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Jiries
17 December 2022 21:21:27

The rain was quite well modelled by most of the 00z runs. Have you checked?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



Joe said he got more than expected and yes saw the charts from Midlands Group and it look very small precips mean short time like showers length.
Zubzero
18 December 2022 00:20:25
The sign of the breakdown to the SW approaches on the radar
https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar 

Pity it's not going to bring a classic snow to rain breakdown for most, though that freezing rain in the meto warning for the north sounds nasty if it happens.  
Saint Snow
18 December 2022 17:36:02
There's no value in betting on a white christmas now. 

The only one that had any value (was offering 4-1 for Belfast Airport) has suspended its market. 

Bookies always want everything stacked in their favour. 

Martin
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richardabdn
19 December 2022 13:45:28
Wouldn't have minded some mild southwesterlies for a few days but more of the rank, suicide inducing S'ly/SE'ly poison that ruined the autumn makes my blood boil 🤢

Absolutely VILE day. I can't think of a single advantage this repulsive tripe has over what we've had. Not one. 

It's not any warmer in the house. If anything it's colder because of the wind and lack of sun. Also need lights on most of the day because it's so horrendously dull and gloomy.

Not only can I still not get out on my bike, but I can't even go for a walk at lunchtime because of the toxic rain that we've had far too much of this year and which I'm apoplectic with rage at having to endure more of 🤬

Awful, grim, bleak depressing crap that keeps you stuck indoors like a prisoner 😫

Absolute and utter filth with no redeeming qualities whatsoever 🤮
 
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Brian Gaze
19 December 2022 13:50:14
Enjoy the mild, windy and wet weather which has now returned. The only downside is I no longer have an excuse for not going for a run. 😁
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Mick Grinch
19 December 2022 14:01:58
I guess I must have messed up with the quotation thing... Anyway, it almost feels warmer outside than inside. What a difference a day makes!
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Saint Snow
19 December 2022 14:17:10
Even in the northern half of Scotland, the snow has almost gone. 

Scanning through the Traffic Scotland  webcams, along with those at the Glencoe  and Nevis  ski resorts, is depressing.

 

Martin
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Bolty
19 December 2022 15:01:34

I guess I must have messed up with the quotation thing... Anyway, it almost feels warmer outside than inside. What a difference a day makes!

Originally Posted by: Mick Grinch 



Definitely. Even with the rain it feels like we've flew forward to April today. Hard to believe a good part of the country was pushing minus double figures just a few mornings ago.
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Mick Grinch
19 December 2022 15:09:30
Nyet. I still can't work the quotation wotsit, Bolty, but I do know one thing: ridiculously mild winter weather is the next best thing to blizzards!
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Retron
20 December 2022 06:58:47
So, with the big day in sight, it's going to be 52 years on the trot since the last proper White Christmas here (and indeed, much of the SE of England).

I wonder if I'll ever see one before I die? I suspect not.

(There have been a couple of cases since then with widespread snow on the ground, or the odd flake amongst the rain, but a "snow falling, snow settling" event on Christmas Day is slowly passing out of living memory.)
Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
20 December 2022 07:45:11

So, with the big day in sight, it's going to be 52 years on the trot since the last proper White Christmas here (and indeed, much of the SE of England).

I wonder if I'll ever see one before I die? I suspect not.

(There have been a couple of cases since then with widespread snow on the ground, or the odd flake amongst the rain, but a "snow falling, snow settling" event on Christmas Day is slowly passing out of living memory.)

Originally Posted by: Retron 



I don't think we have had a proper snowfall on Xmas Day either certainly not that I can remember (born 84). 
2004 -close as we had a dusting but the NW got some heavy snow. 

However 2009 was magical as there was a heavy fall on Christmas Eve and 2010 had snow on the ground but only a few cm.  If it is thick on the ground on the Day I don't mind if it came the day before.

Last year it was Boxing Day Am that had a snowfall. 

There is a chance this year if the GFS is anything to go by.  30% maybe. 
 
Tim
NW Leeds
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Zubzero
20 December 2022 08:12:41

Nyet. I still can't work the quotation wotsit, Bolty, but I do know one thing: ridiculously mild winter weather is the next best thing to blizzards!

Originally Posted by: Mick Grinch 



Click on the 2 quotation marks "" next to reply. 
Tim A
20 December 2022 08:42:11

Nyet. I still can't work the quotation wotsit, Bolty, but I do know one thing: ridiculously mild winter weather is the next best thing to blizzards!

Originally Posted by: Mick Grinch 



I reality I don't actually mind ridiculously mild weather in winter as long as it is dry . One can go and enjoy the outdoors. 

Just don't like the look of it on the weather charts beforehand when it could be showing snow. 
Probably also from years of being on Weather Forums, the mild charts are associated with irritating words like 'horror show' 'blowtorch' and 'BBQ time' etc when it reality they are not a horror show and certainly it is never BBQ weather in Winter no matter what the synoptics. 
 
Tim
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MRazzell
20 December 2022 09:33:01
Although the snow and ice was great this return to mild conditions has been most welcome to me from a heating perspective. I struggled to get my home above 15c last week with the heating blaring! Now we're back to a comfortable 18-20c indoors and much the better for it.

Contrary to most of the snow fanatics here (me included to a certain degree) I'd be happy with a decent run of mild daytime temperatures over the holiday season so nobody's holiday plans get scuppered by poor wintry weather, especially with xmas lockdowns still fresh in our recent memories. 

A little cold weather haiatus now please, followed perhaps by another go at the cold in a fortnights time.

(i'd much rather miss work thru snow than mums turkey dinner!)
Matt.
Tom Oxon
20 December 2022 09:49:04
Agree, white Christmas days are great if you're not going anywhere, otherwise unless snow has been around for a bit and the road is well gritted they could be a pain.
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LeedsLad123
20 December 2022 09:52:00

I don't think we have had a proper snowfall on Xmas Day either certainly not that I can remember (born 84). 
2004 -close as we had a dusting but the NW got some heavy snow. 

However 2009 was magical as there was a heavy fall on Christmas Eve and 2010 had snow on the ground but only a few cm.  If it is thick on the ground on the Day I don't mind if it came the day before.

Last year it was Boxing Day Am that had a snowfall. 

There is a chance this year if the GFS is anything to go by.  30% maybe. 
 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


None of my older relatives (even my gran who’s 83) can remember snow falling & settling on Christmas Day itself. It’s always been snow falling before Christmas, with snow on the ground on Christmas Day. Having snow falling & settling on Christmas Day must be very rare in lowland UK. 

2009 was great though, deep snow on Christmas Day with blue skies, a true Christmas Card scene. I was 22 at the time and had never experienced anything like it on Christmas Day. 2010 wasn’t quite as good, just a dusting here in the east of the city but with thick rime frost after a week of subzero highs. 
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
lanky
20 December 2022 10:11:26

None of my older relatives (even my gran who’s 83) can remember snow falling & settling on Christmas Day itself. It’s always been snow falling before Christmas, with snow on the ground on Christmas Day. Having snow falling & settling on Christmas Day must be very rare in lowland UK. 

2009 was great though, deep snow on Christmas Day with blue skies, a true Christmas Card scene. I was 22 at the time and had never experienced anything like it on Christmas Day. 2010 wasn’t quite as good, just a dusting here in the east of the city but with thick rime frost after a week of subzero highs. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 



In my neck of the woods (I lived with my parents in Bromley, Kent in those days) I remember one Christmas day when it snowed on the actual day and I would put it about 1970 from memory
 
Martin
Richmond, Surrey
Retron
20 December 2022 13:22:54

In my neck of the woods (I lived with my parents in Bromley, Kent in those days) I remember one Christmas day when it snowed on the actual day and I would put it about 1970 from memory
 

Originally Posted by: lanky 


Yes, it was 1970 - the last widespread "picture postcard" White Christmas. It had happened more frequenty in the previous 50 years too.

Part of it is just rotten luck with timing: the snow last week, even the brief dusting here, would have counted, and there was a spell in the 90s where there was snow just after Christmas.

The other part is that snow events just aren't as common as they used to be (for obvious reasons); the lack of deep cold easterlies over the past couple of decades has disproportionately affected the SE of England.
Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
20 December 2022 13:38:28
Have you notice after the boring 2 weeks bone dry spell the ground that not have rain drops on them get very wet everywhere once the mild air struck.  Went to Heathrow Terminal 5 bus stop and i notice it all wet inside and it well under cover.  I think the ground which was frozen dry became wet when mild air arrived.
Roger Parsons
20 December 2022 14:16:18

Have you notice after the boring 2 weeks bone dry spell the ground that not have rain drops on them get very wet everywhere once the mild air struck.  Went to Heathrow Terminal 5 bus stop and i notice it all wet inside and it well under cover.  I think the ground which was frozen dry became wet when mild air arrived.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



Absolutely! I went up our local church yesterday to lock up and I could not read any of their noticeboards for condensation. Wringing wet. The porch itself looked as if it had been power-washed! I went back up this morning with two towels to clear the boards. The towels were soaked.
Roger
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NMA
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20 December 2022 15:19:14

Have you notice after the boring 2 weeks bone dry spell the ground that not have rain drops on them get very wet everywhere once the mild air struck.  Went to Heathrow Terminal 5 bus stop and i notice it all wet inside and it well under cover.  I think the ground which was frozen dry became wet when mild air arrived.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



I visited a garage in Dorchester earlier and the floors and walls were dripping. It must the condensation forming on what are still cold surfaces I assume after the recent frosty spell.
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20 December 2022 15:26:00

I visited a garage in Dorchester earlier and the floors and walls were dripping. It must the condensation forming on what are still cold surfaces I assume after the recent frosty spell.

Originally Posted by: NMA 



At work we have a furnace room that is unheated and must be the coldest place inside on our entire site (oh the irony). Last Friday it was 0C in there. On Monday morning the place was dripping wet, the floor & walls were soaked and the metal railings on the tops of the furnaces were wet & slippery. Even today there were still small puddles on the floor.
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Saint Snow
20 December 2022 15:27:26
WRT snow falling and settling on Xmas Day, we had one day in the mid-90's, pretty sure 1996, when it was really cold but dry in the lead-up. Woke up Xmas morning to about 1-2cm of fresh, powdery snow on the ground with deep blue, cloudless skies and temps well below freezing. Apparently, a rogue shower had passed over the area during the night.

Then in 2004, we were in a cool NW'ly flow that, in the afternoon, packed in heavy snow and graupel showers. Was at my wife's cousin's - 14 of us including our 1 y/o - and a few of us went outide for a snowball fight with some of their neighbours. The snow got to around 5cm and froze; that night the roads were treacherous.

Had 2009 with snow accumulating in frequent showers through the week preceding (started on the Sunday previous - think the 19th?) so there was about 10cm on the ground come Xmas Day.

Then 2010, where the entire spell was bone dry here until the preceding Friday, when we had about 4 hours of heavy snow leaving 16cm. That was the first time we went out for a meal on Xmas Eve evening, into a country pub, and it was amazing - deeper there, too, at comfortably over 20cm deep. 

Only other time I remember snow on the ground on Xmas Day is 1981 following the big fall 1/2 weeks before.

The one box I really want to tick is snow from late afternoon/early evening on Xmas Eve, and continuing through the night. Arrive at the chosen country pub with a covering; leave with a few cm's. Would be really special, that one.

 

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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Jiries
20 December 2022 18:33:56
At least I am not alone seeing this unusual dampness because I never see like this before but might be common in the USA with 20C temps range in a day.  From -7C to 14C in Nuneaton that 21C range and this morning started to dry up a bit as the air are a bit drier and cooler than yesterday.
Saint Snow
20 December 2022 18:53:15
Not so much a whinge about the weather, but some members on here. The same people constantly posting miserable stuff that often has little basis in fact.

I'm going to ask Santa for some waders for Xmas, to enable me to wade through the patches of slurry in order to find useful posts from people who actually know what they're talking about and don't have a petty agenda they insist on ramming down everyone's throats.



 

Martin
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"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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