tallyho_83
27 August 2021 12:17:46

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

There is a chance that Ida could make landfall in the NOLA area at Cat 3 strength. Given past events that scenario may ring alarm bells.


Yes I saw that and it has also shifted eastwards and if this eastwards trend continues it wouldn't surprise me if New Orleans could be in the firing line?


Also they usually under predict the strength of storms and as time goes by the do strengthen esp the longer they have over warmer waters, so I wouldn't rule out a cat 4 storm upon landfall!?


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doctormog
27 August 2021 16:13:01

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


Yes I saw that and it has also shifted eastwards and if this eastwards trend continues it wouldn't surprise me if New Orleans could be in the firing line?


Also they usually under predict the strength of storms and as time goes by the do strengthen esp the longer they have over warmer waters, so I wouldn't rule out a cat 4 storm upon landfall!?



It’s hard to tell at this stage and I wouldn’t rule out Ida reaching Cat 4 at or before landfall. The high rainfall totals and significant storm surge may well cause problems. I would however assume significant improvements and investment had been made since 2005’s events.


Edit: Ida has now reached hurricane status.


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27 August 2021 20:28:23


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tallyho_83
27 August 2021 20:54:22

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


It’s hard to tell at this stage and I wouldn’t rule out Ida reaching Cat 4 at or before landfall. The high rainfall totals and significant storm surge may well cause problems. I would however assume significant improvements and investment had been made since 2005’s events.


Edit: Ida has now reached hurricane status.



Speaking of which.... Ida is now expected to reach a cat 4 hurricane when yesterday it was only expected to reach a cat 3 storm and given that I said earlier I wouldn't rule out cat 4 - now I wouldn't rule out a cat 5 storm esp reading the post from BFTE. As things stand Morgan City and Baton Rouge could take a direct hit - if this shifts 100 miles eastwards then New Orlean's could take a direct hit. One thing to say is that all of Texas is now clear of his storm.



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28 August 2021 06:22:20

Ida is going to be unpleasantly memorable


140mph winds on landfall, 11' storm surge, up to 16" rain. Lots of analysis here.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/08/intensifying-hurricane-ida-expected-to-strike-louisiana-sunday-as-a-major-hurricane/


Morgan City and Baton Rouge in line for the direct hit, but New Orleans not getting off lightly either - and there is always the possibility of a shift in direction.


 


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tallyho_83
28 August 2021 11:16:26

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Ida is going to be unpleasantly memorable


140mph winds on landfall, 11' storm surge, up to 16" rain. Lots of analysis here.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/08/intensifying-hurricane-ida-expected-to-strike-louisiana-sunday-as-a-major-hurricane/


Morgan City and Baton Rouge in line for the direct hit, but New Orleans not getting off lightly either - and there is always the possibility of a shift in direction.


 



 


Yes - the storm is shifting eastwards each update looking at latest NOA satellite NHC. If it shifts a further 50 miles east then New Orlean's would be in the firing line making it a deja vu of 2005's Katrina 


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The Beast from the East
28 August 2021 14:07:02

On the other side of the continent, Nora has found its way into the Bay of California. I dont know how often that happens


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28 August 2021 19:46:21

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


It’s hard to tell at this stage and I wouldn’t rule out Ida reaching Cat 4 at or before landfall. The high rainfall totals and significant storm surge may well cause problems. I would however assume significant improvements and investment had been made since 2005’s events.


Edit: Ida has now reached hurricane status.



And it's basically happening 16 years to the day of Katrina in 2005. It could well be a case of history repeating itself if the levees in New Orleans break again.


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28 August 2021 20:29:08

 


Ida is forecast to hit the industrial corridor between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, site of three key ports, petrochemical sites, and a nuclear power plant.


https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/08/intensifying-hurricane-ida-a-significant-threat-to-key-infrastructure/ 


has full details including a link to Covid


Louisiana is currently suffering from one of the worst COVID-19 outbreaks in the country, so not ordering a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans will reduce much COVID-19 spread that otherwise could have occurred. This may have factored into the decision not to order a mandatory evacuation.


 


 


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doctormog
29 August 2021 06:53:23

Ida is now at Cat 4 as it closes in on the Louisiana coast (with estimated 130mph sustained winds). Central pressure is now 949hPa.

Lots of heavy rain and a large storm surge look very likely.


Edit: The latest update has central pressure at 946mb and sustained wind speeds at an estimated 140mph. The update also suggests sustained windspeed will be around 145mph just before landfall (significantly stronger than Katrina was). I can only hope the flood infrastructure investment since 2005 has been well used.


 


Due to the likely impacts of Ida in a heavily populated area is it worth a dedicated thread?


The Beast from the East
29 August 2021 09:29:34

Yet another storm with rapid intensification that perhaps we didnt see in past decades. The last NHC advisory suggests a few more hours of strengthening possible so Cat 5 cannot be ruled out


Ida has undergone some dramatic inner-core structural changes since 
the previous advisory. The eye between 25,000-45,000 ft has become
circular with a diameter of about 15 nmi now, and at least two
eyewall mesocyclones have been noted rotating cyclonically around
the eyewall in both radar and high-resolution 1-minute GOES-16
satellite imagery. The result has been rapid strengthening of at
least 30 kt during the past 6 hours, along with a pressure drop of
more than 15 mb during that same time, with a 6-mb decrease having
occurred in the 1-hr period between about 0500-0600 UTC based on Air
Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft eye dropsonde data. The
aircraft also measured a maximum 700-mb flight-level wind speed of
133 kt in the northeastern quadrant, along with a peak SFMR surface
wind speed of 116 kt. Furthermore, NWS Doppler radar velocity data
from Slidell, Louisiana, has recently been measuring velocities of
120-130 kt between 25,000-30,000 ft, which is quite rare, and
indicates that Ida is a vertically deep and intense hurricane. Ida
was initialized with 115 kt at 0600 UTC, but the 0900 UTC advisory
intensity has been increased to 120 kt based on the 133-kt
flight-level wind and the improved structure in both radar data and
satellite imagery since the 0609 UTC time of that aircraft
observation.

The initial motion remains northwestward, or 315/13 kt. There is no
significant change to the previous forecast track or synoptic
reasoning. The subtropical ridge oriented east-west along 30N-31N
across the southeastern U.S. is forecast to remain intact through
the forecast period with only minor shifts in the location and
strength of the ridge. As a result, Ida should continue to move
northwestward toward the southeastern Louisiana coast today,
followed by a gradual turn toward the north tonight after landfall.
On Monday, the hurricane is expected to move northeastward across
the Tennessee Valley when Ida moves north of the ridge axis.
Impacts and hazards will arrive well before the eye of the hurricane
makes landfall. Tropical-storm-force winds are likely to begin later
this morning. Therefore, all preparations to protect life and
property must be rushed to completion. The new track forecast is
basically just an update of the previous advisory track.

Ida will remain over waters with high oceanic heat content for
another 6 hours or so. Thereafter, the heat content will drop
sharply to less than half of the current value of more than 100
units. However, some additional strengthening is expected until
landfall occurs.

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29 August 2021 10:41:10

Waiting for Hurricane Ida is available live on Facebook also youtube. 






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The Beast from the East
29 August 2021 10:59:25

This could be catastrophic. Wind field is wider than Laura a year ago


 




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29 August 2021 11:06:31


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The Beast from the East
29 August 2021 11:13:57

Now 150 mph and pressure 935mb


 


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doctormog
29 August 2021 11:18:27

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Now 150 mph and pressure 935mb


 



Whatever way you look at it this is one intense system. There is little doubt that a storm surge up to 16 feet will be devastating for some unprotected areas. Hopefully the upgraded defences will withstand what will be a significant test.


tallyho_83
29 August 2021 13:46:50
Latest on Ida - is that it's now a strong cat 4 with max sustained winds of 150mph and could even reach cat 5 temporarily before landfall, what is cat 5? 156mph? - just shows how the warmer waters can easily intesify the storm within a short period of time!?
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doctormog
29 August 2021 13:50:56

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Latest on Ida - is that it's now a strong cat 4 with max sustained winds of 150mph and could even reach cat 5 temporarily before landfall, what is cat 5? 156mph? - just shows how the warmer waters can easily intesify the storm within a short period of time!?


157mph is the threshold for Cat 5 and it is possible Ida may get to that level. Even if it doesn’t it is still an incredibly power storm.


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29 August 2021 15:30:45

There are some storm chasers livestreaming, mad lads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4JfVLSQvY8


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