Rob K
31 July 2013 17:47:57

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

However, later this month I will be in Kings Cross for a day or two every week for about 6 weeks.


Kings Cross, eh? Say no more!


 


Talking of wet models, the 12Z GFS is unmitigated cack in FI, with a near permanent depression over the UK


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3001.png


Come back summer, we haven't finished with you yet! 


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Charmhills
31 July 2013 17:55:41

The Met/o run isn't to bad if you can dodge the scattered heavy showers.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm961.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


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Gavin P
31 July 2013 18:34:03

August looking increasingly cool and unsettled on the GFS 12z anyway...


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Hungry Tiger
31 July 2013 18:44:49

Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


The Met/o run isn't to bad if you can dodge the scattered heavy showers.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm961.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif



I wonder how all that will change from that as time goes on. Strange synoptics we've had this past week or os.


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
31 July 2013 18:54:27

High ish pressure next week from ECM then a massive winter esque low plows in to the North. Not bad for the South though.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html


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Hungry Tiger
31 July 2013 18:57:31

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


High ish pressure next week from ECM then a massive winter esque low plows in to the North. Not bad for the South though.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html



I hope some of the likes of that are outsiders.


 


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Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:01:32
Hungry Tiger
31 July 2013 19:07:17

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


eastward shift losing momentum?



The 10th August isn't looking too good at all - This isn't the first chart I have seen showing some awful stuff after the first week of August.


 


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Essan
31 July 2013 19:08:53

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


eastward shift losing momentum?



The 10th August isn't looking too good at all - This isn't the first chart I have seen showing some awful stuff after the first week of August.


 


The 10th August is 10 days away.   What were the models showing for today on the 20th July and was it right? 


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Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:09:12

gm looks good for the south even later on she wiggles in


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=192&mode=0&carte=1

Hungry Tiger
31 July 2013 19:13:12

Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


eastward shift losing momentum?



The 10th August isn't looking too good at all - This isn't the first chart I have seen showing some awful stuff after the first week of August.


 


The 10th August is 10 days away.   What were the models showing for today on the 20th July and was it right? 



I know what you mean. It's worth bearing in mind though.


 


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Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:13:15

Gav that chart is the 7th August


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


eastward shift losing momentum?



The 10th August isn't looking too good at all - This isn't the first chart I have seen showing some awful stuff after the first week of August.


 


Stormchaser
31 July 2013 19:16:26

If we can see the usual corrections away from a flat jet, ideally coupled with some weakening of said feature, then a reasonable August is up for grabs. If not... well it'll be an early autumn, which I'm hoping not to see as CFS is persistently indicating that September and October will be classic autumnal months this year - although it's verification with last autumn was rather poor IIRC, despite doing well with the other seasons.




The ex-tropical feature shown by ECM does need watching, as it could give the jet a serious boost. GFS doesn't ramp it up so much but does still bring it our way while intensifying the jet enough to send a lot of energy our way. The powerful storm then shown in FI is then not as outlandish as it might seem...


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Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:21:07

Beware the clever folk yd might come knocking soon if japs have a say.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma.php?ech=168&mode=0

GIBBY
31 July 2013 19:28:49

Hi everyone. Here is the report on the 12 midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday July 31st 2013.


The General Situation. A warm front is moving North over Central Britain currently to be over Scotland tomorrow. The SW flow following on behind backs South tonight and weakens tomorrow with a fine, warm and eventually quite hot Southerly feed over the UK by tomorrow afternoon. Scotland will be cloudy with rain at times, heavy in the West. Then on Friday a cold front crosses East bringing a few showers and more importantly cooler and fresher conditions again as winds veer SW. There is a small risk of thundery showers in the far SE Friday night before all areas settle into a bright and breezy weekend with scattered showers and sunny intervals with temperatures back to near the seasonal average.


GFS then shows a benign and slack pattern over the UK early in the week before a thundery depression moves NNE to deliver a short spell of thundery rain across the South for a time. This then becomes replaced by an Atlantic feed of winds blowing in the wake of the Low's departure North midweek. This then opens the door to  a sustained period of Westerly winds, strong at times in the North as Low pressure winds up near Northern Britain with rain at times in a blustery and relatively cool breeze. Little changes then out to the end of the run with Westerly winds, average temperatures and rain or showers at times.


The GFS Ensembles indicate blustery Westerly winds through the second half of tonight's output with Low pressure over the North and rain or showers at times. Until that point the weather up to the 7th in the South remains rather drier with just scattered showers in light winds.


The Jet Stream is as this morning flowing NE across the UK in the next week before turning more West to East also over the UK in the second half of the output.


UKMO shows a showery but light West or NW airflow early next week with sunshine and showers the most likely scenario with the usual mix of some areas getting a few showers and a lot of dry weather while others see quite a few with temperatures close to average.


GEM tonight shows a showery setup early next week with the best of the dry, bright and warm periods between the showers most likely over Southern Britain, especially later in the week.


NAVGEM also shows a changeable start to the week before things try to settle down a bit under a building ridge of High pressure from the SW across the UK later next week.


ECM tonight shows a showery start to the week while the model again winds up an unseasonably deep Low from an ex tropical storm to the NW late in the week with wind and rain sweeping East across the UK late in the week followed by showers and sunny intervals. With average temperatures for the most part and with the onset of wind and rain it would probably feel rather cool especially in the wind.


In Summary the weather continues to look like being rather showery over the early part of next week and possibly somewhat more generally unsettled later with fresh to strong breezes in association with a more vigorous Westerly flow later. There will be up until that point a fair amount of dry and fine weather to enjoy between the showers with quite respectable temperatures in the South and SE at times.


Martin G
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Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:31:51

Thanks Martin

Polar Low
31 July 2013 19:39:04

Indeed s/f and the 12z gfs mean still looks good for the south and s/e in a weeks time.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png 

Matty H
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31 July 2013 22:25:11
Oh dear, I see the old "smiley only" replies have reared their head.

On topic please chaps in line with what the opening post asks 😄
Medlock Vale Weather
31 July 2013 22:51:36

18z GFS looking rather hot for here tomorrow and also Friday, not a bad start to August but unfortunately it doesn't look like lasting into next week away from the south and south east. I've noticed the nights slowly drawing in now too. Boo hoo! 


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