fullybhoy
11 January 2018 23:17:40
Charts looking good for this neck of the woods next week, hopefully here in western Scotland we see some decent accumulations 😊
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Russwirral
11 January 2018 23:18:19

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


I hope the models are indeed right Gusty and you along with the rest of the NW posse end up buried in the stuff.



 


For the wirral the wind direction looks unfavourable currently.  north of the mersey should do really well from this, away from the coast.


 


North manchester seem to be in the sweet spot currently


tallyho_83
11 January 2018 23:32:46

Interesting how the wintry showers 'precipitation' misses Exeter throughout the whole of Thursday: - They obviously knew where I live then! ha!







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11 January 2018 23:42:04

The charts really are looking good for round these parts next week. There is the opportunity for some significant snow if everything comes together. The 29th Jan 2015 gave us an incredible 4 inches of snow in just 90 minutes! If only we'd have stayed under that streamer all day!


Real chance of thundersnow here as the showers slam into the Pennines. Lets hope the Irish Sea plays ball.


 


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12 January 2018 06:22:18

I’m not sure I should get excited. The two December snow events left me at the edge by about five miles with just a covering, as they both shifted South or North of me from their forecast positions. The one next week is looking the same unless it shifts in my favour this time. Otherwise it looks like a drive to Buxton is on the cards. 


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White Meadows
12 January 2018 06:39:36
Pretty tasty 00z from GFS.
Looks like some proper HL.blocking could establish in about a weeks time.
Of course we need cross model agreement but I’m ignoring ECM for now after it’s recent performance.
Brian Gaze
12 January 2018 07:02:26

Most interesting period of the winter on the way next week IMO. Cold and showery conditions for several days could bring significant snow in places as well as some impressive cloudscapes. Also increasing signs of a double whammy with a messy picture across the North Atlantic and some colder air being pulled in from the northeast in the mid term.  


Edit: Looks less likely to be a ghost in the machine than the long fetch easterly ECM / UKM were showing last week.



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marting
12 January 2018 07:03:26
Yes, some interesting GEFS as we move forward. Even Darren may become interested as the ensembles drop and touch the -10 line and under!
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12 January 2018 07:08:04

The 0C isotherm showing up for lowland Britain next week; the Continent really cooling down; the GFS showing a convincing easterly.


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html


Here's hoping


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Joe Bloggs
12 January 2018 07:14:21

Absolutely no sign of any downgrades this morning across all of the big three. ECM continues to look more promising than it did a few days ago in terms of the 850’s.


The only difference this morning is there are now signs in FI of cold zonality morphing into a colder spell that would benefit more of the country - this is apparent on both the GFS and ECM op runs, see below. 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_216_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_216_1.png


Prior to this - snowmageddon for the NW Highlands, Snowdonia, and the Pennines continues. 



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doctormog
12 January 2018 07:16:42

Originally Posted by: DEW 


The 0C isotherm showing up for lowland Britain next week; the Continent really cooling down; the GFS showing a convincing easterly.


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html


Here's hoping



And a pretty dry picture across most of the eastern half of the U.K. http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.png 


That aside it is still a rather cool or cold picture for most next week with a risk of wintriness for parts of the W/NW and sunshine and breezy conditions elsewhere.


Sevendust
12 January 2018 07:21:07

Looking and feeling cold next week as air floods in from the Canadian Arctic.


The speed of arrival is quite important as it reduces the modification that Neil has mentioned.


Although it could be quite dry in the south and east, disturbances could increase snow chances throughout.


As if that wasn't enough, there are whiffs of an easterly out in lalaland 

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12 January 2018 07:28:35

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


And a pretty dry picture across most of the eastern half of the U.K. http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.png 


That aside it is still a rather cool or cold picture for most next week with a risk of wintriness for parts of the W/NW and sunshine and breezy conditions elsewhere.



Yes, I noticed. But I'd settle for a few (near-)ice days in the south, with a chance of snowfall as the Atlantic tried to re-assert itself. It's our only hope; cold zonality doesn't cut it down here, as pointed out ad nauseam above.


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Brian Gaze
12 January 2018 07:43:04

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Yes, I noticed. But I'd settle for a few (near-)ice days in the south, with a chance of snowfall as the Atlantic tried to re-assert itself. It's our only hope; cold zonality doesn't cut it down here, as pointed out ad nauseam above.



I'd be amazed if you get several near ice days next week. Even a long fetch northerly seems to bring daytime temps between 5C and 7C to areas south of London in January.


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12 January 2018 07:51:12

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Looking and feeling cold next week as air floods in from the Canadian Arctic.


The speed of arrival is quite important as it reduces the modification that Neil has mentioned.


Although it could be quite dry in the south and east, disturbances could increase snow chances throughout.


As if that wasn't enough, there are whiffs of an easterly out in lalaland 



lalaland is epic in the GFS 0z - pity we cannot rely on it to come out like that. Nice to see nonetheless.


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Gusty
12 January 2018 08:11:04

Amazing output, especially for us in the NW again this morning. I see Buxton on my weather app is forecasting heavy snow for 4 days starting on Tuesday. 


Longer term there even appears to be some interest for those lads down in the SE as that trough edges into southern Europe and heights rise over Scandinavia. 


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Rob K
12 January 2018 08:14:55
A definite cold cluster appearing on the ensembles in the long range, especially if you pick a spot somewhere a little further north (even the op run easterly has the core of the cold missing the southeast corner).

I'm starting to get a little more interested in the output for the first time since before Christmas!
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Joe Bloggs
12 January 2018 08:25:53

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Amazing output, especially for us in the NW again this morning. I see Buxton on my weather app is forecasting heavy snow for 4 days starting on Tuesday. 


Longer term there even appears to be some interest for those lads down in the SE as that trough edges into southern Europe and heights rise over Scandinavia. 



Yes Steve, your new home in Buxton looks likely to get a lot of snow next week! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚β„οΈπŸ˜‰



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polarwind
12 January 2018 08:47:24

Originally Posted by: snow 2004 


The charts really are looking good for round these parts next week. There is the opportunity for some significant snow if everything comes together. The 29th Jan 2015 gave us an incredible 4 inches of snow in just 90 minutes! If only we'd have stayed under that streamer all day!


Real chance of thundersnow here as the showers slam into the Pennines. Lets hope the Irish Sea plays ball.


 


I commented late last night at the end of the old thread that in early 60's, in Derby,we had 4inches in 40 minutes…. so there.


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12 January 2018 08:57:17

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Yes, I noticed. But I'd settle for a few (near-)ice days in the south, with a chance of snowfall as the Atlantic tried to re-assert itself. It's our only hope; cold zonality doesn't cut it down here, as pointed out ad nauseam above.


It's been mentioned already, but troughs are very(?) likely to be embedded in the circulation around a chunk of PV. We all might well be surprised.


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