in Dec, Jan or Feb.


Highest daily AO figures on record


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