Zubzero
19 July 2022 23:29:51
At last temps finally starting to fall away as the wind swings round to the sw from a se it was for most of yesterday

Dropped to 24.5 from 27.4 half hour ago
bledur
20 July 2022 04:40:54

Met Office this morning??


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Highest maximum temperatureScampton39.9 °C
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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 04:55:08

Originally Posted by: bledur 


Met Office this morning??


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Yes I noticed that, looks like it could be an software error. As all the regions only have 39.9c as well. Appalling from the met office whatever the reason. Their online stuff is just crap at times.


 


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20 July 2022 05:16:32

Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Yep, raging fires in the news because of the dry conditions, lets send up some Chinese lanterns.


 





Chinese lanterns are a device for committing random arson.


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nsrobins
20 July 2022 05:29:29

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Yes I noticed that, looks like it could be an software error. As all the regions only have 39.9c as well. Appalling from the met office whatever the reason. Their online stuff is just crap at times.


 



Surely the reporting software isn’t capped at 39.9C? If it’s true then someone has had, as we say down here, a right mare.


The highlight for me was the sudden onset of the cooler airmass. At 5.15pm we went from 34.5C in a light SE to 26.5C an hour later in a gusty SW. Truely remarkable. 


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20 July 2022 06:05:49

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Yes I noticed that, looks like it could be an software error. As all the regions only have 39.9c as well. Appalling from the met office whatever the reason. Their online stuff is just crap at times.


 



Or is the 39.9 given as the highest simply the highest from a station under direct MetO control and/or with an automatic link to the reporting system? 


IIRC when Brogdale reported a record temp, the site had to be inspected and the equipment checked before the record was admitted, Brogdale being an agricultural research station not under the control of the MetO. Not sure what the situation is at Coningsby. EDIT - Google says it's an RAF station


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20 July 2022 06:08:54

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Just stepping back and reflecting for one moment.

40C is one of those things that you wonder might happen, but assume probably won’t. That it has happened now in 2022 is quite incredible.

I can’t think of any weather event or threshold in my adult life as important as this one: not the snow of 2010, or the record and 100F in 2003, or any storms, floods or droughts in the last 25 years, and we’ve had a fair few. This is so much further beyond the normal range than anything else I’ve experienced.

40C. 40C!

 Yes, I feel the same and being born in the 50’s, I’ve had a few years to experience weather events but reaching 40c certainly tops everything.  The snow of 2010 has now fallen to second place in my personal rankings!  It makes it all the more exciting to share it with other like minded people on here too!  


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20 July 2022 06:17:18

Originally Posted by: Caz 


 Yes, I feel the same and being born in the 50’s, I’ve had a few years to experience weather events but reaching 40c certainly tops everything.  The snow of 2010 has now fallen to second place in my personal rankings!  It makes it all the more exciting to share it with other like minded people on here too!  



Not even the winter of 62-63? That period of extreme weather lasted for 2 months, not 2 days.


But in your defence, I should mention that the 1947 winter, which happened for me at about the same age as you would have been in 1963,  doesn't figure as dramatically as 1963 when I was 20.


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Rob K
20 July 2022 06:19:57

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Or is the 39.9 given as the highest simply the highest from a station under direct MetO control or with an automatic link to the reporting system? 


IIRC when Brogdale reported a record temp, the site had to be inspected and the equipment checked before the record was admitted, Brogdale being an agricultural research station not under the control of the MetO. Not sure what the situation is at Coningsby.



No, because for the London and southeast region it gives Charlwood as the max at 39.9C but Heathrow is a regular on that page. It also quotes Kew Gatdens (which broke 40C) in the highest rainfall section!


 


what a cockup. I am sure they will fix it manually at some point today. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 06:20:30

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Or is the 39.9 given as the highest simply the highest from a station under direct MetO control or with an automatic link to the reporting system? 


IIRC when Brogdale reported a record temp, the site had to be inspected and the equipment checked before the record was admitted, Brogdale being an agricultural research station not under the control of the MetO. Not sure what the situation is at Coningsby. EDIT - Google says it's an RAF station



No lots of Met stations got 40c or over yesterday.  Heathrow,  St James's park,  Coningsby etc. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 06:23:36

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


No, because for the London and southeast region it gives Charlwood as the max at 39.9C but Heathrow is a regular on that page. It also quotes Kew Gatdens (which broke 40C) in the highest rainfall section!


 


what a cockup. I am sure they will fix it manually at some point today. 



It's a shambles,  but I suppose us weather geeks will be the only ones that notice/care.


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20 July 2022 06:24:03

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Surely the reporting software isn’t capped at 39.9C? If it’s true then someone has had, as we say down here, a right mare.


The highlight for me was the sudden onset of the cooler airmass. At 5.15pm we went from 34.5C in a light SE to 26.5C an hour later in a gusty SW. Truely remarkable. 



And doubly so as it happened with no more than a light shower or two. Give me back my thunderstorms


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20 July 2022 06:26:23

Originally Posted by: AJ* 


Chinese lanterns are a device for committing random arson.



I would assume that the destructive London fires yesterday that seemed to occur at around the same time were started deliberately.


We're not strangers to these kinds of events in Dorset with heath and grass fires quite common. The thing is today the fire service and police are quite good at getting to the seat of the fire and can often pinpoint the exact spot they began. And the cause. They have a wealth of knowledge gained over the years and I guess some of the experts from Dorset might be asked to come to Essex and do their forensics.


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Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 06:27:08

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


And doubly so as it happened with no more than a light shower or two. Give me back my thunderstorms



Yes the dryness of the breakdown is really odd , no rain here whatsoever. 


 


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Rob K
20 July 2022 06:45:39

Weybourne 21.1C min last night, notably warm but now just a footnote.

As I just saw on Twitter, half the replies to the Met Office extremes thread are from people saying “Rubbish, my garden was hotter!” And the other half are from people saying “Rubbish, it wasn’t that hot, why are you taking temperatures next to a runway?” šŸ˜


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20 July 2022 06:57:58

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Not even the winter of 62-63? That period of extreme weather lasted for 2 months, not 2 days.


But in your defence, I should mention that the 1947 winter, which happened for me at about the same age as you would have been in 1963,  doesn't figure as dramatically as 1963 when I was 20.


No, not even being up to my knees as a school girl in the snowy early 60’s. We got a lot of snow but maybe not as much as you did, whereas in 2010, we had more snow than most and were completely cut off!  It was up to my knees then too but as an adult!  


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20 July 2022 07:14:10

Originally Posted by: Caz 


No, not even being up to my knees as a school girl in the snowy early 60’s. We got a lot of snow but maybe not as much as you did, whereas in 2010, we had more snow than most and were completely cut off!  It was up to my knees then too but as an adult!  



It is quite possible your area has experienced  the highest UK temp and the deepest lowland snow in the last 30 years....


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Hungry Tiger
20 July 2022 07:24:32

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Anyone wake up this morning thinking what the hell happened yesterday. I’m still in shock with what we experienced.



 


Same here.


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Jason H
20 July 2022 07:28:58

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Weybourne 21.1C min last night, notably warm but now just a footnote.

As I just saw on Twitter, half the replies to the Met Office extremes thread are from people saying “Rubbish, my garden was hotter!” And the other half are from people saying “Rubbish, it wasn’t that hot, why are you taking temperatures next to a runway?” šŸ˜



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