johncs2016
01 September 2017 04:40:22

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

I've used this thread a lot this summer but ironically I spent the last day of summer at North Berwick in beautiful warm sunshine on a white sandy beach!


It was the same here in Edinburgh with those showers which were forecast, nowhere in sight. Yet, yesterday was supposed to be the most showery day of the week according to the BBC forecasts and once again, this shows that these forecasts can't really be relied upon, as has been mentioned a few times on this thread.


EDIT:


Yesterday's nice weather meant that what was a poor summer at least ended up on a dry, sunny and fairly warm note. The same can't be said though for this autumn which has already started off on a showery note, even this early in the morning although from now on, that will be more of a subject for the autumn moaning thread when that starts up.


 


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richardabdn
01 September 2017 19:45:05

No good end to summer here. Terrible day yesterday with heavy downpours during the afternoon and a miserable cold, wet evening. Much better today probably due to it no longer being summer, the year's bleakest season.


First summer since 2012 when I have failed to average 10,000 steps per day which says it all. Really the only good week was 12th -18th July when I was in Greece. 1st-12th July and 27th July - 20th August about average. The rest - horrific.


The last third of August has been a sickening waste of the last few weeks of light evenings


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johncs2016
01 September 2017 20:03:07

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


No good end to summer here. Terrible day yesterday with heavy downpours during the afternoon and a miserable cold, wet evening. Much better today probably due to it no longer being summer, the year's bleakest season.


First summer since 2012 when I have failed to average 10,000 steps per day which says it all. Really the only good week was 12th -18th July when I was in Greece. 1st-12th July and 27th July - 20th August about average. The rest - horrific.


The last third of August has been a sickening waste of the last few weeks of light evenings



No surprise there of course, since the BBC did say that the worst of yesterday's showers would be around the Aberdeen/Aberdeenshire (for all of those southerners with little knowledge of Scotland's geography the City of Aberdeen and the county of Aberdeenshire are actually two separate but adjacent areas which are each run by a different local council) area so at least, the BBC managed to get something right about yesterday.


Here, we did get the showers during the early part of this morning which we were supposed to get yesterday, but that soon cleared up to leave us with a nice day afterwards.


 


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David M Porter
01 September 2017 20:31:11

Poorest overall summer since at least 2012 here, although even that summer managed one decent week in early August.


Much as I thought last summer and that of 2015 were both poor at the time, this one has taken the biscuit.


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idj20
08 September 2017 10:13:05

 I've just popped outside to get the papers and not only I felt colder but got soaked wet to the skin (we've just reached the 10 mm mark rainfall since midnight).

I'm already bored of this Autumn. Roll on next Spring but the medium range ouputs are offering a glimmer of hope in terms of a return to "summer"-like conditions in about 7 to 10 days time - but we all should know how it is with that forecasting time frame and there's still a lot of Autumnal-related junk to get through first.

Of course, my own gripe is trivial when looking at the bigger picture (Hurricane Irma).


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Saint Snow
11 September 2017 13:39:30

Even some poor summers have had a sort of consolatory nice spell in September. But this one so far is like a worsening extension of the awful August.


 



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Hungry Tiger
11 September 2017 13:47:48

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Reading this thread, members may wonder why on earth do we Scotland dwellers stay here. There is more to life than weather though and for me who is a countryside/scenery lover who wants to live in a city, you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere compatible.
The city itself is so attractive, the architecture, the engineering (the 3 bridges are stunning), the culture, the world's largest Festival, the diversity and forward thinking people. The amazing frequent 24hr bus system (£1.60 single right across the city), frequent trains to London in less than 5hrs and an International airport. The city's landscape of cobbled streets, sandy beaches, the Forth Estuary and its Edinburgh harbours of Newhaven and Leith, numerous hills giving panaramic views in the city itself (Arthurs Seat 251m) The Pentland Hills tower over the city (500m). The Lammemuirs and Moorfoot ranges wrap themselves around the place.
Slightly further field we have East Lothian with its stunning sandy beaches, golf courses and landscapes. North Berwick is 30 mins on the train. We have the quiet unspoilt Borders with miles of rolling hills, Tweedbank is 30 mins on the train. Dumfries and Galaway, Highland Perthshire, Argyll and Bute all accessible in less than 2 hrs. The rest of the awesome Highlands and Islands, the Lake District, Northumberland, Yorkshire Dales...all are my playground as a walker and geographer.
Even the weather is not that bad really....usually....with Edinburgh as dry and sunny as the East Midlands. It's not very warm, its always windy, thunder is rare, summers can be horrendous (2017 😣)....but snow is usually within sight in winter!
Just thought I'd put a different view across for a change 😊



That sounds excellent. I've only been to Edinburgh twice in my life. When you put it like that - sounds great. I like culture and geography. If I do have to move a bit later on in life - Sounds like somewhere I should think about.


 


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johncs2016
11 September 2017 14:29:45

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Even some poor summers have had a sort of consolatory nice spell in September. But this one so far is like a worsening extension of the awful August.


 



 


I can go even further than that by saying that September has generally in recent times been an extension to summer (as Gavin P. has even said a in a number of his videos in the past) and that was certainly the case last year. I can also recall that not too long ago, we actually had our driest September on record here in record as high pressure dominated our weather right throughout that period. If you ask anyone on the street as well even if they aren't exactly weather experts, they will usually always tell you that at least, September will probably be a decent month on the basis of recent experiences, even if we have just had a poor summer.


However, that is clearly not happening this year and because of that, it has become even clearer now that we probably actually ended up having our 'summer' back in May this year, since that was also when we had our highest temperatures of the year. With this unsettled weather which we're getting, it is beyond belief that even with that, we are still managing to remain drier than average during this month so far here in Edinburgh at a time when just everywhere else has been wetter than average, and substantially so in a number of places. As I mentioned in another thread earlier on today though, going by the number of rain days paints a completely different picture and so far, we haven't even manage to string together two successive back-to-back completely dry days at any point in time during this month so far.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Saint Snow
11 September 2017 14:50:37

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Reading this thread, members may wonder why on earth do we Scotland dwellers stay here. There is more to life than weather though and for me who is a countryside/scenery lover who wants to live in a city, you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere compatible.
The city itself is so attractive, the architecture, the engineering (the 3 bridges are stunning), the culture, the world's largest Festival, the diversity and forward thinking people. The amazing frequent 24hr bus system (£1.60 single right across the city), frequent trains to London in less than 5hrs and an International airport. The city's landscape of cobbled streets, sandy beaches, the Forth Estuary and its Edinburgh harbours of Newhaven and Leith, numerous hills giving panaramic views in the city itself (Arthurs Seat 251m) The Pentland Hills tower over the city (500m). The Lammemuirs and Moorfoot ranges wrap themselves around the place.
Slightly further field we have East Lothian with its stunning sandy beaches, golf courses and landscapes. North Berwick is 30 mins on the train. We have the quiet unspoilt Borders with miles of rolling hills, Tweedbank is 30 mins on the train. Dumfries and Galaway, Highland Perthshire, Argyll and Bute all accessible in less than 2 hrs. The rest of the awesome Highlands and Islands, the Lake District, Northumberland, Yorkshire Dales...all are my playground as a walker and geographer.
Even the weather is not that bad really....usually....with Edinburgh as dry and sunny as the East Midlands. It's not very warm, its always windy, thunder is rare, summers can be horrendous (2017 😣)....but snow is usually within sight in winter!
Just thought I'd put a different view across for a change 😊


 


And Edinburgh's got some great strip bars!


 



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johncs2016
11 September 2017 14:54:28

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


And Edinburgh's got some great strip bars!


 



.. and a decent football team.


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Saint Snow
11 September 2017 14:55:27

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


 


.. and a decent football team.



 


I wouldn't really class Hearts as 'decent'



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Saint Snow
11 September 2017 14:57:32



Martin
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johncs2016
11 September 2017 15:16:27

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


I wouldn't really class Hearts as 'decent'



I fully agree with that. There is only one decent football team in Edinburgh, but that certainly isn't Hearts.


 


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Gray-Wolf
11 September 2017 16:13:25

I know none of us loved the post 07' 'washout summers' but , as folk noted, as so as the kids were back in school we generally settled into settled spell until October.


Now usual suspects butt out but if the 2012 melt season, and the opening of the Pacific side of the basin, altered both the strength of WACCy impacts but also 'skewed' the distribution then the alteration in Pacific forcings ( IPO/PDO) back in 2014 may also have 'tweaked' further this new WACCy set up.


The attempts for Nino, from 2013 onward until the 2015/16 super Nino muddied this pattern so this year may well be the first year we see the 'new' setup?


Will Autumn/early winter over the basin rip away this pattern as the the PV struggles to form/is displaced robbing us at a decent shot for a winter wonderland again? That would surely be the worse of both worlds!!!


 


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Solar Cycles
11 September 2017 16:18:32
Oh for the love of god stop wrecking threads with WACKY ideas. We've discussed the PDO to death and I've posted link after link regarding it.😏
richardabdn
11 September 2017 17:49:27

September has been abysmal so far. Utterly awful. Very little sun over the past week and horrible drizzly rain almost every day. What should be the last few weeks for sitting out in the garden, or being outdoors in the evenings, are being written off completely. Ridiculous number of wet lunchtimes too.


Terrible monthly high of 18.4C so far and when that was recorded, last Wednesday, I was enduring 13C and drizzle in Glasgow. At the same time, no cold nights at all – it has not even dropped below 8C which is incredulous as even 2006 had a couple of sub-6C minima.


Really I could not imagine how things could be any worse than what we have had the moment. A dismal end to one of the most unremittingly dire April to September periods I can recall along with 1993, 1998 and 2010. To not get one good month in the summer half of the year is beyond sickening


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David M Porter
11 September 2017 17:56:48

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


September has been abysmal so far. Utterly awful. Very little sun over the past week and horrible drizzly rain almost every day. What should be the last few weeks for sitting out in the garden, or being outdoors in the evenings, are being written off completely. Ridiculous number of wet lunchtimes too.


Terrible monthly high of 18.4C so far and when that was recorded, last Wednesday, I was enduring 13C and drizzle in Glasgow. At the same time, no cold nights at all – it has not even dropped below 8C which is incredulous as even 2006 had a couple of sub-6C minima.


Really I could not imagine how things could be any worse than what we have had the moment. A dismal end to one of the most unremittingly dire April to September periods I can recall along with 1993, 1998 and 2010. To not get one good month in the summer half of the year is beyond sickening



I would agree with you Richard, except for the fact that our "summer" this year came during late April and early May!


In my area, late May/early June was the start of the rot this year and it has never recovered since.


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Solar Cycles
11 September 2017 18:23:56

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


I would agree with you Richard, except for the fact that our "summer" this year came during late April and early May!


In my area, late May/early June was the start of the rot this year and it has never recovered since.


The firsr half of June wasn't that bad Dave around here, July and August have been appalling and some of the worst conditions for warmth in living memory.

Gray-Wolf
11 September 2017 19:40:37

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


The firsr half of June wasn't that bad Dave around here, July and August have been appalling and some of the worst conditions for warmth in living memory.



Agreement from over the hill!!!


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Solar Cycles
11 September 2017 20:02:30

Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf 


 


Agreement from over the hill!!!


I thought your side of the Pennines had fared better Gray, I do believe that October will bring some very unseasonably warm and dry weather though. 

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