Gavin D
30 November 2019 09:13:36

Former BBC weather forecaster John Hammond has issued his winter forecast



  • Big fluctuations December

  • Drier and colder trend January and February


Full forecast is here for subscribers. Subscription is free. https://weathertrending.com/2019/11/30/winter-2019-20-mixed-trending-drier-colder/

Gavin D
30 November 2019 10:42:31

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Often unsettled with swings in temperature


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Saturday 30 November – Sunday 8 December


Cold initially, then turning milder and wetter


This weekend will be often dry and bright for most but rather cold with overnight frosts and local fog. However, on Saturday, south-west England will stay cloudier and windy with rain over parts of Cornwall and Devon. Sunday will see a scattering of showers for eastern fringes of England and the far-north of Scotland but otherwise a lot of dry weather. On Monday and Tuesday, an area of high pressure will be in control of the weather over England, Wales and Northern Ireland, bringing a lot of dry and settled weather. It will remain rather cold though with night frosts and a risk of fog, which could linger into the daytime in places. However, over Scotland it will be cloudier at times and breezier with patchy rain.



Through the middle to latter part of next week, the high pressure area should retreat southwards, allowing milder westerly flows to develop. Temperatures are expected to recover near or a little above average across much of the UK as the week progresses. Northern and north-western parts of the UK will gradually become wetter and windier with some prolonged and rather heavy rain likely over western Scotland. The southern half of the UK should stay largely dry through the middle part of the week but some rain is likely, here, too before the end of the week. By the end of next week, chillier conditions may start to spread from the north again, perhaps bringing a return of overnight frost.


Monday 9 December – Sunday 15 December


Windy, showery and chilly


An unsettled and windy week is expected. Winds are likely to alternate between a westerly and north-westerly direction with temperatures alternating between near average and below average across the country. Many areas are likely to have showers and some lengthier outbreaks of rain spreading from the west. Rainfall amounts are favoured to be above average for most, perhaps well-above average over Wales and western England. The showers are likely to become wintry at times over hills, especially through the second half of the week, when northern areas could even see some wintry precipitation to lower levels for a time. There are likely to be some night frosts, too, under any lengthier clear spells at night.


Monday 16 December – Sunday 29 December


Wet and windy at times with variable temperatures


The second half of December is expected to be wet and windy at times with swings in temperature. Low pressure areas are likely to be often nearby, bringing wet conditions with above normal rainfall expected quite widely. The rainfall could lead to some further flood issues too. It is likely to be breezy at times, too. By the festive week, confidence in the forecast falls to low. However, there are some signs that the low pressure areas may track further south with rainfall tending to ease over the northern half of the UK. However, indications are that the north could turn somewhat chillier again, perhaps with wintry precipitation at times, most likely over Scotland. There are chances, though, that the wetter but milder conditions continue to prevail quite widely.


Further ahead


We will take another look at the prospects for December, including the Christmas period.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

tallyho_83
30 November 2019 11:10:52

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


John Hammond's latest monthly outlook



  • ‘Chopping and changing‘

  • Impactful rain and snow possible

  • Prolonged cold less likely


Full forecast as ever is here for subscribers* https://weathertrending.com/2019/11/29/john-hammonds-month-ahead-ready-bumpy-ride/



John Hammond's Winter 2019/20 forecast:


https://weathertrending.com/2019/11/30/winter-2019-20-mixed-trending-drier-colder/


Good re what he feels about a drier and more blocked end to winter. - We really need to dry here in south! Another day another wet one here - thank goodness it's forecast to be dry most of coming week.


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Gavin D
30 November 2019 15:22:24

Thursday 5 Dec - Saturday 14 Dec


A north and south split on Thursday, with the south seeing some cold, frosty and settled weather. The far north should see some blustery showers, which will be replaced by more extensive cloudier, windier weather with the northwest upslopes seeing the heaviest rain. Temperatures nearer to normal than recently. Over the weekend and into the following week, a more changeable theme is likely with spells of more organised cloud, rain and stronger winds followed by some brighter, showery and colder interludes. The heaviest rainfall is likely across the northwest with snow over northern hills, possibly to lower levels at times. Temperatures are likely to remain at or slightly below normal with occasional milder interludes mainly in the south.


Saturday 14 Dec - Saturday 28 Dec


Although confidence is low for this period, the unsettled conditions are expected to continue. There will be some rain with interludes of cold but bright weather alongside a risk of showers. There is a continued chance of further wintry showers on high ground in the north. Temperatures will likely tend towards average, or just above, for this time of year. Towards the end of 2019 there is a possibility that we will see a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
30 November 2019 15:30:17
Heard reports some parts of Scotland got down to -10c last night where as here in Devon =Exeter held up at +10c so some 20c range in temperature from north to south of UK.



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Gavin D
30 November 2019 16:44:01

Week ahead


Cold at first
Mainly dry
Wetter and windier later


Next weekend and beyond


Much more unsettled
Wetter 
Windier


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/50617155?ns_campaign=bbc_weather&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_mchannel=social

Shropshire
30 November 2019 17:01:08

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Thursday 5 Dec - Saturday 14 Dec


A north and south split on Thursday, with the south seeing some cold, frosty and settled weather. The far north should see some blustery showers, which will be replaced by more extensive cloudier, windier weather with the northwest upslopes seeing the heaviest rain. Temperatures nearer to normal than recently. Over the weekend and into the following week, a more changeable theme is likely with spells of more organised cloud, rain and stronger winds followed by some brighter, showery and colder interludes. The heaviest rainfall is likely across the northwest with snow over northern hills, possibly to lower levels at times. Temperatures are likely to remain at or slightly below normal with occasional milder interludes mainly in the south.


Saturday 14 Dec - Saturday 28 Dec


Although confidence is low for this period, the unsettled conditions are expected to continue. There will be some rain with interludes of cold but bright weather alongside a risk of showers. There is a continued chance of further wintry showers on high ground in the north. Temperatures will likely tend towards average, or just above, for this time of year. Towards the end of 2019 there is a possibility that we will see a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/



I remember that chestnut from last winter and it never happened.


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pdiddy
30 November 2019 18:25:50

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


 


I remember that chestnut from last winter and it never happened.



It's a "possibility", hence no guarantee.


 


Also a possibility that it will be a mild winter...


 


but you know all this.

Gavin D
01 December 2019 11:06:50

The Weather Outlooks winter forecast


Winter 2019 - 20: Milder and wetter than average.


 




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Forecast overview



  • The forecast headline is for a milder than average winter. There is considered to be a greater chance of above rather than below average rainfall. Away from high ground in the north, snow is most likely during the second half of January and the middle of February.


Temperature



  • Above the 30 year average taken over the three month period as a whole.


Precipitation



  • Rainfall levels are forecast to be slightly above average.


 





You can read the full forecast here - https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/forecast/uk-seasonal-weather-forecast

tallyho_83
01 December 2019 12:46:33

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The Weather Outlooks winter forecast


Winter 2019 - 20: Milder and wetter than average.


 




Quote


 


Forecast overview



  • The forecast headline is for a milder than average winter. There is considered to be a greater chance of above rather than below average rainfall. Away from high ground in the north, snow is most likely during the second half of January and the middle of February.


Temperature



  • Above the 30 year average taken over the three month period as a whole.


Precipitation



  • Rainfall levels are forecast to be slightly above average.


 





You can read the full forecast here - https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/forecast/uk-seasonal-weather-forecast



 


Yes read that - it is a depressing read! But if we transfer into an easterly QBO surely it will become more blocked and cold and i do recall the forecasts for last winter which was for a colder end esp February - including the seasonal models went for a blocked and cold 2nd half of winter and we all know how accurate the seasonal models were don't we?


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Argyle77
01 December 2019 12:47:42

Be very surprised if it's a mild winter
Looking more like a colder than average winter if you look at the sypnotics we have had over the Autumn,and two below average months in a row,CET wise

Big call going for mild ,still.

Gandalf The White
01 December 2019 12:52:49

Originally Posted by: Argyle77 


Be very surprised if it's a mild winter
Looking more like a colder than average winter if you look at the sypnotics we have had over the Autumn,and two below average months in a row,CET wise

Big call going for mild ,still.



I think Brian's opening comments are critical in interpreting what he is predicting:


 


"Forecast confidence for winter 2019/20 is low. Seasonal models and recent climatology suggest an increased chance of mild conditions. However, background signals such as low solar activity, the early spread of Siberian snow cover and the transitioning QBO suggest a greater chance of cold periods."


 


Long-range forecasting is still essentially guesswork because of the range of variables and the lack of understanding of how they interact.  


 


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tallyho_83
01 December 2019 13:30:49

Originally Posted by: Argyle77 


Be very surprised if it's a mild winter
Looking more like a colder than average winter if you look at the sypnotics we have had over the Autumn,and two below average months in a row,CET wise

Big call going for mild ,still.



Exactly and this has turned out to be the first colder than average autumn since...!??


Also if we have a SSW then things could really change remarkably! Furthermore there was a rapid increase in snow cover over Scandinavia as well as Siberia and it's Scandinavia's snow cover which is just as important as it's closer and NE winds or easterly will come from that area!? N. Scandinavia like Lapland etc have seen more snow than ever before I heard - ever since October in fact. We have also seen many southerly tracking lows this autumn.


The SST's in Pacific esp the NE and in Atlantic are not set up for a colder than average winter but then again we have to look at other factors like solar minimum and this rapid transitioning to an easterly QBO etc. Which is why I am surprised that Brian has forecast the latter stages of the winter to be milder than average and not colder and more blocked?!


Last winter we went from weak La Nina to weak El Nino and Easterly QBO to westerly towards January and February really turned out so much milder and warmer than average and I feel this could the down to the transitioning from the easterly to the westerly QBO.


There are as always) many conflicting signals but I feel this could be a colder winter and December will be a month of cold zonality with frequent NW winds and northerly along with southerly tracking low pressure systems but brief colder snaps and then in January and February chances of more prolonged cold and blocked or drier weather. 


I really don't see how all 6 months (September, October, November, December, January and February will all have above average rainfall).


Back in August many models incl Met office and ECM went for a milder than average October and November - but the models were proved wrong!! So let's wait and see?


Anyway time will tell!? Fingers crossed!


Meanwhile look forward to experiencing a seasonal few days and more than day where by it doesn't rain here in Exeter. 


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Gavin D
01 December 2019 21:00:06

Friday 6 Dec - Sunday 15 Dec


Thick cloud and hill fog will move south across much of the UK on Friday, accompanied by periods of rain. Showers will follow behind, these turning wintery in northern Scotland. A milder day and night compared to recently, with most areas frost free, away from the far north. Over the weekend and into the following week, a more changeable theme is likely with spells of more organised cloud, rain and stronger winds followed by some brighter, showery and colder interludes. The heaviest rainfall is likely across the northwest with snow over northern hills, possibly to lower levels at times. Temperatures are likely to remain at or slightly below normal with occasional milder interludes, mainly in the south.


Sunday 15 Dec - Sunday 29 Dec


Although confidence is low for this period, the unsettled conditions are expected to continue. There will be some rain with interludes of cold but bright weather alongside a risk of showers. There is a continued chance of further wintry showers on high ground in the north. Temperatures will likely tend towards average, or just above, for this time of year. Towards the end of 2019 there is a possibility that we will see a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
02 December 2019 12:26:40

The met office have issued a level 2 alert for severe cold weather between Tuesday & Thursday. The alert covers East of England and south east England




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Current alert level: Level 2 - Alert and Readiness


Issued at: 09:10 on Mon 2 Dec 2019


There is a 60% probability of severe cold weather between 0600 on Tuesday 03 Dec and 0900 on Thursday 05 Dec in parts of England. This weather could increase the health risks to vulnerable patients and disrupt the delivery of services. Please refer to the national Cold Weather Plan and your Trust's emergency plan for appropriate preventive action.


End of the alert Level 2 (back to Level 1) for NE England, NW England, York & Humber, West Midlands and East Midlands. Some less cold conditions will then move across the whole country on Thursday afternoon, with rain and strong winds spreading eastwards overnight.


An update will be issued when the alert level changes in any region. Alerts are issued once a day by 0900 if required and are not subject to amendment in between standard issue times. Note that the details of the forecast weather are valid at the time of issue but may change over the period that an alert remains in force. These details will not be updated here unless the alert level also changes, the latest forecast details can be obtained at the following link: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/#?tab=map 


 





https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/cold-weather-alert/?tab=coldWeatherAlert&season=normal#?tab=coldWeatherAlert


 

Gavin D
02 December 2019 15:04:09

Saturday 7 Dec - Monday 16 Dec


On Saturday morning there may be a return to widespread frost for many parts of the UK, though it will likely turn much milder by the end of the day. There may be a few showers in the northeast, which should clear quickly to leave a mostly dry day everywhere. Overnight, strong winds and rain should approach from the west. Into the next week, the more changeable theme is likely to persist with spells of more organised cloud, rain and stronger winds followed by some brighter, showery and colder interludes. The heaviest rainfall is likely across the northwest with snow over northern hills, possibly to lower levels at times. Temperatures are likely to remain at or slightly below normal with occasional milder interludes, mainly in the south.


Monday 16 Dec - Monday 30 Dec


Although confidence is low for this period, the unsettled conditions are expected to continue. There will be some rain with interludes of cold but bright weather alongside a risk of showers. There is a continued chance of further wintry showers on high ground in the north. Temperatures will likely tend towards average, or just above, for this time of year. Towards the end of 2019, there is a possibility that we will see a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
02 December 2019 16:45:48

Net weather winter forecast


Winter Forecast Overview



  • December and January expected to be wetter and milder than average with short-lived cold-snaps

  • Blocked weather likely in February but limited signals for it to be North of the British Isles suggest a drier but milder than average month is the most likely outcome. Albeit with low confidence.

  • Overall a wetter and slightly milder than average winter expected.



https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/uk/long-range/seasonal

tallyho_83
03 December 2019 01:16:44

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Net weather winter forecast


Winter Forecast Overview



  • December and January expected to be wetter and milder than average with short-lived cold-snaps

  • Blocked weather likely in February but limited signals for it to be North of the British Isles suggest a drier but milder than average month is the most likely outcome. Albeit with low confidence.

  • Overall a wetter and slightly milder than average winter expected.



https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/uk/long-range/seasonal



 


John Hammond agrees that there could well be a blocked Feb as well like Net Weather but Net Weather seems vague! I agree with John as do many of us that December will be unsettled and I am in agreement with his forecast for there to be huge temperature swings. - At least it's eventful! ha



I realise Brian /two has forecast a milder than average winter as did Met Office but then again Gavsweathervids went for a slightly colder than average winter. So it's game on!!?


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tallyho_83
03 December 2019 01:24:24
Interesting YT video by John Coomes: Re winter weather, as he starts off by talking about the PV, which is interesting given that we could see a SW instead of a SSW. So this should weaken the PV a little! here with video below:



Fingers crossed that this transitioning from westerly to Easterly QBO speeds up.

We know what happened last 2018/19 winter when it went from easterly to westerly we ended up with a record breaking exceptionally warm February as well as a positive NAO and AO. So let's hope this transition from westerly to easterly will see the reverse - i.e a cold February with - NAO and AO.
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ballamar
03 December 2019 08:05:34
First snow showing for Election Day on the app! Would be amusing
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