Steve
24 December 2023 17:23:25
Why are the media banging on about the hottest ever Christmas ? 

https://news.sky.com/story/warmest-christmas-eve-since-1997-as-christmas-day-set-to-be-hottest-in-years-says-met-office-13037413 

Yes, very mild, but I wouldn’t describe it as hot !

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doctormog
24 December 2023 17:31:44
And it looks like being a white one in some parts of Scotland.
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24 December 2023 17:35:10
Originally Posted by: doctormog 

And it looks like being a white one in some parts of Scotland.



Michael, enough about Cairngorm already!  😉
doctormog
24 December 2023 17:45:41
Originally Posted by: howham 

Michael, enough about Cairngorm already!  😉



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Saint Snow
24 December 2023 19:30:52
Originally Posted by: howham 

Michael, enough about Cairngorm already!  😉



😂

FWIW, it's snowing halfway up Ben Nevis 

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/webcams/ 

 

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Tim A
25 December 2023 09:57:34
Merry Christmas all.

Would be great to be staying somewhere in the Cairngorms for Christmas, e.g a cottage in Aviemore, Braemar or Tomintoul.  Looks like a decent snow event this afternoon and evening, which would be magical. 
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Gavin D
25 December 2023 12:12:41
The UK has provisionally recorded the highest daily minimum temperature on record for Christmas Day, with Exeter Airport and East Malling not falling below 12.4c
Saint Snow
31 December 2023 12:00:57
Google Photos just popped up a memory for me from this day 2020. There was about 2cm of snow on the ground.

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A snowy pic & vid from the 28th, too. And a few pics from the 2nd Jan 21 of us out walking in the snow nearby.

 

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Aneurin Bevan
08 January 2024 08:53:23
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

That was a bake down here as I've frequently noted. The flip side of the coin is that January 2013 (I think), which is rarely mentioned, brought an excellent snow event in these parts. 



A bake?

Several inches of snow in thames valley!

 
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Gandalf The White
08 January 2024 08:54:06
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

That was a bake down here as I've frequently noted. The flip side of the coin is that January 2013 (I think), which is rarely mentioned, brought an excellent snow event in these parts. 



December 2010 saw Heathrow shut due to heavy snow about a week before Xmas, which affected quite a large area - certainly up to Hertfordshire.
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Brian Gaze
08 January 2024 08:56:38
Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

A bake?

Several inches of snow in thames valley!

 



There was one significant snow event ~20/12. In comparison, Dec 2009 - Jan 2010 brought three heavy falls to this area. December 2010 looks good on paper because it was a sub zero CET, but in the south (I know it was very different in the north) it was mostly a case of sitting and twiddling thumbs waiting for something of note to happen.
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Ally Pally Snowman
08 January 2024 09:06:09
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

There was one significant snow event ~20/12. In comparison, Dec 2009 - Jan 2010 brought three heavy falls to this area. December 2010 looks good on paper because it was a sub zero CET, but in the south (I know it was very different in the north) it was mostly a case of sitting and twiddling thumbs waiting for something of note to happen.



Remember the second December 2010 cold spell very well. In North London at the time. 16th light snow shower left a covering.  17th heavy snow shower about 3cm in a hour. And 18th heavy snow during the day 12cm ish which didn't melt until 28th ish. I'd take that again any day. The first cold spell which was about 30th Nov to 4th December was a disappointment.  But we still got 2 or 3cm on the ground for a few days. 
 
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Rob K
08 January 2024 09:14:08
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

There was one significant snow event ~20/12. In comparison, Dec 2009 - Jan 2010 brought three heavy falls to this area. December 2010 looks good on paper because it was a sub zero CET, but in the south (I know it was very different in the north) it was mostly a case of sitting and twiddling thumbs waiting for something of note to happen.


Yes agreed. Dec 2010 was cold and dry for the most part. I remember the canal being frozen thick enough to walk on but as I recall we didn’t even have one decent snowfall here. Certainly nothing I deemed worthy of photographing anyway and I usually record any snow event pretty thoroughly. The only pics I have with snow on the ground are from the Winchester Christmas market with a slight dusting on the 19th and then some from the higher bits of Exmoor I drove past on Christmas Day. 

Then a Boxing Day walk in the Test Valley which still had a dusting of snow in the shady spots. 

Dec 2010 was cold but snowy it certainly wasn’t in the south. 
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Hippydave
08 January 2024 09:39:42
O/T but I must be an exception for snow in Dec 2010, we did really well from it. Seem to remember some heavy convective falls where streamers set up over my area plus some frontal snow as LPs rolled across the channel. I know that brought some rain on the coast and sleet inland but I had just enough height that it was mostly snow for me.  There was some thawing in the LPs moving through phase but overall it was a great spell here, just missing the exceptional low temps that further North had due to the injection of milder air. 

 
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Russwirral
08 January 2024 10:10:01
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

That was a bake down here as I've frequently noted. The flip side of the coin is that January 2013 (I think), which is rarely mentioned, brought an excellent snow event in these parts. 



Purely on a Snow front, 2013 was more exceptional than any of the 2009/2010 events (of which we were locally impacted but only for a few days mostly).  I used to work in London Mon-Thur and WFH in Wirral on a Friday.  Starting in early Jan with Snow we went every Friday with snowfall of some kind for about 6 or 7 weeks.  Most were dustings some put down say an inch.  But the longevity and inevitable return to snow follwing a thaw you could set your clock by.

I cant remember a more consistent cold weather pattern in all my years.  It was SSW related (infact I think that was the year it caught media attention)

The whole SSW came to a head with a massive fall of snow in North west wales around 22nd March of about 70cm which lay on the ground well int late April.  They were finding sheep trapped in snow drifts for weeks.  I remember seeing drifts well over 20ft in height in April, 3 or 4 weeks after the snowfall.

All in all you could say this event lasted January - April, albeit with transient relief periods of complete thaw.
Bertwhistle
08 January 2024 10:10:27

Dec 2010 was cold but snowy it certainly wasn’t in the south. 



We had 3 proper snow events at Twyford- 1st (>10cm) and 18th (4cm) and one n between whose date I can't pinpoint.
On Christmas Day in Chilbolton (only around 10m further inland) it was still deep and crisp and even .
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fairweather
08 January 2024 10:58:21
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

There was one significant snow event ~20/12. In comparison, Dec 2009 - Jan 2010 brought three heavy falls to this area. December 2010 looks good on paper because it was a sub zero CET, but in the south (I know it was very different in the north) it was mostly a case of sitting and twiddling thumbs waiting for something of note to happen.


Yes, in effect there were two 2010's that get confused. Winter 2009/10 (Jan) brought decent snowfall, then 2010/11 brought a cold December but the snowfall late in December thawed quickly. Generally the period 2009-2013 was pretty good for cold one way or another.
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Saint Snow
08 January 2024 12:59:59
Might be an idea to rename the thread "Winter weather memories and general winter chat" and move a dozen or so posts here from the MO thread ??

 

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Saint Snow
08 January 2024 13:37:25
Originally Posted by: Russwirral 

Purely on a Snow front, 2013 was more exceptional than any of the 2009/2010 events (of which we were locally impacted but only for a few days mostly).  I used to work in London Mon-Thur and WFH in Wirral on a Friday.  Starting in early Jan with Snow we went every Friday with snowfall of some kind for about 6 or 7 weeks.  Most were dustings some put down say an inch.  But the longevity and inevitable return to snow follwing a thaw you could set your clock by.

I cant remember a more consistent cold weather pattern in all my years.  It was SSW related (infact I think that was the year it caught media attention)

The whole SSW came to a head with a massive fall of snow in North west wales around 22nd March of about 70cm which lay on the ground well int late April.  They were finding sheep trapped in snow drifts for weeks.  I remember seeing drifts well over 20ft in height in April, 3 or 4 weeks after the snowfall.

All in all you could say this event lasted January - April, albeit with transient relief periods of complete thaw.



It was a great period. Still got some screenshots from traffic cams on the M6 & M62 from the Jan & Mar. What was weird is that Manchester - even west Manchester - largely missed out, especially in the March

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Brian Gaze
08 January 2024 13:37:52
Thread renamed.

I was recently watching a video of my late dad and I skiing just outside York (Terrington or Bulmer Bank IIRC) ~1985. I can remember it reasonably well. The snow had fallen several days earlier, but low temperatures kept it in good nick. The farmer who owned the land said he would look into buying a rope tow for future winters! Hopefully he had second thoughts, if not it could have bankrupted himself given what was coming down the line! 
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