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03 February 2017 16:44:12

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 



The way this winter's MO has shaped up so far, it's right every alternate day.  So you'll only be embarrassed half the time Gusty!  


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Whether Idle
04 February 2017 07:31:36

The CET is headed downwards for some time now.


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ARTzeman
04 February 2017 11:07:17

Met Office Hadley            8.6c.          Anomaly          4.3c..         ESTIMATED


Metcheck                         7.9c.          Anomaly          3.70c.


Netweather                      9.31c.        Anomaly          5.12c.


 


Peasedown St John       8.9c.         Anomaly         3.16c.    






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Hippydave
04 February 2017 12:32:10

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


The CET is headed downwards for some time now.



It needs to if I'm not going to have another rubbish month


 


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CET.
04 February 2017 13:05:50

Just a rough estimate but the CET could be high 3, low 4 by mid-month by latest model outlook.

ARTzeman
05 February 2017 11:29:20

Met Office Hadley             7.4c.           Anomaly          3.18c.       Estimated.  


Metcheck                          6.9c.           Anomaly          2.76c.


Netweather                       8.8c.           Anomaly          3.09c.


 


Peasedown St John      7.7c.         Anomaly           1.6c.






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Global Warming
05 February 2017 22:28:41

Latest charts, data and forecast for the February CET. My estimate for February is actually slightly above the Hadley provisional figure at present, largely I think due to some high maximums at Pershore College at the start of the month. I am now using Pershore College for my calculations - see post in the Jan thread for more detail.


By the middle of the month the CET is expected to be around 4.5C so still slightly above average. Of course it could be lower if we do get very cold air coming in later this week.


Will try and post the list of February predictions tomorrow evening.


Saint Snow
06 February 2017 10:35:15

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

 




 


But now it's flipped back - it just depends on how prolonged the colder set-up can last. At this stage, my hunch is that the month-end figure will be around the 2.5c to 3.0c mark, but could easily be down to your 1.1c level if we get a fortnight+ of cold and some snow on the ground in an area wider that just the E/SE fringes



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ARTzeman
06 February 2017 10:40:46

Met Office Hadley        6.76c.             Anomaly          2.41c.     ESTIMATED


Metcheck                     6.13c.             Anomaly          1.93c.


Metcheck                     7.24c.             Anomaly           3.05c.


 


Peasedown St John       6.7c.              Anomaly           -0.3c.






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Stormchaser
06 February 2017 11:37:23

Starting with the Hadley estimate and a slight upward adjustment in light of GW's figures;


From the GFS 06z I get a CET estimate of approx. 4.3*C to 10th and 3.2*C by mid-month, with the figure by 21st down to 2.5*C - the big drop from GW's estimate being partly due to a better draw of cold air later this week and more notably a better retention of a cold low-level flow early-mid next week - but I do have a suspicion that the model is seeing too much in the way of clear skies allowing for low overnight minima during the easterly... then again, the days could be just as much colder as we saw with the setup on the Friday before last.


If an organised snow event develops for the weekend then if anything it could end up colder overall. If I'm going to be some way off, I don't mind if it's a positive error at this time of year 


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Gavin P
06 February 2017 18:11:33

I tweeted UKMO to ask when they are going to update the main CET page;


https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/828658928988860416


 


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Global Warming
06 February 2017 20:17:31

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I tweeted UKMO to ask when they are going to update the mainly CET page;


https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/828658928988860416


 



Thanks Gavin. Very strange that they can't say when. I have not noticed any issues with the hourly data feeds for the CET stations. So they ought to have all the data available. Occasionally in the past there have been a few days delay in issuing the data for the odd day or two, usually following snowy conditions in winter. But they usually post up the rest of the month and then add the missing data as soon as they can. This time the whole lot is missing. Something strange is going on.

ARTzeman
07 February 2017 12:01:54

Met Office Hadley            5.98c.             Anomaly          1.56c.      ESTIMATED


Metcheck                         5.89c.             Anomaly           1.69c.


Netweather                      6.61c.             Anomaly           2.42c.


 


Peasedown St John         6.2c.              Anomaly          -0.8c.


Annual     5.5c.     Difference     -0.2c.    My Back Yard...      






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Darren S
07 February 2017 12:45:38

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


 


Thanks Gavin. Very strange that they can't say when. I have not noticed any issues with the hourly data feeds for the CET stations. So they ought to have all the data available. Occasionally in the past there have been a few days delay in issuing the data for the odd day or two, usually following snowy conditions in winter. But they usually post up the rest of the month and then add the missing data as soon as they can. This time the whole lot is missing. Something strange is going on.



I'm certain that the WUWT article referred to in the January CET thread, and the fact that legal are obviously involved, is the reason for the cessation of service on that page, and sadly I suspect it won't change for a long time. Let's hope I'm wrong.


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Gusty
07 February 2017 12:48:40

Originally Posted by: Darren S 


 


I'm certain that the WUWT article referred to in the January CET thread, and the fact that legal are obviously involved, is the reason for the cessation of service on that page, and sadly I suspect it won't change for a long time. Let's hope I'm wrong.



Indeed..where do we stand with the competition ? 


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ARTzeman
07 February 2017 13:55:48

Just looked at Post 224 by Snowshoe in the January  CET thread... Read the WUWT link and the pdf. Hope we do not have to wait for MET Office to have an internal review which could more than TWO months to sort out.


 






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lanky
07 February 2017 14:15:09

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


Just looked at Post 224 by Snowshoe in the January  CET thread... Read the WUWT link and the pdf. Hope we do not have to wait for MET Office to have an internal review which could more than TWO months to sort out.


 



Looked like the answer to a FOI request to me


Can't see why that should stop the data being published. I'm still hopeful it's just operations issues


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ARTzeman
07 February 2017 14:18:44

Have to go to Human Rights as we need to know the CET..... 






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Gavin D
08 February 2017 11:02:44
Met Office Hadley

5.97 to the 7th Anomaly +1.52 Estimated
ARTzeman
08 February 2017 11:06:31

Met Office Hadley           5.97c.         Anomaly        1.52c.    Estimated


Metcheck                        5.75c.         Anomaly        1.55c.


Netweather                     6.56c.         Anomaly        2.37c.


 


Peasedown St John    6.2c.        Anomaly         -0.8c.






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