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doctormog
04 April 2021 11:20:30


If Michael and Richard don’t wake up to a decent covering of snow tomorrow it’s time to officially give up. 😀


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


It will probably be stuck to north facing surfaces thanks to the 60mph wind gusts that are forecast. 


I see that there is now a snow weather warning it for northern parts on Tuesday (as well as later today and tomorrow).


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2021-04-04


Snow is not unusual in April, but this depth of cold is. It is a bit hard to believe when the temperature is in the low teens here.


Jiries
04 April 2021 11:32:08


 


 


Yes sods law Moomin. I bet you any GFS chart like that 10 days away in the winter would be downgraded. As for this it has as you said been consistent for over a week now and if anything it's upgrading. The 18z ENS 850s mean for London is  -11.6c.😳


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Also if we don't get any single snow shower from that deep cold air coming here I will be very shocked because it impossible to stay dry throughout while other countries get snow storms to snow showers activities.  I never see a 5C max here under wall to wall sunshine in April so hope to see something out of it tomorrow for some interest while same time we get decent sunshine in between after weeks of boring cloudy March weather.

tallyho_83
04 April 2021 12:09:33


 


Also if we don't get any single snow shower from that deep cold air coming here I will be very shocked because it impossible to stay dry throughout while other countries get snow storms to snow showers activities.  I never see a 5C max here under wall to wall sunshine in April so hope to see something out of it tomorrow for some interest while same time we get decent sunshine in between after weeks of boring cloudy March weather.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


Given from mid February until the very end and even march we saw virtually no more wintry weather *maybe thanks to the la Nina) or record breaking zonal winds I am hopeful we will see something wintry.


The heat of the day and from warmer land is enough to radiate back put above and help build/enhance shower activity.


Let's hope we see something wintry like good old April's we use to have April 1998 being one of them.


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Retron
04 April 2021 13:15:27

Sumburgh Airport - in the Shetlands - looks like seeing truly exceptional deep cold air. From the 6z GFS:


http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample_C.shtml?text=egpb


Screencap for posterity!



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The Beast from the East
04 April 2021 13:35:49

Its so warm and sunny out here now, everyone in their gardens having drinks and BBQs


Hard to believe this time tomorrow its going to feel like winter again


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doctormog
04 April 2021 13:57:33


Sumburgh Airport - in the Shetlands - looks like seeing truly exceptional deep cold air. From the 6z GFS:


http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample_C.shtml?text=egpb


Screencap for posterity!



Originally Posted by: Retron 


Unst, which is a little bit further north is pretty impressive too: 


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http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample_C.shtml?text=EGPW 


Retron
04 April 2021 14:01:56


Unst, which is a little bit further north is pretty impressive too:


http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample_C.shtml?text=EGPW 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


501dam - brr!


(Annoyingly the "thickness extremes" charts only have the north of Scotland rather than the Northern Isles:


http://web.archive.org/web/20040212210545/http://www.booty.demon.co.uk/tthkxtrm.htm


I think that's 507dam or so as the record in April, so this spell will be right on the brink of equalling it!)


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doctormog
04 April 2021 14:23:43


 


501dam - brr!


(Annoyingly the "thickness extremes" charts only have the north of Scotland rather than the Northern Isles:


http://web.archive.org/web/20040212210545/http://www.booty.demon.co.uk/tthkxtrm.htm


I think that's 507dam or so as the record in April, so this spell will be right on the brink of equalling it!)


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I am wondering if the North of Scotland chart actually includes or refers to Shetland (based on the reference to 491dam at the bottom of the page). It’s hard to know for definite though.


Hungry Tiger
04 April 2021 14:48:02

Reckon I'm looking at a max tomorrow of about 5C.


 


 


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Joe Bloggs
04 April 2021 16:09:29
The automated Met Office forecast for Lerwick is absolutely bonkers.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gfxnjyxk4#?date=2021-04-04 



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moomin75
04 April 2021 16:14:37
Oh joy, winter arrives with a vengeance tomorrow and I am doing outdoor cricket coaching. Terrific.
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snow 2004
04 April 2021 17:25:26
So it’s looking more and more likely that tomorrow will be dry here rather than the initial soft hail and snow shower fest I expected.

Are the experts able to dig deeper on what the issue could be assuming things don’t kick off inland tomorrow.

My guess is the the flow is too fast to allow widespread inland convection. Maybe a cold pool with slack winds and strong sun is what’s needed to really allow deep convection to kick off.

Are the forecast ultra low DP’s hindering things too?

I expect the odd light flurry but nothing more.

The temp drop is going to be a real shock. Probably below zero all day on top of the Pennines.
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Bolty
04 April 2021 17:44:22
The change feels like it's beginning to arrive here now. Thick cloud is rolling in from the north west and the wind is gradually picking up. Feeling cooler too.
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Skreever
04 April 2021 18:11:25
Wintry showers now in Orkney
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Tim A
04 April 2021 18:52:31

Chance of lying snow here first thing tomorrow morning and up in NE England.
https://modeles14.meteociel.fr/modeles/euro4/runs/2021040412/euro4_uk1-46-17-0.png?04-17



Met Office automated also shows -1c with snow showers 5 to 8am.


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Joe Bloggs
04 April 2021 19:01:22


Brilliant webcam Doc. Looks like the latest showers have started to accumulate on roofs and cars. 



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howham
04 April 2021 20:00:13
Horizontal blowing snow showers here. White Easter!
Joe Bloggs
04 April 2021 21:15:54


 


Brilliant webcam Doc. Looks like the latest showers have started to accumulate on roofs and cars. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Brilliant snow shower in progress there now. 



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MRayner
04 April 2021 21:24:37

Went from 9C to -1 C in 4 hours, and now snowing heavily, and lying almost immediately , was surprised at that as ground temp must be still warm. 


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howham
04 April 2021 21:25:25
Two brief power cuts already tonight and the snow is settling.
Northern Sky
04 April 2021 22:03:25

A pretty hefty band of showers moving down though Scotland at the moment. I wonder if any will make it as far south as Leeds? 

Perthite1
05 April 2021 06:47:41

Really enjoying that webcam with the snow showers coming though. It’s a sultry Autumns day here in Perth around 26c with a dew point of 20c. So viewing those snow showers blowing in is very therapeutic. Thanks for the link. 

The Beast from the East
05 April 2021 08:21:15

Still a few members going for -20 and only hours away!


Upgrade for the second shot next weekend as well, though the extreme uppers have gone 



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richardabdn
05 April 2021 08:33:41

Down to -3.4C overnight which is the lowest I've recorded in April (previous lowest -3.1C in 2010). It's currently -0.9C and has been below freezing for 12 hours which is longer than any other April has recorded in it's entirety apart from 2008 and 2013 


Snow amounts underwhelming so far. Nothing like the depths or intensity seen in April 2012 or 2015.


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