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idj20
27 October 2026 12:56:33
I do like the latest round of model runs showing October on a benign note with signs of November starting in the same way. The longer that eats into deep Autumn, the better. 

I won't miss feeling like living in a lighthouse every other day, however, a new problem may manifest in the form of reduced air quality and visibility due to millions of fireworks and bonfires going off in a stagnant set up. 


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Crepuscular Ray
27 October 2026 12:57:32
GFS 06Z Looks very interesting. Dry and anticyclonic from end of this week until mid-November. Northern Europe turning cold and some of this cold coming west!

I would love that pre-Christmas scenario! I'll bank it until the 12Z 


Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Saint Snow
27 October 2026 15:56:32

Only cold ramping from now on please 😁

Speaking of cold ramping the ECM has a SSW this morning around the 8th November. We could be in for an interesting late November early December 🤞🤞🤞

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Fingers crossed! We're off to a log cabin between the Cairngorms and Trossachs, first weekend in december. It has a log burner. Cold and, ideally, dry, with snow-capped peaks would suit me down to the ground.


Martin

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picturesareme
27 October 2026 16:06:23

Only cold ramping from now on please 😁

Speaking of cold ramping the ECM has a SSW this morning around the 8th November. We could be in for an interesting late November early December 🤞🤞🤞

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

This forum is a little slow these days lol. Hints and suggestions have been all over Facebook and the other forums for about 5 days now. I think Brian tried dropping hints something was brewing but didn't really get much response on here. 

Saint Snow
27 October 2026 17:23:52

This forum is a little slow these days lol. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

In more ways than one! 

Would be nice to have more regular posters contributing here.


Martin

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Brian Gaze
27 October 2026 18:12:21
I've added in UKV 2m temperature anomaly charts using ERA5 data, for Premium members. They're automatically available if you're logged.

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DEW
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28 October 2026 07:55:25
FAX - a few stray fronts around mainly in the north, dying on their feet as the week progresses as pressure rises first over S Denmark 1031mb Fri 30th (some nice warm S-lies for Britain) and then over W Scotland 1040mb Sun 1st (with cooler E-lies for S England).

GFS Op 00z - High pressure as above firmly covering Britain for a week to Sun 8th before drifting to the SW and allowing W/NW-lies to take over for the following week - cooler, but still looking dry, and returning 1025mb England Fri 13th.

ECM - like GFS but the centre of HP moves eastwards, to the N Sea, as Sun 8th approaches and keeps mild S-lies going.

AIFS - London, dry with maxima drifting down from 15C now to 9C Sun 8th, then a little milder (12-13C) with some rain Mon/Tue 9th/10th. Edinburgh, maxima ca 13C for the rest of this week, then levelling out at 10C to Mon 9th when a day's heavy rain, and cooler (7C) to follow. 

GEFS - mean temp close to norm and well supported by ens members all the way to Fri 13th (perhaps a little warmer for the rest of this week); dry, chances of rain increasing after Sun 8th (also a little more rain for Scotland around Sun 1st).

Cold ramping, alas, not supported by the charts, but the drought goes on - Ardingly reservoir in Sussex recovered from about 15% full to 20% after the weekend's rain but it'll be back down again soon.


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Brian Gaze
28 October 2026 08:03:10
GEFS seems fairly consistent with this type of temperature profile across Europe in the medium term.

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HibbertG
28 October 2026 10:07:17
We could be in for an interesting late November early December 

Shades of 1962?  The last London pea soup fog and subzero temperatures right at the end of that November. Then came Jan 1963!

Brian Gaze
28 October 2026 12:06:20
Just a quick reminder that we've still got the breakout thread, I've moved a couple of posts to it and posted the link below.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/Posts/m1724410-Breakout-thread 


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Saint Snow
28 October 2026 14:49:32

Just a quick reminder that we've still got the breakout thread, I've moved a couple of posts to it and posted the link below.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/Posts/m1724410-Breakout-thread 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

🤣

WRT to the MO, a lovely outlook from succesive GFS runs, with decent support in the Ens and from both ECM and Icon (although not from the AI GFS!)


Martin

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Jiries
28 October 2026 20:07:11

GEFS seems fairly consistent with this type of temperature profile across Europe in the medium term.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Wondered what caused all this very cool or even cold air mass over the SE Europe to E Med?  Cyprus now entering the 3rd very cool air mass since it started end of September.   Quite strange to see all the cold are south and not north side.

Brian Gaze
28 October 2026 21:29:46

Wondered what caused all this very cool or even cold air mass over the SE Europe to E Med?  Cyprus now entering the 3rd very cool air mass since it started end of September.   Quite strange to see all the cold are south and not north side.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

I think a lot of it is to do with high pressure building. Remember, those are the 2m temperature anomalies.


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DEW
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29 October 2026 08:17:33
FAX - High pressure now over SE England / near continent staying there to Friday with front tickling the far NW. This HP then consolidates with another from the Atlantic to centre over Scotland 1040mb Sun 1st, though the front moves to N England, but decaying so cloudy there.

GFS Op 00z - very little change after Sun 1st for ten days, HP anchored over Britain, perhaps cooler on east coast with light N-lies on its flank. From Wed 11th it sinks south, and there are light W/SW-lies but pressure is still quite high.

ECM - like GFS until Mon 9th when the HP drifts SE-wards, rather than S-wards, allowing a weak trough to cross Britain, before the HP resumes over England 1025mb Wed 11th, then drifting N-wards

AIFS - London, maxima declining from14C now to 8C Sun 8th, then a little rain Mon 9th, one day only,  with maxima back up to around 13C. Edinburgh, maxima 14C now, dropping sharply to 6-8C from the weekend; rising again also Mon 9th to 13C but with rain persisting for that week.

GEFS - mean temp with quite good support from ens members a few degrees above norm this week (perhaps suppressed by local fog which doesn't show up in this chart), then close to norm, maybe a few degrees below norm at the start of next week in the S Op & control are warmer outliers. Chances of rain from Mon 9th onwards, not in all runs, most likely in W.

A classic anticyclonal autumn to start November.


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Chichester 12m asl

Brian Gaze
29 October 2026 08:18:58
Pressure steadily falling as we head through the first half of November. It looks like a few of the runs bring deep areas of low pressure into play, but far from certain.

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DEW
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29 October 2026 08:32:44

Pressure steadily falling as we head through the first half of November. It looks like a few of the runs bring deep areas of low pressure into play, but far from certain.

Brian Gaze;1724528

Good news for the water authorities if these exceptions prove to be true, never mind the cold rampers. But these are only 3 or 4 iterations out of the 30 on offer


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Brian Gaze
29 October 2026 11:07:36
The video shows the ECM 2M 18:00 GMT temperature anomalies for the next 15 days.

 


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Lionel Hutz
29 October 2026 11:42:31

The video shows the ECM 2M 18:00 GMT temperature anomalies for the next 15 days.

 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Some quite remarkable anomalies showing up in Eastern and especially Northern Europe.


Lionel Hutz

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tallyho_83
29 October 2026 13:03:08
What do people make of the zonal winds at 10hpa potentially going into reverse during a strengthening time of year (winter)

https://charts.ecmwf.int/permalinks/mean-zonal-wind-at-10-hpa-sub-seasonal-range-forecast-77604 


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Brian Gaze
29 October 2026 13:29:39

What do people make of the zonal winds at 10hpa potentially going into reverse during a strengthening time of year (winter)

https://charts.ecmwf.int/permalinks/mean-zonal-wind-at-10-hpa-sub-seasonal-range-forecast-77604 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

My view: there's an element of "8 out of 10 cats prefer" to this. Whilst it's very interesting from a meteorological point of view, particularly because it is SO early, many people (and I'm not suggesting you're one of them) short circuit and conclude that a major cold spell can be expected. As we've seen in recent years and indeed decades, the chance of cold spells may well be increased, but a) they remain far from certain b) severe cold spells, which is what most people are focusing on, are even less certain.


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tallyho_83
29 October 2026 14:24:40
I agree. But certainly interesting as it is early November if this was to come off never the less and one to keep and eye on!!

Btw I cannot log into two on desktop but It seems to work on mobile despite same user and password? Can you advise pls Brian? Cheers 🍻 


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Jiries
29 October 2026 16:00:13
Thankfully the models are dropping the idea of gloom HP that was showing to last to mid November God forbid now cut shorter to early next week as it moved away north so allowing colder easterly feeds so hope this bring sunshine and frosts, we don't need HP on top of UK that give gloom and static mild temps day and nights.
Ally Pally Snowman
29 October 2026 17:27:43
DEW
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29 October 2026 18:04:44

Remarkable GFS 12z run. SSW causing chaos?

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=1&run=12&time=234&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Now look at T+348 in this link rather than T+234, Overnight snow for S England? Surely not!

Though I can remember one November half term ca 1980 when there was an inch or so of snow lying in N Essex for 2 or 3 days, on the shady side of hedges .


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Brian Gaze
29 October 2026 18:23:44
Here are the 15:00 2m temperature anomalies from that run.

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