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Taylor1740
02 February 2025 19:45:16

This would be quite an embarrassment for all the main LRFs that went for very mild winter 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

I think a lot of them also went for a front loaded Winter and were rather confident that February would be the mildest month...


NW Leeds - 150m amsl
White Meadows
02 February 2025 20:06:53

I think a lot of them also went for a front loaded Winter and were rather confident that February would be the mildest month...

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 

Totally. 

It was December that was meant to be the coldest month. So far looking like the mildest 🤣🤣

David M Porter
02 February 2025 20:23:40

Totally. 

It was December that was meant to be the coldest month. So far looking like the mildest 🤣🤣

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

January was slightly below average for overall temperature, according to the BBC week ahead forecast just after 1pm today. Surprised tbh as it didn't seem especially cold for much of the time here, that is apart from the 10 days or so after New Year.

On topic, we may or may not get a significant cold spell from what the models are suggesting will happen a week or so from now. We need to see HP form to the NE as is being indicated by the models firstly and then see what transpires from there on in. One thing is for sure, and that is the outlook is not exactly boring!


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Gandalf The White
02 February 2025 20:30:42

This would be quite an embarrassment for all the main LRFs that went for very mild winter 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Wrong thread. As usual. 


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Chichesterweatherfan2
03 February 2025 14:28:30
In contrast the updated Met office forecast has swung very much in favour of a longer cold spell…
03 February 2025 14:41:46

In contrast the updated Met office forecast has swung very much in favour of a longer cold spell…

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 

Just seen it on my phone, risk of widespread snow following week.

Main headline also changed


Berkshire
nsrobins
03 February 2025 14:57:29
In terms of the Exeter longer term updates, today’s is an unprecedented shift to cold compared to yesterday. Normally these things are trickled in (it was a ‘very low chance’ yesterday) so the signal must be robust now.

Caveat - these forecasts can easily change again.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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03 February 2025 15:24:38
High pressure will likely sit to the northeast of the UK during this period. Consequently, winds across many areas are likely to come from an easterly quadrant, with cold conditions likely, and there's even the possibility of some snow at times. Over the first weekend though, most places will be dry, if rather cloudy, with a few wintry showers possible near some southern and eastern coasts, but some sunshine elsewhere. During the following week, this theme continues, though the risk of wintry showers increases with a risk of some sleet or snow falling more widely for a time, but still with some sunshine in between. Temperatures will likely be a few degrees below average with some hard frosts and the wind may make it feel much colder at times.

Updated: 14:00 (UTC) on Mon 3 Feb 2025


Berkshire
jhall
03 February 2025 16:42:47

In terms of the Exeter longer term updates, today’s is an unprecedented shift to cold compared to yesterday. Normally these things are trickled in (it was a ‘very low chance’ yesterday) so the signal must be robust now.

Caveat - these forecasts can easily change again.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

I was surprised that the 2pm Sunday forecast hadn't changed from the previous day, and wondered if perhaps whoever is responsible for the longer-range forecasts had taken the Sunday off. Incidentally it seems strange that they put these forecasts out at 2pm, when it's too early to get that day's 12:00 model runs outputs.


Cranleigh, Surrey
White Meadows
03 February 2025 20:22:47

Has anyone read this interesting BBC news article? Link given thus https://apple.news/Ael6_-1OkRRCXXzSaGcJw9w; which may be why We might be seeing this now rare HP forming in the way they used to in the 1980s and before, and may well see a return of more of such events in the decades going forward - despite GW. The combination of a weakening AMOC and the La Niña, may have made this possible (accepting all other potential background factors also contributing). Just a thought. Here is the headline part: 

“Could the UK actually get colder with global warming?

Of all the possible climate futures, there's a scenario where the United Kingdom and north-west Europe buck the trend of global warming and instead face plunging temperatures and freezing winters.

It's not the most likely outcome, but a number of scientists fear that the chance of it happening is growing, and that the consequences would be so great that it deserves proper consideration.

They are concerned that the ocean currents that bring warm water from the tropics to the North Atlantic could weaken - or even collapse - in response to climate change.

Huge uncertainties remain about when - or even whether - a collapse could happen. So, how likely is it, and what would it mean?

The system of Atlantic currents, called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc), is a key reason why the UK is warmer than Moscow, despite being a similar distance from the Equator.

Forming a vital part of our climate system, this conveyor belt distributes energy around the planet, bringing warm, salty water from the tropical Atlantic to cooler regions south of Greenland and Iceland, and also the Nordic Seas.

The warmth from the ocean is transferred to the air above it, helping keep temperatures milder than they otherwise would be.

As this salty water cools, it becomes denser, and sinks, before flowing back towards the southern hemisphere as a deep ocean current. This water eventually gets pulled back up to the surface, and the circulation continues.“

Originally Posted by: BJBlake 

Apologies for the direct reply to such a long post, but this is nothing new. 

The possible ‘shut down’ of the NAD (North Atlantic Drift) has been touted for over 20 years, as ice caps melt and change the salinity & subsequent flow of ocean currents in our locale. 

Brian Gaze
03 February 2025 21:19:26

In terms of the Exeter longer term updates, today’s is an unprecedented shift to cold compared to yesterday. Normally these things are trickled in (it was a ‘very low chance’ yesterday) so the signal must be robust now.

Caveat - these forecasts can easily change again.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Tomorrow's update will be more interesting.


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White Meadows
03 February 2025 22:23:37

Tomorrow's update will be more interesting.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Probably stay largely unchanged. Today’s update was a dramatic step off the fence. Any further and they might not climb back up again, without looking very silly. 

Rob K
04 February 2025 11:38:04

In terms of the Exeter longer term updates, today’s is an unprecedented shift to cold compared to yesterday. Normally these things are trickled in (it was a ‘very low chance’ yesterday) so the signal must be robust now.

Caveat - these forecasts can easily change again.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

And once again, as always seems to happen, as soon as the Met Office mention the chance of significant cold, the models drop the idea like a hot potato. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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04 February 2025 16:33:31

And once again, as always seems to happen, as soon as the Met Office mention the chance of significant cold, the models drop the idea like a hot potato. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

still there


Berkshire
White Meadows
04 February 2025 19:35:02
I’m surprised not only the mid term remains fairly certain, the long range also seems to extend the potential for blocking to our NE.

It’s worth remembering the narrative for these forecasts is nowhere near the level of severity or confidence as the 2009 or 2010 cold spells. 

04 February 2025 19:35:52
Great informative video from met

Blames flip to easterly on major storm over Hawaii.

Beef of video at 40mins onwards

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05 February 2025 18:13:32
The normally cautious BBC forecast (Elizabeth Rizzini on Radio 4) talking of the possibility of showers with wintriness over high ground along the South Coast
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Chichester 12m asl

06 February 2025 15:50:40
cold all the way to March?

UK long range weather forecast

Tuesday 11 Feb - Thursday 20 Feb

High pressure is expected to be slow moving and centred to the northeast of the UK over Scandinavia during this period. As a result, east or southeasterly winds will dominate, these bringing cold conditions across the UK from mainland Europe. Some light rain and hill snow is likely at first, particularly across the south of the UK. Dry conditions will probably become more prevalent later in this period with some spells of sunshine or clear skies. However, there is a continued risk of some wintry precipitation at times, particularly along southern and southwestern areas. Temperatures are expected to be below normal during the day with some overnight frost. Brisk winds will exacerbate the cold feel, particularly in the south of the UK.

Updated: 14:00 (UTC) on Thu 6 Feb 2025

Friday 21 Feb - Friday 7 Mar

Weather patterns in the UK are most likely to be slowly evolving. It is most likely that high pressure to the east or northeast of the UK will dominate at first in some form or another, but with time this may decline, allowing an erratic transition to rather more unsettled and less cold conditions. During this transition there is the possibility of periods or rain or snow, at least for a time, but confidence in these details is currently very low.

Updated: 15:00 (UTC) on Thu 6 Feb 2025


Berkshire
Rob K
06 February 2025 17:03:47
That Met Office long ranger certainly doesn’t seem to match current output, high pressure quickly collapsing seems to be the consensus. 

Incidentally I was listening to the radio in the car earlier and the weather forecast said “a chilly day across the Thames Valley with highs of just 8C”!

Since when was 8 degrees considered “chilly” in early February?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Jiries
07 February 2025 07:12:43

That Met Office long ranger certainly doesn’t seem to match current output, high pressure quickly collapsing seems to be the consensus. 

Incidentally I was listening to the radio in the car earlier and the weather forecast said “a chilly day across the Thames Valley with highs of just 8C”!

Since when was 8 degrees considered “chilly” in early February?

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Idiots to be honest as 8 is the average now.

07 February 2025 16:11:41
A complete turnaround to much milder today for the whole extended 🤣

Must mean the beast is coming!


Berkshire
bledur
07 February 2025 18:44:50
Having been forecast a dry week on Sunday we have had 3 days of precipitation out of five and only one day when the sun shone. Not the most accurate forecast and once again i have had to cancel the Muckspreading Contractors. Although not exactly wet , it has been a dreary damp winter here.
Rob K
15 February 2025 09:57:34
Simon King caught out by his phone alarm on live TV this morning, remind him to head upstairs to do the radio forecast…

https://x.com/simonoking/status/1890674476045545932?s=46&t=pi-PW2h-zayk3Ew8WL18KA 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

The Beast from the East
16 March 2025 01:32:57
I remember when Laura was on the BBC in the late 00s.  She still looks so young!


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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scillydave
18 March 2025 19:39:35
Somebody at the Met Office has a sense of humour - check out the last line of the long range forecast...

Sunday 23 Mar - Tuesday 1 Apr

At first, is likely to be more unsettled than it has been of late. Wetter weather will probably continue in many areas, at least for a time, with some heavy rain possible, and this could be accompanied by strong winds at times. Into the following week, unsettled conditions will probably continue to some extent across many parts of the UK, though things could quieten down around midweek, at least temporarily. Temperatures are likely to be widely above average at the start of this period, and it will feel warm in any sunshine, before probably falling back and then fluctuating around average for the remainder rest of the month. The first of April will likely continue in this vein, though it could throw up the odd surprise.


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Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

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