Maunder Minimum
14 November 2010 22:36:41

NickR wrote:


Maunder Minimum wrote:


The Beast from the East wrote:


Gavin P wrote:


YouGov/Sunday Times


Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead -2




Statistical tie of course. 40/40/10 seems to be solid for YouGov for the time being. ICM always seem to give higher ratings for the Lib Dems.


(BTW, shouldn't you say Lab Lead +2)?


 


 



It is only absolute and craven ignorance which is giving Labour its current poll position. Labour currently has no policies for dealing with our fiscal catastrophe:


Johnson rejects Miliband on tax


 



Oh, give over MM! Dave and his crew had no policies for years when they were well up in the polls. I didn't see such posts from you then. It's called the luxury of being in opposition.  



The problem is that fiscal consolidation is inevitable, necessary and desirable. Many people don't appreciate just what a mess we are in and the hard choices which are completely necessary to deal with it. It is like being at war, but without the fighting.


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20 November 2010 22:34:58

Couple of new polls tonight;


ComRes/IoS


Con 37% Lab 38% Lib-Dem 13% Lab Lead 1%


YouGov/Sunday Times


Con 40% Lab 38% Lib-Dem 11% Con Lead 2%


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The Beast from the East
20 November 2010 23:29:32

Polls seem very stable for the past 2 months. I don't think much will change until we see the impact of the spending cuts


 


 


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Maunder Minimum
21 November 2010 06:47:49

The Beast from the East wrote:


Polls seem very stable for the past 2 months. I don't think much will change until we see the impact of the spending cuts


 


 



Polls are completely meaningless at the moment - everybody is waiting to see how things fall out.


Interestibng thought, since this is a weather site - if we get a very harsh winter, I wonder how that will impact everything.


Supposing we run out of salt to grit the roads, as nearly happened last winter? Supposing there are power cuts and disruption? Supposing there is an economic downturn because of the impact of the weather?


People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.


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21 November 2010 09:58:22

During last winters severe spell in early January the Lib-Dems seemed to get a boost with the phone pollsters as more public sector workers were at home. This time I would imagine that boost would go to Labour.


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Saint Snow
21 November 2010 21:54:09

Maunder Minimum wrote:

People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.



I'm glad you belatedly recognise this [*cough* a global banking crisis caused the recession *cough*]



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Maunder Minimum
22 November 2010 08:09:18

Saint Snow wrote:


Maunder Minimum wrote:

People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.



I'm glad you belatedly recognise this [*cough* a global banking crisis caused the recession *cough*]



Back to this one eh? The global banking crisis did indeed trigger the recession - however, this country was in a very bad place to deal with it when it came, because of the spendthrift policies of the last government.


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The Beast from the East
22 November 2010 23:43:39

Labour 2 points ahead in latest ECM Guardian Poll.


 


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Maunder Minimum
23 November 2010 08:23:37

The Beast from the East wrote:


Labour 2 points ahead in latest ECM Guardian Poll.


 



Just froth. Did you watch Newsnight last night? Found it quite interesting - in particular that many Labour MPs are feeling uneasy about Ed's leadership - they obviously know that their current position is built on sand.


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The Beast from the East
23 November 2010 10:54:47

Maunder Minimum wrote:

 


Just froth. Did you watch Newsnight last night? Found it quite interesting - in particular that many Labour MPs are feeling uneasy about Ed's leadership - they obviously know that their current position is built on sand.



Yes. funny when Johnson said"Red" instead of Ed.


You're right that Labour needs a clear message to sell. At the moment they are just benefitting from being the opposition party - however that worked for Dave at the last election (just about) and the US Republicans!


Here's the details of the ICM poll


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/22/labour-pulls-ahead-guardian-icm-poll


 


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07 December 2010 00:14:56

Todays News International/YouGov poll shows;


Con 42% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead 3%


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07 December 2010 23:02:51

To be fair, YouGob is consistently giving the Conservatives the biggest vote shares. Most other pollsters have Labour in the lead and the Tories in the mid or high's 30's. But yes, I'm quite surprised Labour doesn't have more of a lead to be honest.


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brogdale
12 December 2010 22:55:30

I'd say Naughtie had it just about right first time...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-bbc-political-bias




"In an interview with the Observer, Hunt said it was clear to most people that more BBC employees would vote Labour or Lib Dem than Conservative. He also said that the corporation had been out of touch with public opinion in the recent past and shown leftwing bias on issues such as Europe, immigration and Northern Ireland."


 


.........like the rest of us in the UK.


Someone needs to tell him that his poxy party only managed 36% of the popular vote, and that set against a lame-duck, busted, imploding NL in the depths of the worst recession since......


Whereas 52% of the electorate voted Labour/LibDem.


What a plum....

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14 December 2010 00:01:22

YouGov/News International


Con 41% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 1%


Govt approval -14


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14 December 2010 22:54:03

MORI


Con 38% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 11% Lab Lead 1%


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The Beast from the East
19 December 2010 20:01:43
Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.
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20 December 2010 23:04:30

ICM/Guardian


Con 37% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 11% Lab Lead 2%


They also have a question about AV which is interesting. Apparently the YES campaign have 6% lead with 44% saying they would support AV against 38% saying they wouldn't.


We can expect to see many more of these kinds of referendum polls early next year.


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haggishunter
20 December 2010 23:34:43

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.


Think you may have drawn the wrong conclusion, I'd imagine theres a fair size of the Tory faithful who don't think Dave is a good leader!

Super Cell
22 December 2010 18:43:39

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.


Well as has often been said he wasn't actually elected as prime minister, so it would be something of a surprise to find his ratings higher. There was no honeymoon period economically either, and unlike Blair and Thatcher he didn't come in on the back of huge public support.


The surprise to me is that Milliband has made very little electorally of being the new kid on the block given that he can sit back and snipe with impunity.


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23 December 2010 22:53:55

Final poll of 2010:


YouGov/News International


Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 2%


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