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Ally Pally Snowman
29 January 2024 16:05:03

I'm not sure what's worse, missing the magic 20C by the smallest amount possible, or the muppets replying on Twitter to the MetO post - comments pasted below for your exasperation!

"It's called winter guys... /s"

"Durness in the highlands is currently 6 degrees, more msm propaganda lies I’m afraid"

"Stop spreading lies"

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Yes the comments are complete madness. But that's twitter/X for you. It's not a place to stay to long anymore.

 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
29 January 2024 16:10:09

I'm not sure what's worse, missing the magic 20C by the smallest amount possible, or the muppets replying on Twitter to the MetO post - comments pasted below for your exasperation!

"It's called winter guys... /s"

"Durness in the highlands is currently 6 degrees, more msm propaganda lies I’m afraid"

"Stop spreading lies"

Originally Posted by: Retron 

At least that first one was just mocking the idiots... note the "/s"

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

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Retron
29 January 2024 16:13:38

At least that first one was just mocking the idiots... note the "/s"

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Had to look that up! For others who might not have known, "/s" means "sarcasm".

Leysdown, north Kent
polarwind
31 January 2024 09:44:42

Record snow ..... wow!

see  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68137079  

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

Saint Snow
31 January 2024 14:09:27

Record snow ..... wow!

see  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68137079  

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

Beautiful.

I long for such an event here in the UK.

Would be utter chaos 👍

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

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polarwind
05 February 2024 14:41:06
One to keep an eye on....

one inch of rain an hour for 24 hours!!!?

see - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68202944  

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

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Retron
05 February 2024 15:05:06

One to keep an eye on....

one inch of rain an hour for 24 hours!!!?  

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

I think they mean that within a 24 hour period, anywhere in the area could see rainfall rates of an inch an hour, not that they'll get that for 24 hours solid.

The precip chart (from the GFS) shows 5 or 6 inches as the absolute max, although even that is pretty noteworthy!

http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec1.png 

Leysdown, north Kent
polarwind
06 February 2024 11:14:28

I think they mean that within a 24 hour period, anywhere in the area could see rainfall rates of an inch an hour, not that they'll get that for 24 hours solid.

The precip chart (from the GFS) shows 5 or 6 inches as the absolute max, although even that is pretty noteworthy!

http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec1.png 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Thanks for your better observed info.

More on the event here -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68202944 

Some storm!

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

DEW
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07 February 2024 08:43:02
The cold weather is celebrating the Chinese New Year - in China, of course.

Some 255 cities across the country have seen days when average daily temperatures fall below 0C, far exceeding the conditions of previous years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-68224539 

War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

tallyho_83
12 February 2024 21:13:22
Nothing unusual but worth noting that it was 13 it 14c in NYC few days ago and now there could be a major winter storm and up to 8" of snow in NYC by tomorrow afternoon. 

https://www.accuweather.com/en/winter-weather/winter-to-return-with-a-vengeance-as-major-snowstorm-targets-northeast/1621200 

I guess this could blast up the jet and bring us more wet and windy weather. 

Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Magical Moon

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tallyho_83
13 February 2024 00:03:54
18z - Look @ The Mean snow depth for NYC tomorrow: 😲

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/ens_image.php?geoid=131181&var=203&run=12&date=2024-02-12&model=gfs&member=ENS&bw=1 

Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

tallyho_83
13 February 2024 00:47:08
Just love this forecast with weather involved in it and how passionate the presenter is: - re the nor-easter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWIiKWndu4Q 

Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

tallyho_83
14 February 2024 01:55:26
Interesting report here following that Nor-easter and winter storm across eastern seaboard:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/winter-storm-hits-the-tri-state-see-impacts-across-the-region/5134393/ 

3.2" of snow fell in central park - Never realised, it was the most snow the BIG apple had seen in years!😲

Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

doctormog
14 February 2024 07:21:03

Interesting report here following that Nor-easter and winter storm across eastern seaboard:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/winter-storm-hits-the-tri-state-see-impacts-across-the-region/5134393/ 

3.2" of snow fell in central park - Never realised, it was the most snow the BIG apple had seen in years!😲

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Two years I believe.

Aberdeen

Current conditions (personal WS) 

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
14 February 2024 08:31:18
Hailstorm in the desert

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-68289580 

The video is not informative - just skip through the visuals

War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

Gavin D
15 February 2024 11:49:29
Austria is currently 6.8c above average for February bar an exceptionally cold second half of the month, they are on course to have their warmest February since records began 256 years ago in 1768.
Gavin D
27 February 2024 17:18:38
Dallas hit 94f yesterday, which was the third-hottest February day on record and the seventh-earliest 90-degree day.

16 states in the USA could see record-high temperatures today, with expectations they'll be 20 to 40 degrees above average.

GezM
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  • Advanced Member
27 February 2024 17:29:57

Dallas hit 94c yesterday, which was the third-hottest February day on record and the seventh-earliest 90-degree day.

16 states in the USA could see record-high temperatures today, with expectations they'll be 20 to 40 degrees above average.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

94C! Wow, that smashes the world record by about 40C . Now I know they are not exaggerating when they say it's been boiling hot. 

Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)

Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)

Gavin D
27 February 2024 19:34:48
232 temperature high records were set yesterday across the USA, with Killeen in central Texas the hottest, hitting 100F.
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DEW
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05 March 2024 07:34:35
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-68476139 

Pakistan: At least 35 die due to surprise snowfall

(seems to be hail as much as snow)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68460616 

US storm: Massive blizzard hits California and Nevada "More than 7ft of snow fell in parts of the Tahoe Basin"

Global warming being selective? One day these events may visit Britain

 

War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

polarwind
05 March 2024 12:50:36

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-68476139 

Pakistan: At least 35 die due to surprise snowfall

(seems to be hail as much as snow)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68460616 

US storm: Massive blizzard hits California and Nevada "More than 7ft of snow fell in parts of the Tahoe Basin"

Global warming being selective? One day these events may visit Britain

 

Originally Posted by: DEW 

How rare are these storms or how often might one reasonably expect similar storms to occur - one in ? years??

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
05 March 2024 13:30:00

How rare are these storms or how often might one reasonably expect similar storms to occur - one in ? years??

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

See http://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we17.php 

 

War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

polarwind
05 March 2024 14:40:50

See http://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we17.php 

 

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Thanks. Interesting. Several decades ago it was the outlook of the most climatologists and 'experts' that such weather would be a thing of the past  by now - not so it seems.
"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

Gandalf The White
05 March 2024 14:55:35

Thanks. Interesting. Several decades ago it was the outlook of the most climatologists and 'experts' that such weather would be a thing of the past  by now - not so it seems.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

I don’t recall reading any predictions for California?  After another virtually snowless winter for lowland England I would have thought the predictions were pretty good, as have been the prediction that our winters would become warmer and wetter.  Then there is the lack of snow and retreating glaciers across Alpine regions, also in line with climate change predictions.

But let’s focus on a freak snowstorm in a part of California…..

Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



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lanky
05 March 2024 15:09:02

I don’t recall reading any predictions for California?  After another virtually snowless winter for lowland England I would have thought the predictions were pretty good, as have been the prediction that our winters would become warmer and wetter.  Then there is the lack of snow and retreating glaciers across Alpine regions, also in line with climate change predictions.

But let’s focus on a freak snowstorm in a part of California…..

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Exactly so

Someone from our Met Office expressed this very neatly the other day when he said the global average temperature has risen by about 1C since the 1960's which is a huge change but the difference in maximum temperatures from day to day even in a temperate climate like the UK can vary by as much as 15C in an average winter. This is the difference between weather and climate

 

Martin

Richmond, Surrey

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