Downpour
03 December 2019 11:50:33

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


I think the BBC said a few weeks back that the last time a General Election was held in December was way back in 1923. I have no idea what that December was like for weather though!



Was apparently a mild day in 23. So, this could be the first time in British history it has snowed on polling day. 


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Downpour
03 December 2019 11:52:29

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


 I can assure you there is nothing I want more than the prospect of snow in the approach to Xmas. Mild and stormy conditions are very good too. What I don't want is 1030mB pushing up from the south. 



Not even a port and mince pie for Great Uncle Barty in Chez Gaze?


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Gandalf The White
03 December 2019 11:59:58

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


WOW to 06z GFS.



Nice to imagine (provided you're stocked up and going nowhere) but best to regard the likelihood as about the same as a 100-seat Conservative majority...


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idj20
03 December 2019 12:00:41

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Was apparently a mild day in 23. So, this could be the first time in British history it has snowed on polling day. 




If it does come off, it'd probably be remembered as the day when Hell freezes over.  


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Gandalf The White
03 December 2019 12:01:24

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Not even a port and mince pie for Great Uncle Barty in Chez Gaze?



I hear Uncle Barty is auditioning for the part of Scrooge, so hopefully he'll be elsewhere in the run up to the festive season.


wink


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Gandalf The White
03 December 2019 12:02:39

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Was apparently a mild day in 23. So, this could be the first time in British history it has snowed on polling day. 



850s around -4c so I'd be surprised if it was mild.


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Arcus
03 December 2019 12:08:53

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Was apparently a mild day in 23. So, this could be the first time in British history it has snowed on polling day. 



Met Office reports on February 28th 1974 General Election mentioned it being close to freezing for large parts of Wales, Northern England and Scotland, with storm force winds in some parts of Scotland and more than an inch of rain in some parts of England. Given the set-up, I'd say snow falling somewhere in the UK was a given that day:



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Phil G
03 December 2019 12:12:56
Just say, just say with nine days out the charts go into upgrade run after run so we are left with a nationwide blizzard on 12th December. It's that bad, that only 5-10% of the country can actually get out and vote.

What would happen? Does the result of this mega low turnout count, because if it does we would never hear the end of that either!
ballamar
03 December 2019 12:17:35

Originally Posted by: Phil G 

Just say, just say with nine days out the charts go into upgrade run after run so we are left with a nationwide blizzard on 12th December. It's that bad, that only 5-10% of the country can actually get out and vote.

What would happen? Does the result of this mega low turnout count, because if it does we would never hear the end of that either!


 


all counts no reserve days or anything! Why it was a bad idea although the thought is older voters are more likely to get out and vote

Gandalf The White
03 December 2019 12:37:28

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Met Office reports on February 28th 1974 General Election mentioned it being close to freezing for large parts of Wales, Northern England and Scotland, with storm force winds in some parts of Scotland and more than an inch of rain in some parts of England. Given the set-up, I'd say snow falling somewhere in the UK was a given that day:




A quick Google and I discovered that Brian has a page on the weather on election days in the past.


for 1974 it says "28th February 1974:Cold and generally cloudy with rain/sleet/snow pushing into western areas"


 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/twocontent.aspx?type=tystat&id=928


 


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Downpour
03 December 2019 13:14:56

Originally Posted by: Phil G 

Just say, just say with nine days out the charts go into upgrade run after run so we are left with a nationwide blizzard on 12th December. It's that bad, that only 5-10% of the country can actually get out and vote.

What would happen? Does the result of this mega low turnout count, because if it does we would never hear the end of that either!


 


They postponed a general election fairly recently due to foot and mouth – 2001? Presumably that would be on the cards if the forecast really is 'bad'* for 12 Dec?


 


* Using BBC lingo, apologies 


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White Meadows
03 December 2019 13:29:41

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


I hear Uncle Barry is auditioning for the part of Scrooge, so hopefully he'll be elsewhere in the run up to the festive season.


wink


Leave my Uncle Barry out of this!

roadrunnerajn
03 December 2019 13:35:40
Looking at the 06z between the 11th and 13th. I would say it looks like being raw and cold with sleet and snow over the hills above 200m with wintery showers through the Cheshire gap. As that low moves away there could be back edge snow but it wouldn’t last long.
Down here it would be hail showers turning wetter as the depression moves up from France before more of a wintery mix as it passes east.
Better than mild muck though!
Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic.
Russwirral
03 December 2019 13:51:22
As much as we can always say - this was an outlier run, a one off, FI etc...

Look at the pattern and tell me that its not a million miles away from what weve been experiencing for the past 2 months or so.

Theres a good chance that it wont come off, but I think given how we are entering the winter, a scenario of this size and impact wouldnt be out of the question in my eye.

For that reason I see it less as a one off and almost expected to see in the charts. Fingers crossed this sets a pattern for the winter thereafter
UncleAlbert
03 December 2019 15:04:16

Actually we do not have to check back on winter general elections to find snow falling somewhere in the country on polling day.  Snow did in fact fall in many areas on May 3 1979 at the dawn of MT's reign.

Gandalf The White
03 December 2019 15:35:55

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Leave my Uncle Barry out of this!



How do you switch off autocorrect????


You type ‘Barty’ and your iPad thinks it knows better.


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03 December 2019 15:50:57

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 

As much as we can always say - this was an outlier run, a one off, FI etc...

Look at the pattern and tell me that its not a million miles away from what we've been experiencing for the past 2 months or so.


It's funny you should say that. I've been thinking the same thing and, these charts we're seeing are not without support. This afternoon's ICON has moved towards the GFS operational as well.


Just imagine the rainmaker we had earlier in autumn that gave inland England a months worth of rain... as snow 


 


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squish
03 December 2019 15:51:29
Interesting week (weatherise) next week:

ICON 12z

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ICOOPEU12_156_1.png 

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Russwirral
03 December 2019 16:03:55

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


 


It's funny you should say that. I've been thinking the same thing and, these charts we're seeing are not without support. This afternoon's ICON has moved towards the GFS operational as well.


Just imagine the rainmaker we had earlier in autumn that gave inland England a months worth of rain... as snow 


 



 


The way I see it, should that pattern continue, it should in theory track more south as the Jet does so.  Alot of the rainfall we had through autumn was only a couple of degrees above being snow.  i'm thinking as the winter cold grows and the Jet head south, we might be lucky.


 


Hence my thoughts on this 


Saint Snow
03 December 2019 16:12:29

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

your iPad thinks it knows better.


 


That's a typically arrogant Apple trait


 




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