DPower
16 January 2019 15:18:02
Hoping to see a greater propensity for hlb's and a -AO this afternoon although not sure what the gfs will churn out. I am optimistic however of perhaps a repeat performance from the ecm 12z run of yesterday.
I have noticed the charts showing the down welling -u winds have this pinned back to the 28th now and not as negative as previously shown. They were originally progged for the 22nd. Just like the AO and NAO I suppose they are related to model runs.
Maunder Minimum
16 January 2019 15:29:54

Originally Posted by: DPower 

Hoping to see a greater propensity for hlb's and a -AO this afternoon although not sure what the gfs will churn out. I am optimistic however of perhaps a repeat performance from the ecm 12z run of yesterday.
I have noticed the charts showing the down welling -u winds have this pinned back to the 28th now and not as negative as previously shown. They were originally progged for the 22nd. Just like the AO and NAO I suppose they are related to model runs.


ICON has come out and it is


All is flat. Write off for cold spell 24 Jan time frame.


New world order coming.
fairweather
16 January 2019 15:33:47

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


I think you're looking at them backwards. The 0Z was the top chart, the 6Z was the bottom one. The means are as follows, from Jan 22 to Jan 27, midnight each day (to nearest whole degree). 


 


0Z ... 6Z


-3 .... -4


-3 .... -3


-2 .... -3


-2 .... -2


-1 .... -2


-1 .... -4



Nope. The entire post of yours that I quoted didn't mention 0z


"GEFS now out for the 06Z and have trended a fair bit colder in the mid term for London, Jan 22-27, with the colder cluster predominating now. Control run is fairly frigid."


Yes they are better than the 0z. I thought you meant the 06z was trending lower for the period quoted not compared to the 0z. 


-3


-5


-4


-2


-3


-4


Trending milder then a colder one at the end I would say, but in the scope of variability I would say remaining between -1 and -5C


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Rob K
16 January 2019 15:50:56

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


ICON has come out and it is


All is flat. Write off for cold spell 24 Jan time frame.



If ICON was showing cold would you consider it meant a cold spell was nailed on?  


 


ARPEGE giving a decent blob of snow for me still. And only 108hrs out. (There's also some light snow for me at 66hrs)



 


GFS also gradually ramping up Friday night snow for the south, run by run. Worth keeping an eye on...



 


Chilterns could see a dusting in two days' time if GFS has this right.


 


 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
16 January 2019 15:59:37

Stunning UKMO 144h snowy slider the rollercoaster continues 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Notty
16 January 2019 16:08:14

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Stunning UKMO 144h snowy slider the rollercoaster continues 



Latest GFS seems to be trending the slider on a more southerly track to my eyes


 


Notty
Pontypool, 132m asl
Ally Pally Snowman
16 January 2019 16:11:30

Originally Posted by: Notty 


 


Latest GFS seems to be trending the slider on a more southerly track to my eyes


 



 


Yes looks similar to the UKMO.  Good start to the 12s.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Notty
16 January 2019 16:12:22
http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2019011612/UW144-21.GIF?16-16 

Latest GFS Op at same time - http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2019011612/gfs-0-144.png?12


Not much point on looking any further down the line ... but I think I will anyway JFF :)


Notty
Pontypool, 132m asl
Maunder Minimum
16 January 2019 16:16:00

Well, no idea why ICON has gone skiing off piste - fortunately UKMO and GFS at same timeframe are OK.


New world order coming.
Arcus
16 January 2019 16:18:43
This t+100 to T+144 period still being chewed over like an old bone by the models - until that storm trajectory is resolved the chaos will continue IMO.

The Met's update would indicate they are more confident if the UKMO/GFS 12z kind of evolution though, so we'll just let the 'coaster keep on going...
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Rob K
16 January 2019 16:19:13

Virtually the whole country with at least a dusting this time next week, according to the latest GFS.
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2019011612/gfs-16-162.png?12


 


And an easterly incoming by T168. Swings and roundabouts continue.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Heavy Weather 2013
16 January 2019 16:20:10

GFS currently on track as the best of the winter so far. 


This at 171hrs is brilliant


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_171_1.png


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Rob K
16 January 2019 16:29:33

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


GFS currently on track as the best of the winter so far. 


This at 171hrs is brilliant


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_171_1.png



Not sure it will necessarily be the best of the winter, depends if the high can build to the NW rather than slowly sinking into Europe.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Ally Pally Snowman
16 January 2019 16:30:56

you can't make this **** up. Brilliant GFS 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
16 January 2019 16:36:22

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


you can't make this **** up. Brilliant GFS 



Well the signs were there on the 06Z GFS, with some pretty cold members in the 144-180 hour timeframe. I said this morning that I would expect the ensemble mean for that spell to flip to mild or cold soon. The op has gone cold on this one, so let's see if the rest of the pack follows yet.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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kmoorman
16 January 2019 16:36:56

Not bad :)



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Russwirral
16 January 2019 16:40:59
Belter of a GFS run. Probably the best so far (considering the short timescales)

Bank!
Rob K
16 January 2019 16:42:29
Some cold nights in Scotland especially under that HP cell if this were to verify.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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kmoorman
16 January 2019 16:48:56

Rinse and repeat?



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Heavy Weather 2013
16 January 2019 16:50:40

GFS 12z certainly not a run for the wrist slashers. This is why one run should never be taken in isolation. Now why do I worry the ECM will show something totally different 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
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