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Rob K
26 February 2018 17:00:59

 

I understand Caz, though my kids are disappointed as they were looking forward to sledging after all the media hype. We’ve now nicknamed this event as “The Least from the East”  in our house πŸ˜‚

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

So you're writing off a 3-4 day cold spell after less than 12 hours? 


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johncs2016
26 February 2018 17:02:10
I've just read that the low pressure system which has been modelled to possibly give some big blizzards down south at the end of the week before possibly introducing milder air into the south of England by the weekend has been officially named as Storm Emma by the Portuguese weather service. There may well have been a lot of uncertainty about what that system might do here in the UK, but we do know that it is likely to be somewhere in the Bay of Biscay at some point in time. This means that it is probably likely to be quite disruptive in that part of the world.

If my memory serves me right, Storm Emma has being named under the system which is jointly operated by France, Spain and Portugal and which is separate from the system which jointly run by the UK and Ireland. That way, we at least don't have to worry about Met Eireann being so quick to name that weather system as Storm Hector, which is the next name in that list.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

JACKO4EVER
26 February 2018 17:05:53

 

So you're writing off a 3-4 day cold spell after less than 12 hours? 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

its produced nothing yet, radar looks poor, downgrades from amber warnings to yellow,,,,,, it’s not exactly epic is it? 

Time yet I hear you say!! Let’s see how it unfolds

Rob K
26 February 2018 17:09:16

 

its produced nothing yet, radar looks poor, downgrades from amber warnings to yellow,,,,,, it’s not exactly epic is it? 

Time yet I hear you say!! Let’s see how it unfolds

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

Produced nothing yet? It hasn't even started yet. The proper cold air arrives tomorrow. Do you pass judgment on a film after the Pearl & Dean adverts? 

OK to be totally accurate we are currently 70 minutes into the first yellow weather warning period, sorry.


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Gavin D
26 February 2018 17:43:50

Apparently the Portuguese Met Office have named the Thursday / Friday low pressure as "Storm Emma" and the UK Met Office have adopted it. No idea whether that is true or not.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Correct they don't name a storm if someone else has already named it so in this case they'll use Storm Emma

Retron
26 February 2018 17:49:31
Interesting to see the Met Office has used the technical meteorological term for sleet (UK-style) in their SE forecast tonight!

"Less cold Friday with rain and snow mixed."

I don't think I've seen them use that term before, it's usually something like "rain, sleet and snow" instead.


Leysdown, north Kent
Saint Snow
26 February 2018 19:05:11

Did my eyes deceive me or did Channel5 just have a news special on 'The Beast From The East'?

FFS.


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Bellevarde
26 February 2018 19:22:20

Can't help but being IMBY smug, latest BBC video forecast describing the NE amber warning area as 'wetter snow' and the SE amber warning area as 'powder snow'.  

eddied
26 February 2018 19:27:56

 

Produced nothing yet? It hasn't even started yet. The proper cold air arrives tomorrow. Do you pass judgment on a film after the Pearl & Dean adverts? 

OK to be totally accurate we are currently 70 minutes into the first yellow weather warning period, sorry.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

At one point this was looking like it could be a 10 day affair. 

Then, for the south it became a 5-day affair

today was day one, which by your own admission didn’t really amount to very much. 

Day 4 and 5 are now in question on the models (if not unanimously answered). Yes they could be epic, but the evidence increasingly suggests not

So we’re possibly down to a 2 day event. Let’s hope not, but pretending we’re where we hoped to be just a few days ago is rather sticking your fingers in your ears and singing loudly to yourself to ignore the message. 

That said, let’s hope tomorrow delivers something. It could still happen. 

Headlines in tonight’s metro exhorting everyone “to get home by 6 tonight” make the point nicely, as my undelayed train home happily trundles home across an utterly snowless south London. There certainly has been too much hyperbole so far, but not from the sceptics. 


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LeedsLad123
26 February 2018 19:45:09

 

 

I noticed that just after I looked at the automated forecast which reduced five hours heavy snow to two.

 

It will be what it will be

Originally Posted by: Super Cell 

Yeah - the system is now appearing on the radar so we'll find out what will actually happen in the next few hours. 

And the automated forecasts seem to change with every update. They really are pointless. 


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
sizzle
26 February 2018 19:56:46
KevBrads1
26 February 2018 19:58:54

Apparently the Portuguese Met Office have named the Thursday / Friday low pressure as "Storm Emma" and the UK Met Office have adopted it. No idea whether that is true or not.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

The Met Office is up to H, the whole thing is a shambles.


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Arcus
26 February 2018 20:00:48

 

The Met Office is up to H, the whole thing is a shambles.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Hemma.


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Ally Pally Snowman
26 February 2018 20:13:05

 

At one point this was looking like it could be a 10 day affair. 

Then, for the south it became a 5-day affair

today was day one, which by your own admission didn’t really amount to very much. 

Day 4 and 5 are now in question on the models (if not unanimously answered). Yes they could be epic, but the evidence increasingly suggests not

So we’re possibly down to a 2 day event. Let’s hope not, but pretending we’re where we hoped to be just a few days ago is rather sticking your fingers in your ears and singing loudly to yourself to ignore the message. 

That said, let’s hope tomorrow delivers something. It could still happen. 

Headlines in tonight’s metro exhorting everyone “to get home by 6 tonight” make the point nicely, as my undelayed train home happily trundles home across an utterly snowless south London. There certainly has been too much hyperbole so far, but not from the sceptics. 

Originally Posted by: eddied 

Good post, the hyperbole on the tv news is just embarrassing nothing has  happened yet. Still 2 or 3 days of snow showers to come and maybe an event on Friday so we can't judge it yet . But it could be a massive let down which we don't deserve for the amount of bloody model watching we've all put in.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
SJV
26 February 2018 20:15:06

snow watch anyone ?  https://www.gavsweathervids.com/snowwatch.html  

 

Originally Posted by: sizzle 

Useful links, sizzle my friend but can you stick all of that stuff in the media thread where it belongs? 

ECM 12z pretty good I must admit - we're trending slowly but surely in the right direction for some sort of messy continuation for cold temperatures. 

What we want is a nationwide snow event for Thurs/Fri with a battle win for the cold air then further shots at snow weekend and next week. Not too much to ask for in the grand scheme of things is it? 

Hade Edge Snowman
26 February 2018 20:24:25

 

Useful links, sizzle my friend but can you stick all of that stuff in the media thread where it belongs? 

ECM 12z pretty good I must admit - we're trending slowly but surely in the right direction for some sort of messy continuation for cold temperatures. 

What we want is a nationwide snow event for Thurs/Fri with a battle win for the cold air then further shots at snow weekend and next week. Not too much to ask for in the grand scheme of things is it? 

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Sounds fair enough to me


Hade Edge Snowman

Holmfirth

West Yorkshire

1060 feet/323 metres ASL

Hade Edge Snowman
26 February 2018 20:33:31

 

Yorkshire is looking increasingly like a prime spot for next few days including Friday.  

Originally Posted by: backtobasics 

Excellent news


Hade Edge Snowman

Holmfirth

West Yorkshire

1060 feet/323 metres ASL

Chiltern Blizzard
26 February 2018 23:05:49
Saw BBC weather... Maxes for midweek seems to be 3-4 degrees higher than reported. Can’t believe most of the country will max at +2 to +3c as 850s from the east are -15 to -17c?!?
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
fairweather
26 February 2018 23:18:57

 

Good post, the hyperbole on the tv news is just embarrassing nothing has  happened yet. Still 2 or 3 days of snow showers to come and maybe an event on Friday so we can't judge it yet . But it could be a massive let down which we don't deserve for the amount of bloody model watching we've all put in.

 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Both good posts. It's as if Donald Trump is writing the weather news! It may turn out to be a decent spell that they are cold ramping more than us! The Anglia presenter said todays temperatures were "way below zero and will be even lower tonight" !! They have cancelled trains "in case of" disruption. What is this Country becoming? I lost count of the "more on the way" quotes, they've hi-jacked our "Beast from the East" and trotted out the local councillor with three million gritter trucks because Essex is due to be the worst hit. That is contrary to the forecast that followed that clearly showed Kent being the worst affected. Crazy times. I do hope they are right because otherwise it will be big egg on face time for them.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
John p
26 February 2018 23:26:21

 

Useful links, sizzle my friend but can you stick all of that stuff in the media thread where it belongs? 

ECM 12z pretty good I must admit - we're trending slowly but surely in the right direction for some sort of messy continuation for cold temperatures. 

What we want is a nationwide snow event for Thurs/Fri with a battle win for the cold air then further shots at snow weekend and next week. Not too much to ask for in the grand scheme of things is it? 

Originally Posted by: SJV 

This is the media thread isn’t it? πŸ‘€


Camberley, Surrey
Retron
27 February 2018 03:25:28

Interesting to see an automated forecast low of -10C here tonight [from the MetO site]. That'd be the first time since 1987 if that were to happen.

The text forecast only mentions a low of -9C and, TBH, I wouldn't expect lower than -5C or so what with the wind. We'll see!


Leysdown, north Kent
Argyle77
27 February 2018 05:27:53
Would this cold spell have beaten 87 in depth of cold if it had started around the same time

Downpour
27 February 2018 07:23:30
I had to turn off BBC News (and switch to Channel 4 News) last night because the coverage was truly cringeworthy. I have just returned from Colorado, where there was six inches put down in a few hours, and -16c temperatures. The schools opened as normal and no-one mentioned the weather.

As for the weather here? Most of the populous areas of the UK have no snow lying. The thing has been completely overramped by the BBC, who should hang their heads in shame.


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johncs2016
27 February 2018 08:07:28

I had to turn off BBC News (and switch to Channel 4 News) last night because the coverage was truly cringeworthy. I have just returned from Colorado, where there was six inches put down in a few hours, and -16c temperatures. The schools opened as normal and no-one mentioned the weather.

As for the weather here? Most of the populous areas of the UK have no snow lying. The thing has been completely overramped by the BBC, who should hang their heads in shame.

Originally Posted by: Downpour 

Personally, I don't just think that it is just the media who are to blame here (although I'm not suggesting in any way that they are completely blameless here) because at the end of the day, I have continually looked at a number of charts either on certain websites, or which have been posted on here by various forum members which have all pointed towards certain aspects of the overall model output which shows certain aspects which on the basis of how this winter has gone so far, can only really be described to being too good to be true.

The bottom line here, is that forecasts which are given out the media is then based on that model output and if that model output is showing things which are really good to be true, that is also going to come through on the various forecasts as well, so we cannot blame the media for that. What all of this is showing, is that the whole thing has been a hoax from the very start with that model output having been produced by various agencies who are surely being paid by certain aspects of the media (such as the Express) to produce such model output in order to assist them with producing those much over-hyped forecasts for which they are famous for.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Gavin D
27 February 2018 08:44:41
Next week

Less cold

Unsettled

Risk of further snow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43206387 

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