I think we’ve been kippered yet again.
Really should get another hobby 😎

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As I write, we haven't had a single official air frost here in Edinburgh since 21 January 2018.

At the moment though, we are under quite a decent area of high pressure (as shown by the fact that as at 8pm tonight, the pressure at Edinburgh Gogarbank had gone up to 1,033.2mb), and we don't have those easterlies which the south of England is getting.

As a result of being under this area of high pressure, the winds are light and we have also been under increasingly clear skies as the day has gone on.

You would think that these would therefore, be the perfect conditions for that duck to finally be broken so that we finally get that elusive air frost and indeed, we have come very close to doing do with the temperature going down to 0.9°C at both Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh as at 7pm this evening.

However, I have just looked outside and discovered that it has become cloudy once again, and the result of this is that the temperatures are refusing to drop once again so that as at 8pm, the temperature at Edinburgh Gogarbank remains unchanged from the previous hour at 0.9°C, and has gone up slightly to 1.2°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

That in turn, makes me wonder what on Earth, it is going to take for us to finally get an official air frost in this part of the world.

EDIT:

Temperature at 9pm has now gone up to 1.1°C at Edinburgh Gogarbank and 2.1°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh as if to emphasise that point, that we just CANNOT get an official air frost here in Edinburgh any more.

 

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As I write, we haven't had a single official air frost here in Edinburgh since 21 January 2018.

At the moment though, we are under quite a decent area of high pressure (as shown by the fact that as at 8pm tonight, the pressure at Edinburgh Gogarbank had gone up to 1,033.2mb), and we don't have those easterlies which the south of England is getting.

As a result of being under this area of high pressure, the winds are light and we have also been under increasingly clear skies as the day has gone on.

You would think that these would therefore, be the perfect conditions for that duck to finally be broken so that we finally get that elusive air frost and indeed, we have come very close to doing do with the temperature going down to 0.9°C at both Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh as at 7pm this evening.

However, I have just looked outside and discovered that it has become cloudy once again, and the result of this is that the temperatures are refusing to drop once again so that as at 8pm, the temperature at Edinburgh Gogarbank remains unchanged from the previous hour at 0.9°C, and has gone up slightly to 1.2°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

That in turn, makes me wonder what on Earth, it is going to take for us to finally get an official air frost in this part of the world.

EDIT:

Temperature at 9pm has now gone up to 1.1°C at Edinburgh Gogarbank and 2.1°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh as if to emphasise that point, that we just CANNOT get an official air frost here in Edinburgh any more.

 

Seriously dude get a grip.. 2 weeks without an air frost is nothing 😂😂 

 

Seriously dude get a grip.. 2 weeks without an air frost is nothing 😂😂 

Not nowadays it would appear, but this is supposed to be the coldest time of the year on average. Since I also live much further north than you do, I should have a right to expect more in the way of air frosts than you just in the same manner in which I would expect it to be hotter on average during the summer where you are, than it is here for the same reason.

Added to that is the fact that the number of official frosts which we had during January was a long way short of the 1981-2010 average, I would then hope that you will at least begin to understand why I feel a bit short-changed in this department just now. That in turn, makes it all the frustrating that we have had a situation during tonight under high pressure where you would think that we could never possibly have a better chance of getting that air frost, only to find that we still narrowly fail to do so.

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I am fully aware that I'm beginning to sound a bit like Richard from Aberdeen here but then, this is the moaning thread after all.

 

 

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Ah, an appearance of the fabled THUNDERSLEET - awesome.

The 21-year (soon to be 22-year, as of next week) wait for a midwinter easterly with powder snow, ice days etc continues.

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I’m bored of it all now. Booking myself into rehab - a whole two weeks without a single 500hPa anomaly chart or incorrect ppn distribution or anyone moaning about not being high enough above sea level. For all I care they can all carry on squabbling as they paw over a slight shift here or a degree there - and thinking we all understand what a QBO differential torque is. I don’t care because I’ll be free to live again. Read a book; listen to the other half and maybe even respond; see the sky for what it is not what it might produce. And the daffs will flower, the sun will shine and it’ll all be over for another year.
😉

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Looking like another damp squib is on the cards for this week, the current rather cool snap is still stuttering along with temps IMBY still not dropping to freezing or below. Tomorrow’s alleged snow event will possibly see snow falling but as throughout this winter will no doubt end up with a small window of wet snow falling.

The rest of the weeek looks at best average in terms of temperature, still we’ve got the SSW event in shaking up the atmosphere, which without doubt will put us on the wrong side of any block for colder conditions. 😂😂

listen to the other half

 

Steady on, Neil!

I know things are bad, but it's never that bad.

 

I do wonder if I'll ever see my dream - a catastrophic snowfall event. Ideally around 72-96 hours of heavy snowfall, dumping several feet across the entire UK (I imagine Portsmouth, Exeter, Leysdown and The Wirral may just get moderate sleet). The whole country crippled, a national emergency declared, all roads impassable. And it lasts for 2-3 weeks

Just as long as I'd had ample warning to stock up on a couple of generators, fuel, food and a camping stove.

 

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Hi Saint!

If the atmospheric hosepipe that delivered the boxing day floods here in 2015 had encountered cold air below we'd have seen over 1m of snow that night!

With the weather turning ever more WACCy be careful what you wish for!!!

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Ah, an appearance of the fabled THUNDERSLEET - awesome.

The 21-year (soon to be 22-year, as of next week) wait for a midwinter easterly with powder snow, ice days etc continues.

I wonder what happened to the frequent heavy snow showers. A few in Kent early this morning but zilch on the radar now. I've had one air frost (-0.6C for a couple of hours) since start of January.

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Steady on, Neil!

I know things are bad, but it's never that bad.

 

I said listen, not talk. I can’t let it go completely! 😉

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Steady on, Neil!

I know things are bad, but it's never that bad.

 

I do wonder if I'll ever see my dream - a catastrophic snowfall event. Ideally around 72-96 hours of heavy snowfall, dumping several feet across the entire UK (I imagine Portsmouth, Exeter, Leysdown and The Wirral may just get moderate sleet). The whole country crippled, a national emergency declared, all roads impassable. And it lasts for 2-3 weeks

Just as long as I'd had ample warning to stock up on a couple of generators, fuel, food and a camping stove.

 

 

WELL there was an event back in the late 1880's  that did dump huge amounts of snow south of the m4, and the worst hit areas were along the south coast (Solent) and IOW. Portsmouth was one the areas that saw the most in that blizzard with around 30 inches of level snow falling.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_of_January_1881

God this “cold” spell is tedious,,,,, roll on spring

 

 

WELL there was an event back in the late 1880's  that did dump huge amounts of snow south of the m4, and the worst hit areas were along the south coast (Solent) and IOW. Portsmouth was one the areas that saw the most in that blizzard with around 30 inches of level snow falling.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_of_January_1881

well reading what was being projected by some on that other site, I was expecting something similar this week To be fair though, having seen various wewther advisories for people to take care due to the cold weather, here in Chichester, this morning we did have a drizzle shower for about 10mins...and there was just a hint of sleet...

God this “cold” spell is tedious,,,,, roll on spring

 

Sneer all you want, but you won't be complaining of tediousness when you wake up tomorrow and look out onto your patchy dusting!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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And what will this SSW fizzle into?

with the U.S. limb of the split looking to continue to warm what are the chances that this is some long drawn out final warming with an abortive Easterly bringing nothing but cold Grey for most areas not sat on the east coast?

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Sneer all you want, but you won't be complaining of tediousness when you wake up tomorrow and look out onto your patchy dusting!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im really looking forward to seeing all those pictures of snowmen people have made on their roof of their cars with what didnt thaw in their hand

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God this “cold” spell is tedious,,,,, roll on spring

I don't want to be unreasonable but isn't there a Winter Moaning thread for this sort of stuff?  It really isn't adding anything useful here, is it?

 

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Will this be the coldest week of winter or the most horrible week of another horrendous winter? The evidence from today suggests the latter.

Clear skies and no wind at all yesterday from sunset until midnight saw the temperature plunge to a truly bone-chilling -0.4C. Couldn’t contain my excitement at seeing it get that low. After midnight it shot up as rain and cloud moved in continuing the vile start to February.  By dawn it was not in the slightest bit cold, at 2C, to be followed by absolutely useless soul destroying grey rubbish all day long.

There is no sign of any decent snowfall on the horizon. The synoptics for the foreseeable are dire and the situation is beyond desperate when we are rapidly approaching the unprecedented  5^th anniversary of the last time there was more than 6cm of snow on the ground

As far as I can see the outlook for here is 3C grey rubbish for the next few days then mild wet crap on Thursday followed by another miserable weekend. If we do get any snow overnight tonight  it will likely be horrid wet stuff, aka ‘white rain’ that fails to produce photogenic scenes. The stuff nightmares are made of and reminiscent of the unpleasant and extremely uninteresting pile of dross that was February 2017.

Increasingly likely that the cold spell in the 2^nd week of December won’t be beaten and, apart from one night, that wasn’t even particularly cold. It’s telling that the mean minimum for the coldest week, a pathetic  -1.8C, is the highest for any winter since 2013/14. A further piece of evidence to support my view that this winter has been poor even by the standards of the past few

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Steady on, Neil!

I know things are bad, but it's never that bad.

 

I do wonder if I'll ever see my dream - a catastrophic snowfall event. Ideally around 72-96 hours of heavy snowfall, dumping several feet across the entire UK (I imagine Portsmouth, Exeter, Leysdown and The Wirral may just get moderate sleet). The whole country crippled, a national emergency declared, all roads impassable. And it lasts for 2-3 weeks

Just as long as I'd had ample warning to stock up on a couple of generators, fuel, food and a camping stove.

 

Saint-you should read a short story by Richard Jefferies- The Great Snow (1876); fantasy in a book. If it's not too obscure to Google, it really is a good read. London gets totally paralysed.

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