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doctormog
12 November 2026 07:54:34

Yet again at 00Z the big 3 want to keep the cold feeding down into Scotland and maybe N England for the next 7 days. MetO is my favourite this morning.

Small Lows are steered across the south from the W. Could be some localised snowfall events 🤔 It's a bit early but you never know.....

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

The outlook strikes me as generally chilly and unsettled as opposed to wintry.  Then again it is November so perhaps not surprising!


Lionel Hutz
12 November 2026 09:13:35

The outlook strikes me as generally chilly and unsettled as opposed to wintry.  Then again it is November so perhaps not surprising!

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gefs.aspx?run=na&lg=850&lglocation=manchester&charthour=60&chartname=ps_500hpa&chartregion=na-region&p=1&charttag=PS%20500hPa%20 (GPDM)

The GFS ensembles would seem to be in agreement with you, taking Manchester as one example. Given the long run of well above average temperatures that we've had for the year to date, I'll take that.


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Brian Gaze
12 November 2026 09:45:51

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gefs.aspx?run=na&lg=850&lglocation=manchester&charthour=60&chartname=ps_500hpa&chartregion=na-region&p=1&charttag=PS%20500hPa%20(GPDM)

The GFS ensembles would seem to be in agreement with you, taking Manchester as one example. Given the long run of well above average temperatures that we've had for the year to date, I'll take that.

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 

I would have thought that is the sort of profile Paul Bartlett may have been looking for when considering if the chance of a cold winter is above the norm. It would be a very exciting outcome, given that we've had month after month of above average CET.


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Rob K
12 November 2026 10:57:42
GFS has an interesting feature on Tuesday with heavy snowfall across Ireland and some northern parts of England. No doubt will be different come the day.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/06_126_preciptype.png 

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Quite a temperature gradient in that low, 15C on the south coast and close to freezing on the Scottish border.

Closer to the present, some quite sharp frosts on the way in the next couple of days. UKV has -5C here on Saturday morning.


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idj20
12 November 2026 11:25:10

GFS has an interesting feature on Tuesday with heavy snowfall across Ireland and some northern parts of England. No doubt will be different come the day.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/06_126_preciptype.png 

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Quite a temperature gradient in that low, 15C on the south coast and close to freezing on the Scottish border.

Closer to the present, some quite sharp frosts on the way in the next couple of days. UKV has -5C here on Saturday morning.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Whereas that shows 80 mph (possibly higher) gusts along Southern England . . . again.  Other models are showing less so it's not thankfully nailed on yet. 

PS: And is also an outlier in the 06z ensembles. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 November 2026 11:50:05
Another nice run from AIFS , shame there's not more cold air around.

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=aifs&var=2&run=6&time=294&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


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Quantum
12 November 2026 12:05:12
Signals are about as encouraging as they are possible to be. Unfortunately it feels like, unlike 2010, the air is just not as cold as it used to be.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

picturesareme
12 November 2026 14:45:32

Signals are about as encouraging as they are possible to be. Unfortunately it feels like, unlike 2010, the air is just not as cold as it used to be.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Nonsense. People were saying this back in 2010.

There is plenty of cold up north in the Arctic righ now! Northern regions of Sweden & Finland are in parts (as I type as) in the -20's. Arctic islands such as Svalbard in double negative too. And it's still technically speaking day time in these regions of the arctic. 

Ally Pally Snowman
12 November 2026 18:13:16
AIFS 12z getting close to something genuinely decent. 

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=aifs&var=2&run=12&time=360&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref 


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Brian Gaze
12 November 2026 18:36:57
A surprise snow event next week looks increasingly possible. Anywhere between the Chilterns and southern Scotland.
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Quantum
12 November 2026 19:55:06

A surprise snow event next week looks increasingly possible. Anywhere between the Chilterns and southern Scotland.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Yes I've been watching Tuesday for a few days now.

'Features coming into stuff' always has potential even if the air isn't even that cold. In recent years though these events have always been underwhelming for some reason.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

DEW
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12 November 2026 20:50:00

A surprise snow event next week looks increasingly possible. Anywhere between the Chilterns and southern Scotland.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Cold rain turning to wet snow over hills if pptn rates are high enough


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Jiries
12 November 2026 21:15:34

A surprise snow event next week looks increasingly possible. Anywhere between the Chilterns and southern Scotland.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

If  I see the snow then that 2020's we seeing snow almost every November which is unheard and last snow was 1995, 1993 and in the 1980's.  12z ensembles also looking average to below with a drop again early next week some go for -5C again.

scillydave
12 November 2026 22:24:39
GFS 18z would be fun if you're a Southern snow lover.

I suspect a bit of altitude would be required but at T+105 it's enough to raise a brow.


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

The Beast from the East
13 November 2026 02:33:36

GFS 18z would be fun if you're a Southern snow lover.

I suspect a bit of altitude would be required but at T+105 it's enough to raise a brow.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

I doubt it will be there on the next run, but perhaps it may tempt Darren (Retron) out of hibernation!


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scillydave
13 November 2026 06:58:17

I doubt it will be there on the next run, but perhaps it may tempt Darren (Retron) out of hibernation!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Oh yea of little faith - it's still there...


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

westv
13 November 2026 07:48:39
Let's not forget 

If November ice supports a duck rest if winter will be slush and muck.

DEW
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13 November 2026 08:40:04
FAX - Today's HP 1018mb moving on eastwards. By Sun 15th LP 988mb with a complex mass of fronts covers Britain with a trough linking to N Norway and Arctic N-lies on its western flank. By Tue 17th this has moved on to Sweden but dangling a trough across S England behind it linking to LP 974mb mid-Atlantic (the 'arc' of LP referred to yesterday)

GFS Op - like FAX but the trough over S England has a more definite centre at 974mb. All the LP moves on to congregate over Sweden, leaving a brief ridge of HP for Britain Fri 20th. The next LP is a shallow 995mb running along the Channel Sun 22nd, and then a deeper one sitting W of Ireland 980mb Wed 25th with S/SE-lies for Britain. This drops S-wards and fills leaving a fine weekend for the whole country with HP 1030mb Sun 29th. AMENDED on the 06z as the final LP persists after moving south and takes up a position over N France with E-lies for England on the 29th; any HP stays up near Iceland

ECM - differs from the above once Sunday's LP has moved on; on Tue 17th the next LP is out on the Atlantic 960mb but swinging a well-defined trough NE-wards across Britain, not linking across to Scandinavia. As this LP fills, it drifts across Britain 995mb Fri 20th, no ridge of HP at that time. Then instead of a Channel low, a large LP sets up off W Scotland 965mb Mon 23rd with SW-lies generally. ADDED after later download - it fills and by Wed 25th presents as a flabby LP over England, deepest in the SW; by Sat 28th there's a new trough to the west with SW-lies for all.

AIFS - London, maxima 8-10C to Tue 17th with rain on Sun 15th and Tue 17th; then after a dip to 5C climbing steadily to 15C by Thu 24th with small amounts of rain from time to time. Edinburgh, 6-8C now with rain on Sun 15th (but not 17th), then a more prolonged cold spell down to 3C around Thu 19th before recovering to 12C Wed 25th, dry until Tue 24th then rain , heavy at first but persisting.

GEFS - mean temp and ens up and down for a few days, then from Thu 19th close to or a little below norm. Rain for England starts Sun 15th, very heavy 17th, persisting  but less intense through to Sun 29th;  for Scotland also on 15th but then mostly dry to Sun 22nd when some rain in many ens members. Snow row figures briefly in high teens for Birmingham and northwards on Sun 15th, otherwise low single figures except for the Highlands.


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Hippydave
13 November 2026 08:42:34
Ignoring any wintry potential, which I'm confident I can do for MBY, it'll be interesting to see if the GFS precip accumulation charts are accurate. They show a generally wet 10 days for the south of England (as well as parts of Scotland although not notably so) - would likely boost November into at worst average territory IMBY. ECM is a bit different in that the rain is more widespread but less heavy IMBY and higher in parts of the west. 

Generally though with the upcoming unsettled stuff, an average rainfall month seems reasonably likely, which amusingly keeps me on track for being either at similar levels to last year's total or a touch above. 


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GezM
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13 November 2026 09:01:19
Unusually large uncertainty at this range for next Tuesday's max temperatures across England, presumably highly dependant upon the exact track of the depression. London shows a range of 5C to 15C across GEFS and ECM on the 0z. Manchester somewhere between 4C and 12C. 
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Rob K
13 November 2026 09:16:57
UKV shows snow even here for a time on Tuesday. And the iPhone app gave me a snow symbol for Thursday last night which has now gone back to rain.

Edit: I was looking at yesterday's 15Z. The 03Z has shifted everything north, as has the 06Z GFS.

Certainly some interest in the charts (and a beautiful crisp frosty morning right now, too).


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Quantum
13 November 2026 13:46:21
For Tuesday's snow event the wind is crucial. You want as long as a track as possible over the cold dry land. So places facing NW coasts will then be best if the wind is coming from the SE while places near west coasts will be best with easterly winds. Obviously the immediate coast will probably be rain as always.

Basically since the airmass is not going to be that cold, those of us in the east don't have much chance of anything out of this unfortunately.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Rob K
13 November 2026 16:09:36
12Z GFS pushes everything even further north. Very very wet Monday night for England, could be some decent snow in Scotland.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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