0.23% of the whole NYC population has now died from CV19

How many people are they estimating have been infected?

*****Morgan rips Andrew Bridgen a new one for not understanding his own government's rules.

"You have just told me to do something that I'm not allowed to do." #GMB pic.twitter.com/8kOlElNloR

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) May 11, 2020

Morgan is usually an utter arsehole, but throughout this debacle he's been brilliant, and one of the few high-profile TV presenters/journalists to actually cut through the flannel and stand up to this incompetent shower of sh*te.

 How many people are they estimating have been infected?

I don't know, the state is testing at more than double our rate (~1.4m tests to date) and they have confirmed ~350k cases so far.

 

4. Don't look back now, that's all in the past - let's focus on the future

5. Who cares about what the public inquiry found, it's all ancient history now.

Excellent so we have our own five point alert system now? 

 

Oh for christ sake what do you want. I clarified my position and I said I do not believe that the UK will return to normality. So, what, because I made a misleading or unclear post that suddenly means I have to be judged against something I do not believe nor have ever believed.

Its semantic rubbish. I'm telling you now, this is my position:

I believe it would have been possible to return to the kind of normality we experienced in February (which is what I meant by 'virtual normality') I did not, nor ever claimed, that it would have been possible to return to a situation prior to the pandemic.

 

I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours. This is your problem, you care more about making quick gotcha points then what my position actually is.

 

If we rewind to how this saga began, GtW merely disputed your claim that if lockdown procedures had been followed we'd by now be 'virtually back to normal'.You could have saved yourself and GtW time and energy by just clarifying that saying 'virtually back to normal' was an error on your part, but instead you initially denied saying it (it was there in black and white!) then claiming you were correct in some context you'd concocted inside your your head.

Don't know whether this has been posted yet, but clarity emerges from the fog now the full document has been published:

Step One – Wednesday 13^th May

Work:

• Workers should continue to work from home rather than their normal physical workplace, wherever possible.


• Workers who cannot work from home should travel to work if their workplace is open.
  
  
  
  • e.g. food production, construction, manufacturing, logistics, distribution and scientific research in laboratories.
  
  
  • Exceptions being hospitality and non-essential retail
  
  
  
  


• workplaces should follow the new “COVID-19 Secure” guidelines, which will be published this week

Schools:

• A full reopening of schools is not on the table


• Hope that Reception, Year 1 and Year 6 pupils will be able to return to school, albeit in smaller class sizes


• Government hopes secondary school GCSE pupils will get some face-to-face time before the summer holidays, however as a supplement to continued online classes


• Nannies and childminders will be allowed to resume work, enabling more parents to return to work.

Travel: 

• Government to publish advice this week to transport operators on following appropriate guidance to make their services COVID-19 secure

Face-coverings:

• Homemade cloth face-coverings can help reduce the risk of transmission in some circumstances
  
  
  
  • Not the same as a facemask used by health workers
  
  
  • Shouldn’t be used by young children or primary age children or those with respiratory conditions
  
  
  
  

Public spaces:

• The risk of infection outside is significantly lower than inside


• Cannot meet up with any more than one person from outside your household


• Unlimited exercise


• However, playgrounds and outdoor gyms will remain closed


• You can drive to outdoor spaces irrespective of distance, provided you’re not crossing boundaries between England/Scotland/Wales

 

That's what I thought. Let's see what the PM says.

just read the detail on gov.uk and you can play golf and tennis for example with one person who is not from your household but you must maintain social distancing. 

 Excellent so we have our own five point alert system now? 

Yes, but some people will still manage to be in stage 6.

To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514

The Hospital Deaths for the four nations don't correspond with the total UK deaths announced each day, because the totals are taken at different intervals. So today we apparently have more hospital deaths than the deaths in all settings, that's just because of interval differences. These discrepancies will work in both directions and don't need analysis.

Meanwhile, here's a graph showing how the reported death dates and actual dates of death compare.

Another version of the report build-up animation, this time with the announced figure overlaid. So blue is the number of actual deaths on a given day and orange is the figure announced the following day (which a lot of people still think is the same thing!). pic.twitter.com/XtQzcirJMq

— Richard (RP 13) (@RP131) May 11, 2020

 

 

If we rewind to how this saga began, GtW merely disputed your claim that if lockdown procedures had been followed we'd by now be 'virtually back to normal'.You could have saved yourself and GtW time and energy by just clarifying that saying 'virtually back to normal' was an error on your part, but instead you initially denied saying it (it was there in black and white!) then claiming you were correct in some context you'd concocted inside your your head.

 

I never denied saying it, I merely said it was not intended to mean back to normal in the pre COVID sense.

Perhaps it was misleading, perhaps the terminology was wrong. Fine, I'll happily admit that. But after explicitly clarifying exactly what the position is multiple times, GTW still insists that I meant something else. So what, I lied about my own position now?

Its ridiculous, its clearly an attempt to score a gotcha point.

Guy on BBC news special just said could play singles tennis against someone OUTSIDE your household. Has he got that right as first I have heard.

Yes, that is correct. Is in the new guidelines. Again people need to understand that provided there is no cross transmission. 

 

I don’t believe that is correct, you can play with someone in your own household only. 

Wrong!

Where are we on the tory blame-dodging timeline? Looking like moving from Stage 2 to Stage 3 by the posts today?

1. Before the event - "well it's too early to tell / scaremongering / we have procedures in place"
2. At the time of the event - "now is not the time / rally round"
3. After the event - "well hindsight is always 20-20 / easy to criticise / lessons will be learned "

 

Wrong!

I know!

 I never denied saying it, I merely said it was not intended to mean back to normal in the pre COVID sense.

Oh lordy. At risk of being sucked into the vortex of another such 'debate', you did indeed deny saying it.

If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

We wouldn't have been 'virtually back to normal' because the measures taken weren't designed to eliminate the virus, merely to contain it.

I never said back to normal. I said back to February type conditions which is definitely possible

You'd never made mention of 'February type conditions' up until that point.

Like I said, if you'd have just corrected yourself or clarified in that reply to GtW's reply to your original assertion, we all could have saved ourself some bother.

In Paris, commuters who use the Metro in rush hour would need to have a letter from their employers explaining why they need to use the metro at that time of the day.

Can you play doubles Tennis btw

 

I know!

CV-19 is no longer an epidemic in UK
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/11/coronavirus-no-longer-epidemic-uk-oxford-study-finds-cases-falling/

I could believe this, most of our new cases could be from care homes (shameful).

Been watching PM answering questions in the House live. He is struggling somewhat to answer apart from the  friendly set up ones. He has got quite flustered a couple of times. I think one of the problems is he can't use his usual cheeky chap jokey routine on this subject. The one he is clearly lying about and not answering is the fact that he did not discuss the new measures with the devolved governments. His only answer was to keep saying that they could make their own decisions because they have different R values. But surely they are lower in many of the devolved regions so why would they make them stricter than England?

edit: Just said we are currently getting "billions of pieces of PPE to where they are needed". Billions? Honestly?