Dreadful day here, windy , heavy showers, cold 17c, pathetic for the height of summer. Had some sunshine in between showers with the cloud,around 4 this afternoon was looking very promising and on the drive home, but turned very overcast at five this afternoon, very gloomy and another dump of rain started about half hour ago, feels like late autumn dark and dank. Been saying all along central and eastern Europe having a great summer, temps in the 30's often plus some thunderstorms.(since late July) Its definitely blocked pattern over that part of Europe causing our poor summer. Was hoping to take some extra days around bank holiday , but the model runs seem to be getting worse every run

Not a bad day in our part of Worcestershire again today - was sunny this morning and dry this afternoon - did not start to rain until about 6pm.

Goldilocks weather - dry by day and rain by night. Sorry for all those getting nasty weather during daylight hours.

 

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That is some different in temps between eastern and western Europa at the mo!

 

 

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I know that this isn't a football forum. However upon following today's games in the Scottish Premiership, I saw the report for Aberdeen FC's match at Pittodrie Stadium in the city of Aberdeen on the BBC Sport website where they reported quite a big hail storm there. When I saw that, my first thoughts were that since that is in Richard's neck of the woods, he will probably be on this thread to tell us about that very shortly (I would be very surprised if he doesn't).

Meanwhile down here in Scotland's capital city of Edinburgh, today's temperatures haven't been quite as poor as what they were yesterday, but there is still a cool wind there, with the odd shower as well being blown through on that wind. Of course, we are now less than two weeks away from the start of the meteorological autumn when the big countdown to the following winter usually goes more into overdrive, and the weather just now is continuing to provide us with that reminder about autumn being just around the corner, in the same way in which it has been doing in this part of the world, for a good part of this summer.

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I know that this isn't a football forum. However upon following today's games in the Scottish Premiership, I saw the report for Aberdeen FC's match at Pittodrie Stadium in the city of Aberdeen on the BBC Sport website where they reported quite a big hail storm there. When I saw that, my first thoughts were that since that is in Richard's neck of the woods, he will probably be on this thread to tell us about that very shortly (I would be very surprised if he doesn't

I could see the hail falling but didn't actually have a view of the ground at the time although that might seem strange. Pittodrie would be a good 4 or so miles away from where I believe Richard's house is so he may have not caught the shower. Would have been good to get a photo of the event though.

 

I could see the hail falling but didn't actually have a view of the ground at the time although that might seem strange. Pittodrie would be a good 4 or so miles away from where I believe Richard's house is so he may have not caught the shower. Would have been good to get a photo of the event though.

We caught it here about 1.5 miles away and it has been showery on and off since then (albeit nothing as heavy). I recorded over 4mm in 4 minutes from that shower.

A dry day or two in a row would be nice. I think it is almost inevitable that all three summer months will be wetter than average here (if that's not already the case after today).

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Just been scrolling through some of the Met office station stats for Bradford for July and August and my conclusion is we have never had it so good. The 50's and 60's are particularly bad. 1956 had an average August max of just 15.6c and there were many other terrible summers in the period. A July with an average max in the 16's for example. The last 30 years with an average july max over 20c is the best period by far. What a time to be alive!
This July average max of 19.9c is better than most summers pre 1990.

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The data to go with the above: Average max summer temp (June /July/August)

19.5c 1998 to 2017
18.8c 1978 to 1997
18.5c 1957 to 1977
18.6c 1937 to 1957
18.4c 1917 to 1937
18.1c 1907 to 1917

Significantly warmer in recent times.

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Was in Prague for a week - temperatures were up to 30c most days and with strong sunshine. there was one night and morning when there was a shower or two but otherwise really warm and dry. Came back to be greeted at Bristol airport by wind and rain!!

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I could see the hail falling but didn't actually have a view of the ground at the time although that might seem strange. Pittodrie would be a good 4 or so miles away from where I believe Richard's house is so he may have not caught the shower. Would have been good to get a photo of the event though.

I'm on the other side of the city to Pittodrie but I wasn't here yesterday. Was down in Fife (St Andrews, Anstruther and Pittenweem) where it was supposed to stay dry though there was a couple of very light showers around 4pm.

Only caught 1.6mm here yesterday so must have missed the worst of it, but nevertheless the 14th day out of 19 this month waith measurable rainfall

Today looks like the best of the weather is gone already. Clouded up considerably after a fine but cool and windy start. Never any improving days any more when the best of the weather manages to coincide with the warmest part of the day

Another poor weekend. Just one weekend day the whole of July and August that managed as much as 7 hours sun. Truly disgraceful 

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Just been scrolling through some of the Met office station stats for Bradford for July and August and my conclusion is we have never had it so good. The 50's and 60's are particularly bad. 1956 had an average August max of just 15.6c and there were many other terrible summers in the period. A July with an average max in the 16's for example. The last 30 years with an average july max over 20c is the best period by far. What a time to be alive!
This July average max of 19.9c is better than most summers pre 1990.

Yes, the summers of that period were bad but TBH there isn't much difference between it raining at 19c and raining at 16c, you still can't have a bbq! This summer with its excessive rainfall and cloud compares with any crap summer from the1960s

And in the 1950s and 60s they had plenty of cold winters to compensate!

I think the weather up north since 2011 is about as miserable and depressing as any in the last 200 years and I certainly don't feel lucky for living through it!!!

Andy

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Well after a damp, misty miserable start today, it has cleared up this afternoon and produced the warmest day of the month, local weather station showed 23.6c, maybe tomorrow we will get to 25c ! looks only for one day though. I like to see 25c and above and also 30c and above for a good summer month.

We have had a completely dry day today here, if predominantly cloudy. We haven't been able to say that very often in the past two-and-a-half months!

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Just been scrolling through some of the Met office station stats for Bradford for July and August and my conclusion is we have never had it so good. The 50's and 60's are particularly bad. 1956 had an average August max of just 15.6c and there were many other terrible summers in the period. A July with an average max in the 16's for example. The last 30 years with an average july max over 20c is the best period by far. What a time to be alive!
This July average max of 19.9c is better than most summers pre 1990.

I`m not moaning about this summer, having lived through the 50s and 60s, and most of the 40s, I`ve seen it all before. Anyway, what do you expect from a country as far north as it is, and near the edge of the Atlantic?

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We have had a completely dry day today here, if predominantly cloudy. We haven't been able to say that very often in the past two-and-a-half months!

Of course, it will only technically be a completely dry day if it doesn't rain before midnight, although there are still no signs even on the latest rain radar maps, of that rain which was forecast to reach us during tonight (it is very slowly edging towards us, but is still a very long away to our SW) which means that we basically can say, that this will end up being a completely dry day since I don't see that rain suddenly reaching us before midnight.

This in turn means that we remain stuck on the same monthly total which were on, on Saturday afternoon when 0.2 mm from a single shower brought us to a monthly total which is exactly equal to our monthly August average. Until we actually go over that monthly average, we cannot officially confirm this to be a wetter than average month overall. However, I did say over on the August Precipitation Watch thread that we might have quite a long wait until we go over that total, given the current circumstances and so far, this is proving to be the case as this wait to go over our monthly average continues.

This means that this month certainly won't come out to be as bad as what we had in June but since seem to be struggling to get any sort of significant rainfall totals at the moment, this month might well end up not much worse than July if that indeed, is how it ends up. I'm pretty certain will we will get a bit of rain over the next few days which means that this will probably still end up being a wetter than average month in the end, since that next measurable amount of rain will finally take us over that monthly average, but this month is turning out to be not as bad now as it appeared as though it would, not all that long ago.

 

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Of course, it will only technically be a completely dry day if it doesn't rain before midnight, although there are still no signs even on the latest rain radar maps, of that rain which was forecast to reach us during tonight (it is very slowly edging towards us, but is still a very long away to our SW) which means that we basically can say, that this will end up being a completely dry day since I don't see that rain suddenly reaching us before midnight.

This in turn means that we remain stuck on the same monthly total which were on, on Saturday afternoon when 0.2 mm from a single shower brought us to a monthly total which is exactly equal to our monthly August average. Until we actually go over that monthly average, we cannot officially confirm this to be a wetter than average month overall. However, I did say over on the August Precipitation Watch thread that we might have quite a long wait until we go over that total, given the current circumstances and so far, this is proving to be the case as this wait to go over our monthly average continues.

This means that this month certainly won't come out to be as bad as what we had in June but since seem to be struggling to get any sort of significant rainfall totals at the moment, this month might well end up not much worse than July if that indeed, is how it ends up. I'm pretty certain will we will get a bit of rain over the next few days which means that this will probably still end up being a wetter than average month in the end, since that next measurable amount of rain will finally take us over that monthly average, but this month is turning out to be not as bad now as it appeared as though it would, not all that long ago.

It is now the next morning and still, the rain which we were supposed to get refuses to enter this part of the world and (according to the latest rain radar maps at least) appears to have bypassed us altogether and gone to the north and west of here. This means that our increasingly long wait for this to be confirmed as a wetter than average month goes on, and the BBC forecasts have now been updated to say that the rest of the day will be dry as well. Could it therefore be possible that the unthinkable actually happens, where we actually never get that further rainfall before the end of the month (since this is now turning into quite a impressive dry spell), and that we therefore end up with just average rainfall this month?

Logically, you would have to say that this unlikely. However, we still need to see what happens with the cold front which is expected to move through during the early hours of tomorrow morning, but there is no guarantee that we will get anything from that after. After that, we are back to that familiar showery forecast which in recent times, has been delivering next to nothing in the way of rainfall here. At the moment, confidence is very low amongst the forecast models, but there is the odd one going for a build of high pressure towards the end of the month, which would then kill off our chances even further of getting any rain, if that actually ended up happening.

This means that whilst it is unlikely that the rest of the month will stay completely bone dry, that can't be completely ruled out either, so that is something which could actually, end up happening (though as I have said, that is very unlikely). What is certain though, is that whole ex-Hurricane Gert event in this part of the world has turned out to be a complete non-event here, since we don't have that really hot air here either, which parts of SE England are forecast to get.

Instead, we have yet more gloomy skies and that east coast haar being brought in from the North Sea on an easterly wind, thus making for what is probably the most depressing start to any day which you could possibly see. In a way, it might actually be better if did rain because at least that way, this would actually be something which is actually happening. However, I have to say that for what is supposed to be a fairly major weather event, this is just plain right boring with nothing actually happening at all and just now, it would probably be far more exciting to be watching paint dry, than to look for anything to actually happen as far as our weather is concerned.

You know, it used to be that our weather was interesting because of its variability, but as Richard from Aberdeen has pointed out before on those threads (and not just this particular thread for this particular summer) this is becoming much less of the case these days and surely, even the thought of having to suffer that has to be akin to serving quite an extensive prison sentence without even committing any sort of crime beforehand, other than just actually being here.

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Reading this thread, members may wonder why on earth do we Scotland dwellers stay here. There is more to life than weather though and for me who is a countryside/scenery lover who wants to live in a city, you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere compatible.
The city itself is so attractive, the architecture, the engineering (the 3 bridges are stunning), the culture, the world's largest Festival, the diversity and forward thinking people. The amazing frequent 24hr bus system (£1.60 single right across the city), frequent trains to London in less than 5hrs and an International airport. The city's landscape of cobbled streets, sandy beaches, the Forth Estuary and its Edinburgh harbours of Newhaven and Leith, numerous hills giving panaramic views in the city itself (Arthurs Seat 251m) The Pentland Hills tower over the city (500m). The Lammemuirs and Moorfoot ranges wrap themselves around the place.
Slightly further field we have East Lothian with its stunning sandy beaches, golf courses and landscapes. North Berwick is 30 mins on the train. We have the quiet unspoilt Borders with miles of rolling hills, Tweedbank is 30 mins on the train. Dumfries and Galaway, Highland Perthshire, Argyll and Bute all accessible in less than 2 hrs. The rest of the awesome Highlands and Islands, the Lake District, Northumberland, Yorkshire Dales...all are my playground as a walker and geographer.
Even the weather is not that bad really....usually....with Edinburgh as dry and sunny as the East Midlands. It's not very warm, its always windy, thunder is rare, summers can be horrendous (2017 😣)....but snow is usually within sight in winter!
Just thought I'd put a different view across for a change 😊

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Reading this thread, members may wonder why on earth do we Scotland dwellers stay here. There is more to life than weather though and for me who is a countryside/scenery lover who wants to live in a city, you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere compatible.
The city itself is so attractive, the architecture, the engineering (the 3 bridges are stunning), the culture, the world's largest Festival, the diversity and forward thinking people. The amazing frequent 24hr bus system (£1.60 single right across the city), frequent trains to London in less than 5hrs and an International airport. The city's landscape of cobbled streets, sandy beaches, the Forth Estuary and its Edinburgh harbours of Newhaven and Leith, numerous hills giving panaramic views in the city itself (Arthurs Seat 251m) The Pentland Hills tower over the city (500m). The Lammemuirs and Moorfoot ranges wrap themselves around the place.
Slightly further field we have East Lothian with its stunning sandy beaches, golf courses and landscapes. North Berwick is 30 mins on the train. We have the quiet unspoilt Borders with miles of rolling hills, Tweedbank is 30 mins on the train. Dumfries and Galaway, Highland Perthshire, Argyll and Bute all accessible in less than 2 hrs. The rest of the awesome Highlands and Islands, the Lake District, Northumberland, Yorkshire Dales...all are my playground as a walker and geographer.
Even the weather is not that bad really....usually....with Edinburgh as dry and sunny as the East Midlands. It's not very warm, its always windy, thunder is rare, summers can be horrendous (2017 😣)....but snow is usually within sight in winter!
Just thought I'd put a different view across for a change 😊

I'm in full agreement with you, that there are other things in life other than the weather but then, that is why there are other forums out there to deal with those various other subjects which you have mentioned. Since this is specifically a weather forum though, that is what I have come onto here to discuss and on that note, we finally had a little bit of drizzly rain later on this morning. However, that was barely enough to even wet the ground and since that is therefore unlikely to be enough to be seen as actual measurable rainfall by my nearest station, the wait for this month to finally be confirmed as a wetter than average month in this part of the world goes on.

Having said that though, we remain firmly within our usual permacast hell despite Judith Ralston telling us on this morning's BBC Scotland weather forecast that conditions would improve as the day wore on. That hasn't really really and all that has happened is our early morning fog has turned to mist, but is still rather thick. We have seen absolutely nothing at all of the Sun today with those leaden skies which we continue to be under, showing no signs of allowing even a glimmer of sunshine to come through. On top of that, this was supposed to be a warmer air mass which we were going into and yet, the temperature just a short while ago was still stuck at a rather pathetic 15C.

I suppose though, that this is just what you would refer to as typical summer weather here in Scotland

 

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Whoohoo! Edinburgh reaches 20 C for the 2nd time in August! Out in the garden!

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Whoohoo! Edinburgh reaches 20 C for the 2nd time in August! Out in the garden!

That is obviously quite a spike in the temperatures in just an hour or so (at midday, we were only at around 15C and overcast with even a little bit of drizzly rain), and it was only really because the cloud broke up for just a short while with this humid air mass in place, that the temperatures were able to suddenly shoot up in that fashion. That took a long time to happen though although by lunchtime, the sea fog which we had this morning, had thinned  a bit into more of a heavy mist.

Having said that, there could also be a local effect in play here because it is quite easy within Edinburgh to be basking in hot sunshine if you are in the southern half of the city, whilst the north of Edinburgh suffers from much cooler temperatures and that east coast haar as a result of being much closer to the Firth of Forth, and the east coast. I suspect that today was more like one of those days and in any case, our nice sunshine has now gone as we return to our usual permacast hell once again with that heavy mist (which has never actually completely cleared away from here all day today, with the visibility not all that much above the requirements for that to be fog, rather than mist) still in place and I wouldn't be surprised if that thickens back into fog later on tonight.

 

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