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Brian Gaze
16 August 2026 15:59:28

I'm interested to see if they'll respond to your suggestion Brian. I doubt it, but I'd love to be proven wrong. They might think it's minor semantics, and they know best, so no need to edit.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

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Rob K
16 August 2026 21:57:42

I've flagged this to the BBC directly and asked them to reword it because I think it's awful reporting. 

"The statement is a blunt assessment of where we are now. In her view this challenging summer is not a new normal that people can grow used to but instead it marks the coolest, least-severe conditions that Britain can now expect – with each year likely to bring more difficult conditions until greenhouse gases reach net-zero."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr89n5n0jp2vt 

I said to them:

"this is awful reporting. Year-to-year variability means that, despite the increasing background warmth, we will experience cooler summers than the current one. The point is that the TREND is towards higher temperatures, but it is not a linear progression because of variations in weather patterns. Can you word this better?"

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Another inaccuracy in the same piece:

"As we reported earlier, temperatures of 35C are expected, after the country set its hottest day on record on Wednesday with 35.3C (96F) recorded in Gogerddan, which lies about three miles northeast of Aberystwyth."

The Welsh temperature record is 37.1C, so that's nowhere near. I think they meant to say the hottest August day on record.


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Gandalf The White
17 August 2026 00:04:49

I'm interested to see if they'll respond to your suggestion Brian. I doubt it, but I'd love to be proven wrong. They might think it's minor semantics, and they know best, so no need to edit.

And Darren, as you say after the two hot summers of the mid-seventies, many pundits were adamant that was the beginning of warm to hot summers. Likewise, this year there are pundits saying that because of the El Niño, next year's UK summer is baked in to be like this one.  Reminds me of the 'end of history' concept that many accepted until it wasn't.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Your view works fine if you assume that nothing has been fundamentally altered by the continuing rise in CO2 and CH4 levels. If, however, you think that some form of tipping point might have been reached then, as the adverts for financial products say, ‘past performance may not be a guide to future performance’.

Let’s not overlook the fact that the increase in wild fires is also a positive feedback since they pump even more CO2 into the atmosphere as well as destroying a carbon sink.


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NMA
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17 August 2026 06:45:07

Your view works fine if you assume that nothing has been fundamentally altered by the continuing rise in CO2 and CH4 levels. If, however, you think that some form of tipping point might have been reached then, as the adverts for financial products say, ‘past performance may not be a guide to future performance’.

Let’s not overlook the fact that the increase in wild fires is also a positive feedback since they pump even more CO2 into the atmosphere as well as destroying a carbon sink.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

I understand what you are saying Peter and understand those points. The point though in this case was that I was thinking when Brian made his post, is the idea that I thought it would be unlikely for the BBC to edit their story. They still might but I doubt it. Loss of face might be an issue? The hook they hung their story on was an implied (alarming?) linear increase in temperature year by year until net zero is reached.  This was the issue I think Brian and Darren picked up as misleading. Next year may well be cooler or even wetter in the summer. But not smoothly upwards linear.

I’ve come across similar misleading things before and a reluctance to change them or perhaps just ignoring them. One was a photo of an edible fig plant that wasn’t a fig and the other an article on drought-resistant and hardy plants where they used an image of a beautiful red pelargonium as an example of a hardy, drought-resistant geranium plant. In both cases, I assume the picture researcher had found what he or she thought was the right image and used them.  You can contact the author(s) but no they won’t change them. Unless it’s an image of say a particular person. It would cost more in £ than leave it and hope few people notice, and in any case no one likes to be told they are wrong, me included! 


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Brian Gaze
17 September 2026 17:41:31
"Following quality control checks, a manually operated weather station has been confirmed to have recorded 38.2°C on Thursday the 13th of August, making it the hottest day of 2026."

https://x.com/metoffice/status/2100563048981315839 


Brian Gaze

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GezM
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19 October 2026 12:00:17
First weather warning has appeared for Friday. Met Office appear to be favouring strongest winds in SW England for now .....

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2026-10-23  


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lanky
31 October 2026 12:35:07
I heard an announcement on Friday's "PM" programme on Radio 4 that the usual 17:57 Weather Forecast just before the 6.00PM National News has been scrapped. I also noticed this morning when listening to Today at -07:00 on Radio 4 that the 06:57 Weather Forecast was missed out without an explanation

The old 5 minute weather forecasts on Radio 4 have been squeezed repeatedly in recent years down to 1-2 minutes but it now looks as though the BBC in their infinite wisdom (probably to save money) have dispensed with them pretty much altogether, On PM last Friday the presenter said they will be read by the presenter "at regular points during the programme" which presumably means a very cuts down 5-10 second headline only.

Personally I think it's a bit of a shame if it does disappear like that and people without internet access are going to be less well informed in the future imo


Martin

Richmond, Surrey

NMA
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31 October 2026 13:59:24
It used to run something like this.

"It's five to six, and now over to Jim Bacon (or whoever) at the London Weather Centre".


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DEW
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31 October 2026 17:49:22
I'd really like the radio forecasts to go back to at least a guaranteed 3 minutes or, better still, the full five, so we - and the general public - could get a balanced picture of what's going on. There would be room, too, to add something about long-range prospects which are now more reliable than they used to be.

But I find the present radio forecasts of little use and I don't generally bother with them. They're just a quick gabble in the few seconds which the producer of the previous news programme decides to spare, with the weather presenter under threat of being cut off if they over-run by even a millisecond. Indeed, I wonder if the presenters themselves are sorry to say goodbye to the present system; it must be very frustrating for them with lots of information at their fingertips, to be forced to reduce it to a couple of sentences.

Perhaps we should reconcile ourselves to the idea that everyone has a TV these days. At least there's more than 30 seconds  allocated , and relevant charts can be displayed.


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Snowedin3
06 November 2026 10:47:45
Article on BBC website re SSW

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cwyvrz09mnd6o 


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