As expected they have removed the coastal strip of Aberdeen from the SWW on Thursday although there is a suggestion in the wording of up to 30mm of rain to look forward to instead. Christoph still looks like bringing hazardous wintry conditions further inland with altitude up here.

Suspect rain here, it has been that sort of winter here...

I'll google it. 

It has been drier here than forecast so far, the band is further north I think, barely any rain for most of the morning. 

It has been drier here than forecast so far, the band is further north I think, barely any rain for most of the morning. 

It was very wet last night, but you're right that up to now today the main thrust of PPN is to our north. 

Keep an eye on that arm of PPN currently over North Wales, though. I'm hoping we benefit from a bit of a rain shadow effect here, but it could reform as orographic forcing kicks in as it reaches the south Pennines and Peak. 

Looks like a bit of a fail for the met office virtually everywhere under the amber warning are dry

?? The waning is valid till midday Thursday.

 

?? The waning is valid till midday Thursday.

I also thought it was a tad premature to call the warning a "fail" only 6 hours into the 18 hour warning period

This storm have no interest to me and just standard boring UK LP compare to Japan same set-up but brought severe snow storms and expected up to 40cm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55708417

Now that what you call it a proper winter storm.  Not sure why the drivers there are reckless and caused a 130 car pile up?  Perhaps they are not used to drive in snow storms before.  Any storms here never give 130 car piles up but much less in foggy conditions.

This storm have no interest to me and just standard boring UK LP compare to Japan same set-up but brought severe snow storms and expected up to 40cm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55708417

Now that what you call it a proper winter storm.  Not sure why the drivers there are reckless and caused a 130 car pile up?  Perhaps they are not used to drive in snow storms before.  Any storms here never give 130 car piles up but much less in foggy conditions.

Yes Jiries we can but dream of 40cm of Snow here in Warwickshire 

Snow and Ice warnings have been moved south from Aberdeen area to the Scottish borders this morning. 

Looking at rainfall forecasts, I'm surprised that Wales and thus the Severn valley later haven't been included in the amber weather warnings. FWIW Capel Curig in Snowdonia was the Meto's wettest place in the UK yesterday at 76mm before today's prolonged rainfall.

 

 

It was very wet last night, but you're right that up to now today the main thrust of PPN is to our north. 

Keep an eye on that arm of PPN currently over North Wales, though. I'm hoping we benefit from a bit of a rain shadow effect here, but it could reform as orographic forcing kicks in as it reaches the south Pennines and Peak. 

It did reach here in the end but I think today is going to be the worst day. Absolutely pouring down this morning. 

Snow and Ice warnings have been moved south from Aberdeen area to the Scottish borders this morning. 

Looking at rainfall forecasts, I'm surprised that Wales and thus the Severn valley later haven't been included in the amber weather warnings. FWIW Capel Curig in Snowdonia was the Meto's wettest place in the UK yesterday at 76mm before today's prolonged rainfall.

I imagine the logic is that the Welsh mountains can cope with much greater rainfall than the flatter and more populated parts of the country. Days of 75-100mm of rain are not too unusual there. 

Snow and Ice warnings have been moved south from Aberdeen area to the Scottish borders this morning. 

Looking at rainfall forecasts, I'm surprised that Wales and thus the Severn valley later haven't been included in the amber weather warnings. FWIW Capel Curig in Snowdonia was the Meto's wettest place in the UK yesterday at 76mm before today's prolonged rainfall.

That is actually a completely different warning. The original one for up here was changed (yesterday mowning) so that it now starts on Thursday (still rain here of course). The one across south Scotland was a new warning after snow has been more prevalent in that area than initially thought.

 

That is actually a completely different warning. The original one for up here was changed (yesterday mowning) so that it now starts on Thursday (still rain here of course). The one across south Scotland was a new warning after snow has been more prevalent in that area than initially thought.

Sorry, not looking far enough ahead so my remarks apply to today's chart of warnings. But revisiting that I notice that the Norther Isles have picked up a snow warming for today as well -not immediately visible when myinitial map is set to centre on the S Coast

 

I imagine the logic is that the Welsh mountains can cope with much greater rainfall than the flatter and more populated parts of the country. Days of 75-100mm of rain are not too unusual there. 

I agree that Capel is no stranger to 3" of rain - but that fell with another full day of rain to come, and of course what falls on saturated hills has no course other than to fill up the valleys soon after

 

Sorry, not looking far enough ahead so my remarks apply to today's chart of warnings. But revisiting that I notice that the Norther Isles have picked up a snow warming for today as well -not immediately visible when myinitial map is set to centre on the S Coast

Yes, I hadn’t spotted that either (although I think it is an ice warning?)

It certainly is a lively spell of weather, albeit unpleasant for many.