David M Porter
09 July 2014 12:37:04

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Go Argentina!!!


 



 


A Germany v Argentina final !  I would want them both to **** each other over.  And what a shite final that was in 1990.



Indeed it was, although that said the 1986 final in Mexico between the Argies and the Germans was far better.


Just out of interest, I wonder who most England fans were supporting on the night of the 1990 final. The Germans that had knocked them out on penalties four nights earlier, or Argentina who were still led by the man that became one of the biggest villains in England's World Cup history thanks to the "Hand of God" goal four years earlier.


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sriram
09 July 2014 12:55:29
The jury is out on tonight

While all reports I saw said Germany would beat brazil in prediction

Some reckon will be Holland will be too strong and others reckon Argentina will win

if you look which team has more match winners it would be Holland for me with Argentina just relying on Messi
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Gooner
09 July 2014 13:05:10

All Euro final


 


Germany v Holland


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ARTzeman
09 July 2014 13:14:37

HUP HUP HOLLAND   Their flag with Oranje  Streamers is   Fluttering well in the breeze. ....






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David M Porter
09 July 2014 13:22:03

Originally Posted by: sriram 

I have heard that in the match stats germany had 12 shots on goal in the whole match - and scored from 7 of them Shows you their ruthless efficiency


Which was made all the easier by Brazil's unbelievable incompetence.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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SEMerc
09 July 2014 14:11:46

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Go Argentina!!!


 



 


A Germany v Argentina final !  I would want them both to **** each other over.  And what a shite final that was in 1990.


This German [censored]fest I am reading on the t'interweb these days is worrying me, come on we don't want zee Germans to win, watching the Germans win is like watching someone punch a kitten in the face. 


I could never support Germany or Scotland at international level and Argentina are very borderline also.


I want the Dutch to finally get over the line at the 4th attempt and it would be fitting to do that against zee Germans who beat them in the final in 74.



True, but watching millions of Brazilians (who thought winning the WC was a mere formality) cry made me happy last night.

David M Porter
09 July 2014 15:57:22

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They cant blame the absence of Neymar (who is overrated anyway), but perhaps the suspension of Silva in defence was significant.


Fair play to the Brazil fans for not rioting or setting fire to the stadium. I was half expecting something like that but I think deep down, even they realised this team was shite and were lucky to make it to the semis


 



As I and others mentioned earlier, they would in all likelihood have gone out of the tournament against Chile in the 2nd round had that shot the Chileans had in the last few seconds of extra-time not rebounded off the bar. They had an enormous let-off when that happened and I think they knew that.


IMO, it makes Brazil's performance last night look even worse when you think that three teams of supposedly lesser ability, namely Ghana, USA and Algeria all came much closer to getting a result against the Germans than the men in yellow ever did last night.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gooner
09 July 2014 17:09:03

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They cant blame the absence of Neymar (who is overrated anyway), but perhaps the suspension of Silva in defence was significant.


Fair play to the Brazil fans for not rioting or setting fire to the stadium. I was half expecting something like that but I think deep down, even they realised this team was shite and were lucky to make it to the semis


 



As I and others mentioned earlier, they would in all likelihood have gone out of the tournament against Chile in the 2nd round had that shot the Chileans had in the last few seconds of extra-time not rebounded off the bar. They had an enormous let-off when that happened and I think they knew that.


IMO, it makes Brazil's performance last night look even worse when you think that three teams of supposedly lesser ability, namely Ghana, USA and Algeria all came much closer to getting a result against the Germans than the men in yellow ever did last night.



Good point


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Medlock Vale Weather
09 July 2014 18:37:31

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They cant blame the absence of Neymar (who is overrated anyway), but perhaps the suspension of Silva in defence was significant.


Fair play to the Brazil fans for not rioting or setting fire to the stadium. I was half expecting something like that but I think deep down, even they realised this team was shite and were lucky to make it to the semis


 



As I and others mentioned earlier, they would in all likelihood have gone out of the tournament against Chile in the 2nd round had that shot the Chileans had in the last few seconds of extra-time not rebounded off the bar. They had an enormous let-off when that happened and I think they knew that.


IMO, it makes Brazil's performance last night look even worse when you think that three teams of supposedly lesser ability, namely Ghana, USA and Algeria all came much closer to getting a result against the Germans than the men in yellow ever did last night.



Indeed, I think the words Brazilian football team gives off an image of excellence after their success of the past, but I think that kind of scews peoples minds and people expect them to win 99% of the time purely through this. Every 4 years teams change - great aging players get replaced by average ones as we have seen. The past is the past and people cannot go off past success alone and think they will do well every tournament.


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David M Porter
09 July 2014 19:21:49

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They cant blame the absence of Neymar (who is overrated anyway), but perhaps the suspension of Silva in defence was significant.


Fair play to the Brazil fans for not rioting or setting fire to the stadium. I was half expecting something like that but I think deep down, even they realised this team was shite and were lucky to make it to the semis


 



As I and others mentioned earlier, they would in all likelihood have gone out of the tournament against Chile in the 2nd round had that shot the Chileans had in the last few seconds of extra-time not rebounded off the bar. They had an enormous let-off when that happened and I think they knew that.


IMO, it makes Brazil's performance last night look even worse when you think that three teams of supposedly lesser ability, namely Ghana, USA and Algeria all came much closer to getting a result against the Germans than the men in yellow ever did last night.



Indeed, I think the words Brazilian football team gives off an image of excellence after their success of the past, but I think that kind of scews peoples minds and people expect them to win 99% of the time purely through this. Every 4 years teams change - great aging players get replaced by average ones as we have seen. The past is the past and people cannot go off past success alone and think they will do well every tournament.



That's right. I should have mentioned earlier that Ghana did actually get a 2-2 draw with Germany in a match I had fancied the Germans to win convincingly, especially after hammering Portugal 4-0 in their opening match. The 1-0 win over the USA in the end suited both teams in terms of advancing to the last 16, but I wasn't that convinced at all by the way they played against Algeria, during the first 90 minutes anyway. They did enough to beat France without really setting the heather alight.


Regardless of who wins tonight, I think that Germany will have a much more difficult match in the final on Sunday than they had last night. The Argies themselves know all about German goalscoring power, having been gubbed 4-0 by them in the quarter-finals of the last World Cup. Both Argentina and Holland have old scores to settle with the Germans; Argentina for losing in the 1990 final and then the Q/F defeats to the Germans in 2006 and 2010, and Holland for losing the 1974 final.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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09 July 2014 19:25:01
Scores tonight? 6-2? 8-3? 5-4?
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Essan
09 July 2014 19:53:39

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 

Scores tonight? 6-2? 8-3? 5-4?



Sod's law, after last night, it is 0-0 .....


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Medlock Vale Weather
09 July 2014 20:15:30

Have to admit I have been impressed with Dirk Kuyt - always seemed to have been an underrated player for club and country but he does a terrific job in whatever position he plays in. Almost 34 years old but still plays like he did 5+ years ago.


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SEMerc
09 July 2014 20:41:35

Lavezzi and Perez have been the standouts. It's like an open door for them down the right.

SEMerc
09 July 2014 20:51:26

Argentina are playing the far smarter game by lying deep and forcing the counter attacking Dutch to try and break them down instead. I'm not sure the Dutch have the wherwithal to do that.

Gooner
09 July 2014 21:21:23

Thrilling


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SEMerc
09 July 2014 21:35:00

They should have gone straight to the penalty shootout.

Matty H
09 July 2014 21:38:03
Drab. What a contrast 💤
Ally Pally Snowman
09 July 2014 21:43:21
Dull worst game of the whole tournament. Certain penalties
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sriram
09 July 2014 21:54:55
Pants and dross today
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