Saint Snow
16 March 2021 15:10:18

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


The big reduction to the cold air incursion later this week has notably raised the estimated CET trajectory since a few days ago.


Back then I was looking at around 5.7°C to 20th March.


Now I'm seeing around 6.1°C to that point.


I wasn't doing the estimates behind the scenes on Friday 12th, but the runs back then were colder still for later this week, so I imagine the CET projection would have been another few tenths lower.



Anyway, signs are, next week will be generally on the mild side. A bit of uncertainty over whether it then turns colder for the final few days of the month, but I'm now seeing a 'reasonable range' for the final CET as somewhere between the low 6s and mid-7s.


This is with a slight factoring in of typical GFS bias. Something which really stung me early this month when it was atypically far too high with the temperatures; usually it's a bit too low. Such is the risk that comes with bias adjustments! For which reason, I only adjust by half the analysed bias - which means the spread around my 'best estimate' (currently mid-6s) is larger on the higher side than the lower.



 


Thanks for your continuing analysis, James 


Somewhere around 7c would be a massive bonus, and totally unexpected from what we were looking at at 10 days ago.



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Stormchaser
16 March 2021 15:51:56

Appreciated, Martin - you're most welcome! 


All a natural consequence of my strangely intense relationship with weather statistics .


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16 March 2021 16:33:02

Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread 

We could all end up too high if the charts don't start cracking out the mild soon...

Or too low at the current rate!  I think the lack of frosty nights has kept it up. 


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Global Warming
16 March 2021 20:52:31

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Appreciated, Martin - you're most welcome! 


All a natural consequence of my strangely intense relationship with weather statistics .



Please do keep the analysis coming James. It is very welcome and appreciated.

Global Warming
16 March 2021 21:03:31

Apart from tomorrow and Saturday when the CET maybe just below average, it looks like a relatively warm second half of March. 


Currently expecting the CET to reach 6.93C by the 30th. So a finish close to 7C looks likely at the moment. Plenty of time for that to change though.

Saint Snow
16 March 2021 23:15:03

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


 


Please do keep the analysis coming James. It is very welcome and appreciated.



 


As is yours, GW 



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ARTzeman
17 March 2021 10:47:27

Met Office Hadley         5.8c        Anomaly        0.6c provisional to 16th


Metcheck                      5.14c      Anomaly         -1.01c


Netweather                   5.77c      Anomaly         -0.54c


Peasedown St John      5.8c        Anomaly         -1.1c.






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17 March 2021 18:38:52

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


As is yours, GW 


  Agreed!  Both GW and SC make this thread what it is!  


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Stormchaser
17 March 2021 20:31:13

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Please do keep the analysis coming James. It is very welcome and appreciated.



Thanks GW , same goes to you for not just the analysis but the whole competition! 



Cheers to Caz too. It's an honour to help keep this buzzing (at least, relatively speaking...!). My work has taken me into far less friendly and generally chilled out environments from time to time. It's real nice to pop back into the TWO forum world whenever I can .


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ARTzeman
18 March 2021 12:14:51

Met Office Hadley        No Update


Metcheck                5.0c          Anomaly         -0.96c


Netweather             5.81c        Anomaly         -0.5c


Peasedown St John  5.7c        Anomaly         -1.2c.  






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Spring Sun Winter Dread
18 March 2021 18:35:08
I reckon its going to be another boringly average finish for March like last year.
Just looked at the forecast on MetO for IMBY and its saying 9-11c daily for the next week , feels like we've been stuck more or less in that zone for weeks now
ARTzeman
19 March 2021 11:05:06

Mt Office Hadley      NO UPDATE


Metcheck                5.32c        Anomaly        -0.84c


Netweather             5.89c        Anomaly        -0.42c


Peasedown St John   5.67c     Anomaly      -1.27c.  






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Gusty
20 March 2021 10:20:07

6.2c is my monthly mean here at Folkestone so far. (LTA monthly mean is 6.7c).


Compared with 4.5 in Jan and 5.8 in February its a slow start to Spring.


Its looking like the CET will end up somewhere in the range 6.5 to 6.9.


I'm surprised how quickly the CET recovered in week 2. I could do with a large monthly downward correction to get close to my 6.2c prediction. 


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ARTzeman
20 March 2021 11:25:19

Met Office Hadley      No Update


Metcheck             5.39c      Anomaly     -0.77c


Netweather          5.99c      Anomaly     -0.32c


Peasedown St John   5.7c    Anomaly   -1.2c. 






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20 March 2021 11:34:12

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


Met Office Hadley      No Update


Metcheck             5.39c      Anomaly     -0.77c


Netweather          5.99c      Anomaly     -0.32c


Peasedown St John   5.7c    Anomaly   -1.2c. 



What's with the lack of updates from Hadley over the past few days, is there some kind of an issue there?


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ARTzeman
20 March 2021 12:00:44

They do it at least 3 times a year. No stranger to no updates. Most times cause not give anything other than they may be updating systems. 






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Gusty
20 March 2021 12:02:45

Originally Posted by: Col 


 What's with the lack of updates from Hadley over the past few days, is there some kind of an issue there?



They're not doing it any more.


It means that the competition is now finished for the year with positions frozen.


I expect GW will be doing an update and announcing the winner for 2021 in due course ! 


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20 March 2021 14:50:12

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


They're not doing it any more.


It means that the competition is now finished for the year with positions frozen.


I expect GW will be doing an update and announcing the winner for 2021 in due course ! 



It's a sad day indeed that they would abandon the world's longest running temperature series, going all the way back to 1659 but I'm sure they must have their reasons.


Now let me just check who is currently on top of the CET competition table....


 


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Jerry P
20 March 2021 15:36:42

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


They do it at least 3 times a year. No stranger to no updates. Most times cause not give anything other than they may be updating systems. 



I always get the impression that when the person who updates the CET pages goes on holiday or is off sick, then rather than someone else doing the job it is left until he/she returns 🙄


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ARTzeman
20 March 2021 22:49:51

If one of the weather stations within the CET stations does not send in their details then the CET is not published. 






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