Ally Pally Snowman
27 January 2021 19:15:37

Arguably the  best set of 12s of the entire winter with snowy sliders and then easterlies.  


Regarding the ECM the south is heading to the freezer if we could have seen day 11 onwards 


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Joe Bloggs
27 January 2021 19:15:38

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Is there no end to this easterly influence? The ECM seems to be on board for this scenario too. 



Big snow for Eastern Scotland & Glasgow if the latter stages of ECM verify. 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_240_2.png


If the showers line up well then Aberdeen would join the party too. There would be no rain. 


Frigid air spilling out of Scandinavia across the warm North Sea is one of the UK’s biggest snow makers, especially as showers filter up the Forth Clyde valleys. 



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Nick Gilly
27 January 2021 19:22:02

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


Look at that heat building over the Mediterranean. I'd say we southernmost southerners have more chance of tapping into that then sub -10C 850's from Scandinavia 



 


We'll probably end up with another 20C heatwave in February if that trend continues.

Heavy Weather 2013
27 January 2021 19:26:46
Time for Darren to roll out the ensemble watch again! Or maybe wait for the 0z lol
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Zubzero
27 January 2021 19:29:55

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


ECM has a big snow event M4 north upto Manchester across to Norwich 5cm to 15cm widely . Only 72h


 


 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=1&run=12&time=72&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref


 



One to watch that's for sure 


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/england/significant-weather/20210130-1200z.html

marco 79
27 January 2021 19:32:37
Gefs look potentially cold from around the 4th Feb..think personally this is a date to watch from there out...
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Ally Pally Snowman
27 January 2021 19:44:23

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


 


One to watch that's for sure 


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/england/significant-weather/20210130-1200z.html



 


Yes it's good for our bit of the world we deserve a bit of luck. It's quite marginal so no guarantees. 


 


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doctormog
27 January 2021 19:47:30

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Time for Darren to roll out the ensemble watch again! Or maybe wait for the 0z lol


If it helps there are 20 ensemble members that reach -10 (t850hPa) here on the latest GEFS suite. 

Some of the colder options are, wait for it, almost cold enough for snow here despite the easterly influence.  


Unfortunately the more extreme options are usually the less likely ones.


At a glance the ECM ensemble data seem quite supportive of the op run this evening


 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMAVGEU12_240_1.png 


JRobinson
27 January 2021 19:51:50

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


ECM has a big snow event M4 north upto Manchester across to Norwich 5cm to 15cm widely . Only 72h


 


 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=1&run=12&time=72&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref


 



 


How do you get to see precip / accumulations on that map?


I can only see options for 850s etc

Zubzero
27 January 2021 20:06:07

Originally Posted by: JRobinson 


 


 


How do you get to see precip / accumulations on that map?


I can only see options for 850s etc



Hello you can view the ECM precipitation charts and a lot more from here


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/united-kingdom/precipitation-1h/20210127-2100z.html

Ally Pally Snowman
27 January 2021 20:08:30

Originally Posted by: JRobinson 


 


 


How do you get to see precip / accumulations on that map?


I can only see options for 850s etc



 


Go to snow depth inches. Saturday afternoon . In change parameters. 


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/england/significant-weather/20210130-1200z.html


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Heavy Weather 2013
27 January 2021 20:23:29

Originally Posted by: marting 


ECM clusters have moved significantly towards easterlies tonight as have th3 15 day ensembles and wind directions


https://apps.ecmwf.int/webapps/opencharts/products/cluster_plot_legA?base_time=202101271200&cluster=264_360&parameter=1000


https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/charts/web/classical_meteogram?facets=undefined&time=2021012712,0,2021012712&epsgram=classical_15d&lat=53.2&lon=-2.91667&station_name=Chester,%20United%20Kingdom&altitude=12


Martin



I know Steve (Gusty)likes these charts and pays a lot of attention to them. He will be happy


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
picturesareme
27 January 2021 20:25:25

Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


 


 


We'll probably end up with another 20C heatwave in February if that trend continues.



Wouldn't put it past it.

The Beast from the East
27 January 2021 20:50:20

ECM ens mean. looksblocked



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The Beast from the East
27 January 2021 20:52:32

Well done to GEM for being the first to pick this up, of course it could all yet go wrong



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Rob K
27 January 2021 20:53:07

Originally Posted by: marco 79 

Gefs look potentially cold from around the 4th Feb..think personally this is a date to watch from there out...


I have been saying for a few days that if 4th Feb still looks cold by the end of this week then it could be game on. 


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White Meadows
27 January 2021 21:02:29

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


London does ok about  5cm ish obviously long way to go but good to see.


ECM has another big snow event at 144 this one further north from about Midlands north.


No, that’s cold but wet for London unfortunately.


we should be looking at consistency at 144 and watch for pressure dropping over the Med. I’m still holding out for a decent easterly 2nd week of Feb.

JRobinson
27 January 2021 21:50:59

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


 


Hello you can view the ECM precipitation charts and a lot more from here


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/united-kingdom/precipitation-1h/20210127-2100z.html



Thanks very much 👍🏼

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