Brian Gaze
02 February 2017 12:54:25

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Gavin D
02 February 2017 13:08:46
Met office update

UK Outlook for Tuesday 7 Feb 2017 to Thursday 16 Feb 2017:

Frontal systems will continue to push across the UK through Tuesday and Wednesday introducing gales and heavy rain at times, which will help to keep temperatures above normal. Sunshine and showers, turning wintry over high ground, will follow in behind. Through the remainder of this period the rather unsettled weather will gradually begin to ease and become confined to western parts. Frontal Atlantic systems will begin to make limited progress as high pressure over the continent begins to build. Eastern parts of the UK will probably turn drier with some spells of sunshine by day, although this will lead to a widespread frost by night and perhaps some fog patches. Temperatures will begin to take a downward trend, particularly in the east where it is likely to become rather cold.

UK Outlook for Friday 17 Feb 2017 to Friday 3 Mar 2017:

From the middle of February until the beginning of March, a blocked weather pattern seems most likely to dominate. High pressure over the continent will gradually begin to build and influence our weather. This means that colder and drier conditions through this period look most likely, particularly in the south and east. There may be the occasional spell of milder and wetter weather edging into the west at times although this looks less likely.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 
Gooner
02 February 2017 13:12:37

Blocked it is then


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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schmee
02 February 2017 13:18:57

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Blocked it is then


⛆🌨🌨🌨⛄wondering if each day will bring either an extreme chance of chill or a suprise flurry 


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roger63
02 February 2017 15:29:55

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Blocked it is then



Blocked but boring dare I say. Meto emphasising HP building over the continent (rather than Scandinavia).However if the blocking lasts fo ra couple of weeks then hopefully there is a chance of some of the white stuff en route.

ballamar
02 February 2017 15:43:49
Compare yesterday and today update big changes perhaps they are assessing more before a more wintry update!
David M Porter
02 February 2017 16:23:02

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Met office update

UK Outlook for Tuesday 7 Feb 2017 to Thursday 16 Feb 2017:

Frontal systems will continue to push across the UK through Tuesday and Wednesday introducing gales and heavy rain at times, which will help to keep temperatures above normal. Sunshine and showers, turning wintry over high ground, will follow in behind. Through the remainder of this period the rather unsettled weather will gradually begin to ease and become confined to western parts. Frontal Atlantic systems will begin to make limited progress as high pressure over the continent begins to build. Eastern parts of the UK will probably turn drier with some spells of sunshine by day, although this will lead to a widespread frost by night and perhaps some fog patches. Temperatures will begin to take a downward trend, particularly in the east where it is likely to become rather cold.

UK Outlook for Friday 17 Feb 2017 to Friday 3 Mar 2017:

From the middle of February until the beginning of March, a blocked weather pattern seems most likely to dominate. High pressure over the continent will gradually begin to build and influence our weather. This means that colder and drier conditions through this period look most likely, particularly in the south and east. There may be the occasional spell of milder and wetter weather edging into the west at times although this looks less likely.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast


Sounds better.


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tallyho_83
02 February 2017 16:25:00

Originally Posted by: roger63 


 


Blocked but boring dare I say. Meto emphasising HP building over the continent (rather than Scandinavia).However if the blocking lasts fo ra couple of weeks then hopefully there is a chance of some of the white stuff en route.



I notice that the Met Office don't even mention any wintry precipitation like sleet, snow or even frost - just cold and dry!?


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Retron
02 February 2017 17:05:02

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


I notice that the Met Office don't even mention any wintry precipitation like sleet, snow or even frost - just cold and dry!?



That's the way it always is with them - you simply cannot predict snow that far out. Even in 2010.


https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/64157-meto-uk-further-outlook/?page=2


http://en.tutiempo.net/climate/11-2010/ws-32433.html


(Newcastle stats - wintry stuff up there started from the 24th Nov).


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Gooner
02 February 2017 18:13:18

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


That's the way it always is with them - you simply cannot predict snow that far out. Even in 2010.


https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/64157-meto-uk-further-outlook/?page=2


http://en.tutiempo.net/climate/11-2010/ws-32433.html


(Newcastle stats - wintry stuff up there started from the 24th Nov).



Indeed Darren , they will always wait until it's right on the door step


 


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Whether Idle
02 February 2017 18:19:06

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


*************Whether Idle's Winter forecast************


Issued 21st December 2016.  Valid until 23rd March 2017.


Headline - Varied.  Mild start Colder Finish.  Dry in England. Stormy at times, especially so in Scotland.


Methodolgy: SSTs, Ice cover, Experience and Gut Feeling.


SSTs: https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ncoda_web/dynamic/ncoda_1440x721_global_anom.gif


The SST anomaly shows that the North Atlantic GIN sea area and Arctic Ocean are much warmer than the LTA.  Between 1 and 7c warmer.  This means northerlies from the Arctic will lack their usual cold bite.


An area of ocean off Newfoundland ... anomalies on the left and SST actual on the right>


                                                                              


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The water to the north is much colder, and the water to the south much warmer than usual - the thermal gradient is extreme and likely to produce storm after storm this winter which will ride east towards Europe on the jet.  The water is 20c different temperature in the space of 70 miles.  Astonishing.


Ice:


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/


Shows the current 11.8million km, about 1.3million km 2 less than the LTA for 20 December, and the least sea Ice recorded at this time (its been the same all autumn) since measurements began. We are about 3 weeks "behind "the curve.  This will blunt the depth of any cold that arrives from the North.


  Gut feeling indicates to me the Ice and SST situation will be influential early on (20 Dec-20 Jan).


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Dates provided are for guidance only 😉.....


Broad scenario -21 Dec - 20 January - generally zonal.  Mild the cool then mild as pM air alternates with tM air.  Windier and wetter towards NW.  More settled and drier towards SE.  Mid latitude high will at times deflect storm systems to the N and W of the UK, at other times the storms will affect Scotland.  Excellent month for generation of wind power in N and W of UK.  Possibly exceptionally dry in SE. Lowland snow fleeting and non-disruptive, some frost and fog in the south.


21 January - 24 January  brief easterly type cold, frosty with wintry showers on prone coasts.   Storminess resumes  by around January 26th, possible transitional snowfall.


27 January - 5 February - Stormy, unsettled.  (This time also affecting areas further S). By turn of the month, finally pressure drops over southern and eastern Europe.  Cooler, unsettled, wetter for south.  Windy, wintry showers on northern Hills. Wind between WSW and NW.


7 February - 14 February - Drier and colder period.  Frost.  Isolated snow flurries. Easterly winds with Anticyclonic conditions also.


15-23 February- More mobile and westerly.  Average temperature and rainfall.


23 February - March 12.  COLDEST period of the winter.  Winds swinging NW then N then NE then E with northern blocking. Snow in upland areas and possibly more generally in N and E.


March 13-23.  Anticyclonic, dry, pleasantly mild at times in S and E.


Notes :I expect the sea ice and temperature anomalies will be much closer to LTAs by late winter, resulting in our best shot at snow in the latter third of winter (ie 20 Feb - 23 March). 


The big pattern change that will allow the cooler 2nd half will be the lowering of pressure over eastern Europe as potent storm systems penetrate from west to east. NB potentially very wet and windy in NW from 21 Dec- mid February.


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Whether Idle 21st December 2016.


 


 


 



Absolutely delighted with the way my LR winter forecast is shaping up. 


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Gusty
02 February 2017 19:42:25

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 Absolutely delighted with the way my LR winter forecast is shaping up. 



That is incredible Phil. You've even called the 7-14 February as well !



 


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tallyho_83
02 February 2017 19:43:40

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Absolutely delighted with the way my LR winter forecast is shaping up. 



Yes - is the colder period that's been forecasted end of Feb into 2nd week of March the result of this SSW!?


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PFCSCOTTY
02 February 2017 20:06:43

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A sinker is still a real possibility looking at UKMO and ECM. Further downgrades could see the cold going to Greece as usual


We need good runs in the morning to restore hope



 


yes now the met office have gone cold, in my opinion always one step behind, then mild looks more likely. 

Gavin D
02 February 2017 20:45:26
Becoming colder later next week

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/38847436 
colin46
02 February 2017 22:14:44
Just watched weather forecast on the BBC news channel (21:55) becoming colder and much drier and settled from midweek next week ,but also cloudy so back to what we've had for most of Jan! Dross....
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tallyho_83
03 February 2017 01:22:21

 


+Just watching Gav's weather video's - very informative , thank you Gav - here it is ...the month ahead forecast:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PomQ8-7peWE


Just wanted to say how much I disagree with the CFS V2 temperature forecast chart for Europe - showing the whole continent above average. I believe they are a little bias to milder weather and over cook' the temperatures and Atlantic - especially given the Met Office update and GFS And SSW that could produce a scandi HP. - I recall the CFS V2 temp for January showed above average for Europe including south east, when in actual fact many countries from the Italy, Austria eastwards and from the Balkans, to Greece to Turkey were locked in the freezer for many days if not weeks. - Temperatures were significantly below average. With Athens seeing snow and even Istanbul.


What are your thoughts about the CFS V2 TEMP forecast!?


Watch this video and take note of 03:30 into the video!?


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03 February 2017 08:48:22
so, parts of the media have taken to fake-naming depressions now - great. "Alternative Dorris"
KevBrads1
03 February 2017 11:24:06

I think the storm naming has gone tits up, IMO. The 11th January low wasn't named and I don't know why and now the tabloid media have taken on themselves to name the system coming through tonight as  Doris.


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Rob K
03 February 2017 11:45:02

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


I think the storm naming has gone tits up, IMO. The 11th January low wasn't named and I don't know why and now the tabloid media have taken on themselves to name the system coming through tonight as  Doris.



It's a shambles of an idea anyway. We're not hurricane country.


The criterion is supposed to be that an amber or red warning is issued, but then it's a joint venture with Met Eireann so who knows who's in charge?


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