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TheJudge
15 January 2026 12:42:47

I don't think so. However, TWO forecasts now give you the option to switch to ECMWF. Just scroll down and you'll see the button below the forecast panel. They're currently using today's 00Z run. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Thanks, I noticed you posted that a few days ago and took a look 👍


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Quantum
15 January 2026 12:42:56

The ECM6Z has the warm bubble further NE than the GFS.

https://modeles3.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf2/runs/2026011506/ecmwfnh-13-144.png?6 

Even at 144h this affects the cold core cutoff which is already further west, you can see it centered over western Russia and pushing as far west as the Baltics 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

The JMA incidentally has it far to the NW of the GFS and interestingly a big upgrade on its own 0Z solution.

The JMA6Z would likely be a pretty cold run if we got to see how it ended.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

TheJudge
15 January 2026 12:45:53

No it uses the IBM model (or at least did last I checked). I have noticed it has trended much milder for the coming 10 days over the last 48 hours or so - it was showing a max of 3C for next Wednesday, with a steady decline in temps up to that point, but now shows a flatlined 8-9C for the next 10 days.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

This is why I asked the question, the trend has been towards a flatline with consistent temps for the next 10 days around 7 degrees. I wasn’t sure which model the forecast was based upon but tends to update about 6 times a day.


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fairweather
15 January 2026 13:14:57

Could just be noise, but there are more rain spikes between 23 - 28 January. Perhaps slow moving areas of low pressure pushing a tad farther east. To me it still seems that the last week of January and the first half of February is the period to watch for cold. 

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

......... and next week it will change to the first two weeks of February and then it will be the sun is too strong for lying snow!


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warrenb
15 January 2026 13:15:26
Quantum, you are reminding me of the person that always went on about high pressure over Svalbard, but can't remember their user name. It was a long time ago, probably going on 20 years ago
Deep Powder
15 January 2026 13:31:52
I seem to remember a poster who I think was called ‘Toad’ who regularly talked about the Siberian high and how it would influence our winter weather…..but not the same as what you are referring to Warrenb, I don’t think

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=1&run=6&time=144&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref 

No Siberian high on this chart at 144h, but an interesting one in terms of possible weather from the east. It’s certainly not the endless raging zonality charts I remember watching on here in many 00s and 10s winters…


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Jiries
15 January 2026 14:10:28

This is why I asked the question, the trend has been towards a flatline with consistent temps for the next 10 days around 7 degrees. I wasn’t sure which model the forecast was based upon but tends to update about 6 times a day.

Originally Posted by: TheJudge 

I notice on the apps as well with same static wrong temperatures after the 21st the date line fully expecting a drop in temperatures.  So only 5 days of boring average temps before dropping off to less cold then subzero deep cold end of the month.  That show on the ensembles a slow drop than the recent cold spell that drop quickly and rose quickly hence the cold spell was very short lived.

TheJudge
15 January 2026 15:17:27

I notice on the apps as well with same static wrong temperatures after the 21st the date line fully expecting a drop in temperatures.  So only 5 days of boring average temps before dropping off to less cold then subzero deep cold end of the month.  That show on the ensembles a slow drop than the recent cold spell that drop quickly and rose quickly hence the cold spell was very short lived.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Looking at the ECMWF 00Z around the 22nd Jan a more easterly influence is appearing, then a gradual temp drop over the following days for this area.

i think I read you work in Nuneaton? Is that your hometown too? You’re not too far away from me as I reside in Coventry half the week. 


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DPower
15 January 2026 16:08:41
Should hopefully see some very potent easterly orientated synoptics in the not to distant future over the UK.
Jiries
15 January 2026 16:22:35

Looking at the ECMWF 00Z around the 22nd Jan a more easterly influence is appearing, then a gradual temp drop over the following days for this area.

i think I read you work in Nuneaton? Is that your hometown too? You’re not too far away from me as I reside in Coventry half the week. 

Originally Posted by: TheJudge 

Yes work and live now in Nuneaton which had good snow last week 10cm.   I am very watchful with the model bad nasty behaviour to make sure they don't attempt do the push backs by seeing the ensembles every day now that the temps will gradually drop.  So far the date 21/22 had been steady for the start of the easterly and temps dropping.   Hope further runs to bring the mean (06z currently -5C) down to -12 to -15c zone by the end of weekend model runs. -12C or below 850's is a must to avoid horrible less cold temperatures 1-4C.

Rob K
15 January 2026 16:51:46
GFS 12Z says no to the easterly... seems to be an increasing signal for the jet to fire up and ride over the top. Let's see what the ensembles say.

GEM looks to be in the balance at the end of the run with a powerful jet hitting a solid block. Hard to say which would win...


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Brian Gaze
15 January 2026 16:58:49
This one looks ok.

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Chunky Pea
15 January 2026 17:10:01
What I find interesting is the how the models are handling the 'battle of the cold blobs' We have one heading this way out of eastern Europe, and another coming out of Canada. The models are trying to pinpoint which blob will dominant over this part of the world. In either case, I think it is safe to say that there is nothing especially mild on the table for the next couple of weeks. 
Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Ally Pally Snowman
15 January 2026 17:22:22

This one looks ok.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It's an astonishing run we are in the freezer from next Friday and stay there all the way. Jan 87 esque.

Interesting that the AI models are most keen atm for the Beast. 


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Retron
15 January 2026 17:23:27

What I find interesting is the how the models are handling the 'battle of the cold blobs' We have one heading this way out of eastern Europe, and another coming out of Canada. The models are trying to pinpoint which blob will dominant over this part of the world. In either case, I think it is safe to say that there is nothing especially mild on the table for the next couple of weeks. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

It may not be really, really mild, but down here at least the models show a good emulation of March over the next few days - highs in double figures, lows more like April or May, a daily average a good 3C above normal. Of course this happened back in the old days too, as one of the ingredients of a Scandinavian High is warm air advection. Many a cold spell started with some especially mild conditions, only for the warmth to drain away as the winds backed first SE'ly, then E'ly and eventually ENE'ly or NE'ly. 

It's comforting in a way that despite all the masses of computational power we have, where we now have turn-of-the-millennium supercomputer levels of power in our phones*, we still can't predict with any certainty whether we'll get cold easterlies or not in 10 days' time. The "AI" pattern-matchers seem more convinced, but TBH it looks like they're just saying "ooh, this is 2005 again, so here's a similar set of charts". 

* - the TOP500 leader, i.e. the fastest computer in the world, in 1999 was ASCI Red, which could manage 3.154 Teraflops. The Samsung phone I now have manages 3.686 Teraflops. Ridiculous, when you think about it!


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Chunky Pea
15 January 2026 17:45:55

It may not be really, really mild, but down here at least the models show a good emulation of March over the next few days - highs in double figures, lows more like April or May, a daily average a good 3C above normal. Of course this happened back in the old days too, as one of the ingredients of a Scandinavian High is warm air advection. Many a cold spell started with some especially mild conditions, only for the warmth to drain away as the winds backed first SE'ly, then E'ly and eventually ENE'ly or NE'ly. 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Would agree with this. Even here the 10 day temp forecast would suggest 'close to average' overall. But should the models switch back to the easterly. this would turn very much colder than average. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

jhall
15 January 2026 18:06:57
Whilst the GFS 12Z Op run was ultimately a disappointment, the ensemble has taken quite a big step in the right direction. Definitely the coldest ensemble yet.
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Rob K
15 January 2026 18:10:47
There are certainly some belting GEFS members this evening. Tonight's winning numbers are 6, 12, 18, 22, 25 and 30. Bonus ball is P19 which brings -12C upper air into Ireland on a westerly...
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Rob K
15 January 2026 18:31:41
Sadly ECM still says a big NO to any easterly fun and games, at least on the op run. Very different from the GEFS mean.

12 out of 32 GEFS members hit -12C but both the op and the control are on the mild side, as is ECM.  Still none the wiser but I fear we are heading for another Jim Bowen easterly - "take a look at what you could have won!"


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Dickieboy68
15 January 2026 18:54:17

" heading for another Jim Bowen easterly - "take a look at what you could have won!"

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Classic 😂🎯


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Quantum
15 January 2026 18:57:35
The ECM does about the worst possible thing with the Svalbard bubble and sends it straight to southern Europe. 

Its an option of course but is pretty much the worst case scenario.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

15 January 2026 19:23:03
Going to very interesting too see if the AI wins this battle of predictions . ! It has been fairly consistent in its outlook. 
Quantum
15 January 2026 19:25:12
The GEFS mean is one of the coldest forecasts I've seen in recent years going out to T+384. Its very rare to get an easterly on the mean charts there. As I say there are many different ways the anticyclone and its cold cutoff can behave; some are disappointing, some rival 1987 but the most likely scenario is a cold easterly at some point. 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

nsrobins
15 January 2026 19:39:26
OPS underwhelming - ENS peachy.

See you tomorrow 😂


Neil

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western100
15 January 2026 20:25:47
Ultimately no model has a scooby doo on what to do. More flip flops than tenerife.

I've not seen a GEFS like that for years and years. Several members bring back Jan 87.

However, there are numerous Atlantic onslaught variations across models as well

Many people hate AI but they like it at the moment, they are bullish over some deep cold

It's 50/50 for me 


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