David M Porter
14 April 2018 21:40:41

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


I think you mean 2007? Which had a roasting April then a dreadful summer. And 2008 too for that matter.



I don't recall April 2008 being overly warm here for the most part unlike the preceding April; just like this April we had some snow here during the first few days of that month. From what I remember it wasn't until the last 10 days of the month when temperatures recovered here to values more like those we would expect to see in mid-late April.


May 2008 was mostly warm and settled, but as you say the summer was poor.


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LeedsLad123
14 April 2018 21:45:41

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


I think you mean 2007? Which had a roasting April then a dreadful summer. And 2008 too for that matter.



April 2008 had average temps with widespread snowfall. Definitely not 'roasting'.


And last April we had 2-3 days with temps in the 20s and the following summer was distinctly average (and in this part of the world it was sunnier than average). The projected temps aren't as unusual as people think.


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15 April 2018 07:12:30

Lovely week coming up. But one week doesn't make a warm April, any more than a warm April guarantees a warm summer. 


For the following week both GFS and ECM  have low pressure NE of the UK, bringing in cold air from the north (ECM markedly so), as hinted at in the MetO outlook https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/ecm/240_mslp500.png?cb=400 - but it's FI so don't give up hope!


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15 April 2018 07:33:18

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


I think you mean 2007? Which had a roasting April then a dreadful summer. And 2008 too for that matter.


I think Tim meant he has to think of 2003 because that was the exception to his theory of poor summers following warm Aprils.   


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15 April 2018 07:40:40

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


I think you mean 2007? Which had a roasting April then a dreadful summer. And 2008 too for that matter.



No I mean April 2003: the exception to the usual rule that warm spring = rubbish summer.


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Brian Gaze
15 April 2018 07:49:04

Warmth looks locked and loaded. 27C (81F) a distinct possibility.



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David M Porter
15 April 2018 08:47:10

Originally Posted by: Caz 


I think Tim meant he has to think of 2003 because that was the exception to his theory of poor summers following warm Aprils.   



As far as I'm informed, if one goes back further in time, 1984 also had a very good April which was followed by a good summer.


Last April had a settled second half here (after the Easter weekend) after what had been a changeable first half. May was also good until late on in the month.


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16 April 2018 06:40:11

Jet stream surprisingly active in a week's time compared to the spell of quiet weather shown on the synoptics.


https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream 


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Charmhills
16 April 2018 09:55:52

A very nice spell of weather coming up this week at long last.


Get out and enjoy it while it lasts.


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16 April 2018 18:01:42

-10s knocking on the door of Scotland at T+348, according to the GFS.

cultman1
16 April 2018 18:04:29

Are we looking at another cold snap in FI/ late next week countrywide ?  Surely now the jet stream has moved further north the likelihood of SSW influenced colder extremes has reduced?

Arcus
16 April 2018 19:15:50
Interesting to see as the models have evolved over the past week that the intensity and duration of a warm snap can be downgraded nearer the time alongside it's cold cousin in other times!
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LeedsLad123
16 April 2018 19:32:15

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Interesting to see as the models have evolved over the past week that the intensity and duration of a warm snap can be downgraded nearer the time alongside it's cold cousin in other times!


Eh, GFS shows Wednesday-Sunday reaching 20C or higher here. No complaints.


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Saint Snow
17 April 2018 09:15:43

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


Eh, GFS shows Wednesday-Sunday reaching 20C or higher here. No complaints.



 


Oooh! Five whole days?


 


 




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Rob K
17 April 2018 09:30:25
Annoyingly I have next week off work rather than this week, so the chances of being able to get stuff done in the garden look less good. A transition to cool westerlies/northwesterlies at the start of next week looks more or less nailed on now.
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Gandalf The White
18 April 2018 07:44:47

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Annoyingly I have next week off work rather than this week, so the chances of being able to get stuff done in the garden look less good. A transition to cool westerlies/northwesterlies at the start of next week looks more or less nailed on now.


Yes, the trend to cooler and less settled conditions is well signaled in the ensembles.


 



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David M Porter
18 April 2018 08:22:04

As noted above, it looks as though this week's warm spell is likely to be something of a flash in the pan with cooler and more unsettled weather returning next week.


Mind you, the lack of any sustained warmth this spring thus far might be no bad thing, as during the last decade or so we have had a number of springs with sustained warm and dry spells which were then followed by mediocre summers.


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18 April 2018 12:22:32

2011 had an amazing April and a very dry March April and May.
I don't think the summer was especially poor, but July was quite wet.
2012 was horrible though, so how was that spring?
Well here April mean was 5.7C (-2.5C)
69mm of rain too.
The theory does not stack up.


Hungry Tiger
18 April 2018 12:25:47

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


As noted above, it looks as though this week's warm spell is likely to be something of a flash in the pan with cooler and more unsettled weather returning next week.


Mind you, the lack of any sustained warmth this spring thus far might be no bad thing, as during the last decade or so we have had a number of springs with sustained warm and dry spells which were then followed by mediocre summers.



2007 annd 2008 were both good Aprils followed by appalling summers.


Indeed 2007 was the summer with the damaging floods.


 


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Gandalf The White
18 April 2018 12:59:16

The ECM 00z ensemble continues the theme: cool (end of April should see highs of around 16C) and rather unsettled. It also predicts a very wet Sunday, which I think has sneaked up on us from nowhere.




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