ballamar
08 July 2022 22:35:13
Next Saturday records could tumble!
Gandalf The White
08 July 2022 22:51:10

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


There are some analysts (not on this forum as far as I am aware but on YouTube, Twitter etc.) who are constantly predicting (or informing me privately) that we will imminently turn the corner and start consistently experiencing colder than average months. Various reasons are advanced. The only thing they all have in common at the moment is they have all been consistently wrong.



I crossed swords with Joe Bast**di some years back when he was pushing his climate change denial line. There are some very stupid people out there, in many cases wilfully stupid since the data is there in the public domain.


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Chunky Pea
08 July 2022 23:24:37

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


There are some analysts (not on this forum as far as I am aware but on YouTube, Twitter etc.) who are constantly predicting (or informing me privately) that we will imminently turn the corner and start consistently experiencing colder than average months. Various reasons are advanced. The only thing they all have in common at the moment is they have all been consistently wrong.



There is actually some statistical logic to that theory. 


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ballamar
09 July 2022 05:08:27
GFS ramps it up this morning with another assault on the 39/40c around 22nd. Think level 4 might be incoming soon if backed up.
Heavy Weather 2013
09 July 2022 05:16:40

The 0z is bonkers. I mean most days right up until the end of the run are 27-30C.

We then have three peak period of heat.

1. Tuesday/Wednesday next week 33C-34C
2. Saturday/Sunday next week 37-39C
3. Thur/Friday following week 37C-39C


The UK record is now under threat and suspect we are closer now to 40C more than we have ever been. I’ll await the rest of the models with interest. The 18z was just as good btw 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
ballamar
09 July 2022 05:25:07

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The 0z is bonkers. I mean most days right up until the end of the run are 27-30C.

We then have three peak period of heat.

1. Tuesday/Wednesday next week 33C-34C
2. Saturday/Sunday next week 37-39C
3. Thur/Friday following week 37C-39C


The UK record is now under threat and suspect we are closer now to 40C more than we have ever been. I’ll await the rest of the models with interest. The 18z was just as good btw 



A little scary it’s been in the potential for a while now and isn’t disappearing. Possibly more dangerous than cold in winter for the vulnerable

Ally Pally Snowman
09 July 2022 05:30:29

GFS 0z is the hottest run I've ever seen. 1976 but with added GW.


28c, 29c, 31c, 33c, 33c, 28c, 31c, 37c  38c, 33c, 30c, 33c, 35c, 39c, 31c.


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Heavy Weather 2013
09 July 2022 05:33:51

 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


GFS 0z is the hottest run I've ever seen. 1976 but with added GW.


28c, 29c, 31c, 33c, 33c, 28c, 31c, 37c  38c, 33c, 30c, 33c, 35c, 39c, 31c.



Your 38C is actually a 39C it was one grid point, I think I almost missed it to. Sorry for pulling hairs lol


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Ally Pally Snowman
09 July 2022 05:36:11

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


 


Your 38C is actually a 39C it was one grid point, I think I almost missed it to. Sorry for pulling hairs lol



Yes I find those high res charts hard to read on my phone . A genuinely historic run this morning..


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Heavy Weather 2013
09 July 2022 05:39:18

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Yes I find those high res charts hard to read on my phone . A genuinely historic run this morning..



Or when you half asleep lol. And agree, astonishing run. One for the historians to mull over.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
moomin75
09 July 2022 05:52:42

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


GFS 0z is the hottest run I've ever seen. 1976 but with added GW.


28c, 29c, 31c, 33c, 33c, 28c, 31c, 37c  38c, 33c, 30c, 33c, 35c, 39c, 31c.


Speechless at this run. However, for some balance, today's 0z GEM is considerably cooler.


There does appear to be growing signs of something exceptional however, but still a long way off meteorologically speaking. We are still looking at days 8-10 and then day 14 for the extremes.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Brian Gaze
09 July 2022 05:57:26

Static image of the GFS 00z showing 39C on Sun 17th July below.


Link to dynamic chart:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gfs.aspx?run=00&charthour=207&chartname=uk2mtmpsohd&chartregion=uks&charttag=Max%20temp


 



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Brian Gaze
09 July 2022 05:58:41

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Speechless at this run. However, for some balance, today's 0z GEM is considerably cooler.


There does appear to be growing signs of something exceptional however, but still a long way off meteorologically speaking. We are still looking at days 8-10 and then day 14 for the extremes.



That's wrong. GFS 00z shows extreme heat on day 9.


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Heavy Weather 2013
09 July 2022 06:01:07

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


That's wrong. GFS 00z shows extreme heat on day 9.



Agreed, the same period it’s been showing for days now. 


A few years ago 34C on Tuesday next week would have been considered extreme, in fact I’d say it is.


Ive also looked at GEM. The op is ok, but only out to Tuesday. The first ensembles I looked at was better.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
moomin75
09 July 2022 06:06:02

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


That's wrong. GFS 00z shows extreme heat on day 9.


Sorry Brian, that's what I've said. Days 8-10 and Day 14 for extremes.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Brian Gaze
09 July 2022 06:08:20

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Sorry Brian, that's what I've said. Days 8-10 and Day 14 for extremes.




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moomin75
09 July 2022 06:13:53

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 



Whatever happens, these are truly historic charts. Absolutely amazing.


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100m ASL
Ally Pally Snowman
09 July 2022 06:16:43

UKMO looks like the record plume is incoming at 168h.


 


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Jiries
09 July 2022 06:20:03

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Static image of the GFS 00z showing 39C on Sun 17th July below.


Link to dynamic chart:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gfs.aspx?run=00&charthour=207&chartname=uk2mtmpsohd&chartregion=uks&charttag=Max%20temp


 




Look like is nailed on for 17th as a hottest day of the year so far on that run, if any further hotter ones still in FI. it been showing for that date and many will be off and school holiday starting.  Impressive to see central Cornwall which have small landmass and most temperate at 35C.  Any one know what the hottest record for Cornwall county?  Add 2-2C on top of that might see mid to high 30's for the Midlands and possible 39-40C further south.

Taylor1740
09 July 2022 06:21:38
Looks like it's now about a 50% chance that we see 39/40c next weekend.
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