... oh I thought i was in the MO thread...

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Christ, some of the posters in the MOD thread both here and on the other side, could put that happiest bloke on earth on anti-depressants.

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Proper thaw today with drizzle on and off; all frozen snow remnants apart from snow piles and remains of snowmen has gone. 

Missed out on so much snow, it's been really frustrating - sometimes because we're in the wrong place, sometimes because we were the wrong side of marginal. 

Excitement about a possible repeat is hard to muster. 

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Ah, that's much better, now the weather has turned milder.  I much prefer mild rain rather than cold rain.

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Soaking drizzle and 4C here this morning.

Rain here for at least the next 24hrs and diminishing risk of cold weather.

This countries weather is about the worst you can get.

If it can go wrong, it ALWAYS does.

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Soaking drizzle and 4C here this morning.

Rain and 2C here, although there was some snow on the cameras on the M2 near Chatham earlier (might as well be in Antarctica for the good it does though).

Flooding is the biggest concern tomorrow yet nothing from the MetO: the models are showing 20-30mm of rain overnight into tomorrow (yup, at 4C - same as ever) and as the ground is saturated it's going to be miserable driving to and from work. We had less rain last week and the flooding was the worst I've ever seen here... plenty of flooded cars too after I went through, apparently, and at least 2 crashes.

 

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0.6c here and raining. Lol gota love old England 

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0.6c here and raining. Lol gota love old England 

Its not that bad, try 11.1c yesterday and drizzle and 9.1c today and drizzle. Add on that we’re the least likely to see snow in the UK and you’ve got to laugh or cry.

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I would just like to moan about the Met Office long range forecasts.

Every time there’s a cold spell on the models it goes like this:

1) Stellar charts over several days suggest impending snowmageddon, Thames freezing over, polar bear sightings etc. Daily Express starts getting excited, having worked out how to access T360 snow depth charts on Wetterzentrale.

2) Met updates continue to suggest average picture with perhaps the chance of a flake or two at the top of a Cairngorm.

3) Ensembles start to firm up on a cold spell. This is it, it’s on the way, beast from the east incoming.

4) Met Office long-ranger finally updated to mention the risk of snow. “What took those idiots in Exeter so long? This has been nailed on for days!”

5) Next set of GFS ensembles start to wobble, but that’s OK - just a blip, plenty of cold runs still there.

6) Following GFS run and ensemble suite collapses to follow the milder cluster. ECM follows suit.

7) Rinse. Repeat.


We love winter in the UK...

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I would just like to moan about the Met Office long range forecasts.

Every time there’s a cold spell on the models it goes like this:

1) Stellar charts over several days suggest impending snowmageddon, Thames freezing over, polar bear sightings etc. Daily Express starts getting excited, having worked out how to access T360 snow depth charts on Wetterzentrale.

2) Met updates continue to suggest average picture with perhaps the chance of a flake or two at the top of a Cairngorm.

3) Ensembles start to firm up on a cold spell. This is it, it’s on the way, beast from the east incoming.

4) Met Office long-ranger finally updated to mention the risk of snow. “What took those idiots in Exeter so long? This has been nailed on for days!”

5) Next set of GFS ensembles start to wobble, but that’s OK - just a blip, plenty of cold runs still there.

6) Following GFS run and ensemble suite collapses to follow the milder cluster. ECM follows suit.

7) Rinse. Repeat.


We love winter in the UK...

LOL Rob, I was thinking exactly the same thing, how often has this happened, wierd.

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I would just like to moan about the Met Office long range forecasts.

Every time there’s a cold spell on the models it goes like this:

1) Stellar charts over several days suggest impending snowmageddon, Thames freezing over, polar bear sightings etc. Daily Express starts getting excited, having worked out how to access T360 snow depth charts on Wetterzentrale.

2) Met updates continue to suggest average picture with perhaps the chance of a flake or two at the top of a Cairngorm.

3) Ensembles start to firm up on a cold spell. This is it, it’s on the way, beast from the east incoming.

4) Met Office long-ranger finally updated to mention the risk of snow. “What took those idiots in Exeter so long? This has been nailed on for days!”

5) Next set of GFS ensembles start to wobble, but that’s OK - just a blip, plenty of cold runs still there.

6) Following GFS run and ensemble suite collapses to follow the milder cluster. ECM follows suit.

7) Rinse. Repeat.


We love winter in the UK...

Best post of the winter. Haha. Spot on.

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Fully expecting Met Office updates to begin including phrases like "increased risk of trench foot" and "high risk of widespread, severe marsh and bog."

 

Its not that bad, try 11.1c yesterday and drizzle and 9.1c today and drizzle. Add on that we’re the least likely to see snow in the UK and you’ve got to laugh or cry.

 

Very tough for snow fans in Cornwall. At least it's a beautiful part of the world.

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Fully expecting Met Office updates to begin including phrases like "increased risk of trench foot" and "high risk of widespread, severe marsh and bog."

"Associated Bartlett High hazards"

 

LOL Rob, I was thinking exactly the same thing, how often has this happened, wierd.

Yep, spot on. What's even funnier is we fall for it every time - well at least some do!

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I have never known it so wet in Essex since I have lived here. I had a porous resin drive laid in October. Since the day they started digging in the clay it has rained. 350 mm by Christmas !! God knows what the clay slurry beneath it all must be doing. Still looks ok but not sure what will happen when it all dries out in the summer. Last winter was better than this. At least you knew it would be mild and was dry under foot after Christmas. This winter is totally lacking in sun and frosts. We had just three frosts in the last  spell. Same today, cold , wet, miserable.

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I would just like to moan about the Met Office long range forecasts.

Every time there’s a cold spell on the models it goes like this:

1) Stellar charts over several days suggest impending snowmageddon, Thames freezing over, polar bear sightings etc. Daily Express starts getting excited, having worked out how to access T360 snow depth charts on Wetterzentrale.

2) Met updates continue to suggest average picture with perhaps the chance of a flake or two at the top of a Cairngorm.

3) Ensembles start to firm up on a cold spell. This is it, it’s on the way, beast from the east incoming.

4) Met Office long-ranger finally updated to mention the risk of snow. “What took those idiots in Exeter so long? This has been nailed on for days!”

5) Next set of GFS ensembles start to wobble, but that’s OK - just a blip, plenty of cold runs still there.

6) Following GFS run and ensemble suite collapses to follow the milder cluster. ECM follows suit.

7) Rinse. Repeat.


We love winter in the UK...

 

They do tend to have the curse of the 'Mockers' about them, don't they?

 

But I think we all have little things that we think kyboshes a potential cold spell. I used to (c2000-2005 - I blame Tom Presutti and Garry Sarre) fall for TWO excitement all the time and would gleefully proclaim to friends & family how a proper winter spell was on the way with snow and everythin'. Then the models would shy away and they'd be asking where the cold and snow was. It became a bit of a joke so I stopped saying anything. Now, annoyingly, I'll have been monitoring an approaching cold spell and the Mrs will tell me over tea that Doris the cleaner at work (or some other random colleague) has told her it's going to turn cold and snowy; I'll be non-committal, and then it'll turn cold and snowy and Mrs S will believe Doris the cleaner at work (or whichever random colleague) has way more meteorological knowledge than me (which may actually be a correct assumption, when I come to think of it)

I will 'fess up to having bought, sometime in spring 2014, two large buckets of snowmelt granules that were being sold off. I had memories of some great cold and snowy spells between Dec 09 and Mar 13 fresh in my mild. We've not had anything like those snow depths since, and I'm beginning to think "cursed it".

Also, after the snowfall on the 28th (a whopping 2-3cm!), I had to dig deep into the pit of chaos that is my garage in order to find my snow shovel to clear the path/driveway (not that it needed it, but it was an excuse to be out in the snow, and it creates the all-important snow pile to outlast the ordinary lying snow). Knowing there were frequent repeat episodes due over the coming days (according to all output), I left the snow shovel handy. We never got more than a dusting after that, and mostly the PPN fell as sleet or drizzle.

So I'm asking myself, "did I 'mockers' it?"

 

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A few Christmases ago, maybe about 2013, my in-laws gave us a proper wooden Austrian-made sledge. Of course, after decent snowfalls in 2008, 2009 and 2010, and even a bit in March 2013, we then had naff all and the sledge stayed in the loft gathering dust. I was sure they had jinxed it. We have managed to get some use out of it, though, in 2018 (BTFE) and 2019 (sweetspot Hampshire snowfall)

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I would just like to moan about the Met Office long range forecasts.

Every time there’s a cold spell on the models it goes like this:

1) Stellar charts over several days suggest impending snowmageddon, Thames freezing over, polar bear sightings etc. Daily Express starts getting excited, having worked out how to access T360 snow depth charts on Wetterzentrale.

2) Met updates continue to suggest average picture with perhaps the chance of a flake or two at the top of a Cairngorm.

3) Ensembles start to firm up on a cold spell. This is it, it’s on the way, beast from the east incoming.

4) Met Office long-ranger finally updated to mention the risk of snow. “What took those idiots in Exeter so long? This has been nailed on for days!”

5) Next set of GFS ensembles start to wobble, but that’s OK - just a blip, plenty of cold runs still there.

6) Following GFS run and ensemble suite collapses to follow the milder cluster. ECM follows suit.

7) Rinse. Repeat.


We love winter in the UK...

Couldn't agree more.

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A few Christmases ago, maybe about 2013, my in-laws gave us a proper wooden Austrian-made sledge. Of course, after decent snowfalls in 2008, 2009 and 2010, and even a bit in March 2013, we then had naff all and the sledge stayed in the loft gathering dust. I was sure they had jinxed it. We have managed to get some use out of it, though, in 2018 (BTFE) and 2019 (sweetspot Hampshire snowfall)

 

See, now you've broken the 'Mockers Curse of the Proper Wooden Austrian-Made Sledge'.

I'm wondering now if I should empty the snow melt granules down the grid or something, and bury the snow shovel back beneath a pile of junk/'potentially useful items that could come in handy, perhaps, maybe, one day' (delete as appropriate) in the garage

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