KevBrads1
15 January 2021 07:55:14

Winter index for my area is up to 76 as we are halfway through the meteorological winter.


I reckon it has been the wintriest first half of winter since 2010-11 and that winter was more or less over by this stage. 


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Whether Idle
15 January 2021 20:54:31

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Winter index for my area is up to 76 as we are halfway through the meteorological winter.


I reckon it has been the wintriest first half of winter since 2010-11 and that winter was more or less over by this stage. 



A nation of contrasts.  Here there have been two air frosts and 5 minutes of sleet.  Good times!


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Gusty
15 January 2021 21:33:48

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 A nation of contrasts.  Here there have been two air frosts and 5 minutes of sleet.  Good times!



This winter is a struggle. I saw some daffodils in bloom today and they instantly lifted my spirits. I hope Spring arrives early this year because this wretched carrot dangling, exhausting FI winter combined with incessant cold rain, dullness and lockdown is like living hell at the moment.


 


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johncs2016
16 January 2021 00:41:01

Earlier on yesterday evening, we had an official air frost at all three of my local stations but now just a few hours later, it's now chucking it down with rain yet again with the temperature also having jumped back up to above freezing.


I am in no way going to dispute the fact that we have done quite well during this month in particular as far as the number of air frosts is concerned.


However, it just seems that no matter how cold it actually gets here, we just CANNOT get it to be cold enough for any any precipitation to fall as snow here in the north of Edinburgh, whenever that precipitation arrives which makes me wonder wonder what on Earth it os going to take to actually get some snow in this part of the world.


That is particularly frustrating when I'm reading reports from even a number of southerners who are getting some snow in their neck of the woods.


Furthermore, the relatively high number of air frosts which we have getting during this month means that I should be able to wake up to more bright, cold and frosty mornings than has actually been the case and so, that continues to be something which doesn't happen all that often in this neck of the woods (I am aware that it has been a different story in those higher parts of the south of Edinburgh where lying snow has lasted for longer, but this is the north of Edinburgh which I am talking about here).


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
tallyho_83
16 January 2021 02:28:06

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Earlier on yesterday evening, we had an official air frost at all three of my local stations but now just a few hours later, it's now chucking it down with rain yet again with the temperature also having jumped back up to above freezing.


I am in no way going to dispute the fact that we have done quite well during this month in particular as far as the number of air frosts is concerned.


However, it just seems that no matter how cold it actually gets here, we just CANNOT get it to be cold enough for any any precipitation to fall as snow here in the north of Edinburgh, whenever that precipitation arrives which makes me wonder wonder what on Earth it os going to take to actually get some snow in this part of the world.


That is particularly frustrating when I'm reading reports from even a number of southerners who are getting some snow in their neck of the woods.


Furthermore, the relatively high number of air frosts which we have getting during this month means that I should be able to wake up to more bright, cold and frosty mornings than has actually been the case and so, that continues to be something which doesn't happen all that often in this neck of the woods (I am aware that it has been a different story in those higher parts of the south of Edinburgh where lying snow has lasted for longer, but this is the north of Edinburgh which I am talking about here).


 



Nothing here for the SW - We were down below +4c by 1800pm but temperature shot up to +8c - now back down to 7.5c and steady with very heavy rain.  Looks like this winter could be remembered for the most amount of cold rain falling ever, Weather Idol as well as Gusty - aka Steve, idj20, Jiries even RobK along with many in Central southern and South Eastern parts have reported cold rain for days now and last week apparently cold rain was reported on several days tomorrow (today/Saturday) more cold rain! It has been dire so far - esp for the south, tomorrow is a prime example of another weather system which would produce yet more cold rain for many southern area's including the SE and I expect this to continue sadly.


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johncs2016
16 January 2021 04:55:32

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


Nothing here for the SW - We were down below +4c by 1800pm but temperature shot up to +8c - now back down to 7.5c and steady with very heavy rain.  Looks like this winter could be remembered for the most amount of cold rain falling ever, Weather Idol as well as Gusty - aka Steve, idj20, Jiries even RobK along with many in Central southern and South Eastern parts have reported cold rain for days now and last week apparently cold rain was reported on several days tomorrow (today/Saturday) more cold rain! It has been dire so far - esp for the south, tomorrow is a prime example of another weather system which would produce yet more cold rain for many southern area's including the SE and I expect this to continue sadly.



To me, I wouldn't expect you to get snow as the SW of England should be one of the mildest parts of the UK on average (although I am aware that some higher parts of the moors can get snow, even down there).


However, members such as Caz has been reporting snow in their area in recent days along with other members from places such as Leeds. I have nothing against these members getting snow per say.


However these members all live in locations which are still a lot further south than where I am. Why therefore, does it have to be so different up here in places such as the north of Edinburgh and even up in Aberdeen.


Given that these locations are so much further north than where those other members are who are getting snow, it should be colder here on average as a result which therefore, should make it more likely to snow here as a result.


It therefore, just doesn't seem right that this isn't actually happening.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
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16 January 2021 05:19:39

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


 


To me, I wouldn't expect you to get snow as the SW of England should be one of the mildest parts of the UK on average (although I am aware that some higher parts of the moors can get snow, even down there).


However, members such as Caz has been reporting snow in their area in recent days along with other members from places such as Leeds. I have nothing against these members getting snow per say.


However these members all live in locations which are still a lot further south than where I am. Why therefore, does it have to be so different up here in places such as the north of Edinburgh and even up in Aberdeen.


Given that these locations are so much further north than where those other members are who are getting snow, it should be colder here on average as a result which therefore, should make it more likely to snow here as a result.


It therefore, just doesn't seem right that this isn't actually happening.



Leeds and where Caz lives are well inland, Edinburgh & Aberdeen are on the coast, it may be just as simple as that. And the North Leeds suburbs really are quite high up, I know because that is where I grew up. And you know yourself that the higher south of Edinburgh can get snow whearas the more coastal north does not.


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Heavy Weather 2013
16 January 2021 06:57:40

I had low expectations of seeing proper snow this morning, but felt encouraged by the yellow warning.

In the end I managed a few wet snowflakes, sleet and now rain (any wintreness was limited to about 10 minutes at that). This of course was forecast. But when you hear reports of Snow in Kingston, Bayswater and Croydon it’s beyond infuriating.

Another abysmal attempt at snow. Pathetic


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Zubzero
16 January 2021 06:59:17

What a load off....


Not even a 99 flake. Oh well back to waiting a few years for the next snow chance.

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16 January 2021 07:08:56
My least favourite weather here: mild, wet and windy. Thoroughly unpleasant.
Heavy Weather 2013
16 January 2021 08:04:41
This morning was frankly one of the most embarrassing attempts at a snow event I have ever witnessed.
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Brian Gaze
16 January 2021 08:08:14
Snow melting faster than the daylight is arriving. Complete debacle and exactly what I expected. The embarrassment is complete by radio reports saying "snow is causing disruption on the A41 near King's Langley and Berkhamsted". What a joke.
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KevBrads1
16 January 2021 08:41:10

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


This winter is a struggle. I saw some daffodils in bloom today and they instantly lifted my spirits. 



Snowdrops are late here  compared to recent times


Week last Friday


 



This Friday



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Jiries
16 January 2021 08:48:22

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

This morning was frankly one of the most embarrassing attempts at a snow event I have ever witnessed.


It show how bad now UK cannot get a proper snow storm like Madrid does, this set-up are the same like in Madrid but they got a foot of it without any problems from the warmer sea around it and nothing to do with height as it not very high and being further south can't get snow at that levels but they did anyway.   


Cyprus will get colder and temperatures will drop to 10C from near unusually warm 23C recently just not yet gone below 10C annually for few days as the -12C uppers are just stop short of south coast of Turkey, if this move 50miles south Nicosia would wake up with similar Madrid snow event and 0 to 2C max.  Last happened in 4th Feb 1950 max of 2 and 1 and half foot of snow i Nicosia with uppers of -10C for 2 days.


Temps wise there far more interesting from 23C to 10C while here so boring around 3-7C since xmas. 

moomin75
16 January 2021 08:51:41

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

This morning was frankly one of the most embarrassing attempts at a snow event I have ever witnessed.


Need I say more? I've said time and time again that this winter can be largely written off. There was NEVER likely to be a snow event today and God only knows why anyone fell for it. Moving forwards, the models are looking absolutely abysmal from a winter perspective away from the extreme North. I am ready to call winter is over, not that its really begun here.


Another horrendous write off. 


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johncs2016
16 January 2021 08:51:45

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


Leeds and where Caz lives are well inland, Edinburgh & Aberdeen are on the coast, it may be just as simple as that. And the North Leeds suburbs really are quite high up, I know because that is where I grew up. And you know yourself that the higher south of Edinburgh can get snow whearas the more coastal north does not.



According to Jerry though, even the south of Edinburgh missed out on the last big snow event which parts of England got, even as far south as Cambridgeshire which I do, class as a part of the south of England.


However, it gets worse because the temperature here has now shot up to just over 5°C (not even the least bit cold for this time of the year) and at 7am this morning, the wind at Edinburgh Gogarbank was gusting up to 33.6mph from the SSW although the wind appears to have died down a bit for now.


This is no different now, from what we have been used to during other recent winters which means that for all that it is worth, we would as well just be getting double figures temperatures now.


Yet, the English biased mainstream media will no doubt go on as though the entire country was plastered with snow due to parts of England getting it, and are unlikely to take any consideration of the fact that there are places such as here in Edinburgh which haven't had that snow.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Ally Pally Snowman
16 January 2021 08:51:57

Probably the most pathetic Amber warning in the history of weather. Amateur hour once again from the mighty met office. 


 


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Brian Gaze
16 January 2021 08:55:04

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Probably the most pathetic Amber warning in the history of weather. Amateur hour once again from the mighty met office. 


 



To be fair I think it was a yellow? However, even that seemed ridiculous to me. 


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16 January 2021 08:57:09

I don't understand why an Amber warning was issued for something that even if it had produced more snowfall would have been transient anyway early on a Saturday morning.


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