Roger Parsons
17 May 2020 12:13:05

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


My only remaining ambition in life is to outlive the b*stard (and spend a night with Kelly Brook)



Yes - that's probably the right way round, Beast, but either would probably be OK. It's the emotion that counts.


R.


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Heavy Weather 2013
17 May 2020 12:13:29
This is an horrific article.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/05/17/teaching-unions-betraying-children-claim-protect/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1589699944 

Who are they betraying. This language is just not helpful.
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Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 12:30:55

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

This is an horrific article.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/05/17/teaching-unions-betraying-children-claim-protect/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1589699944

Who are they betraying. This language is just not helpful.


Absolute arseholes.


I am sick to death of the right wing media in this country. Just f*ck off. 



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17 May 2020 12:36:39

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


Absolute arseholes.


I am sick to death of the right wing media in this country. Just f*ck off. 



Strong words Joe  


I agree entirely. There is a clear, biased and unfair agenda to these rags.


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Saint Snow
17 May 2020 12:36:54

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


Absolute arseholes.


I am sick to death of the right wing media in this country. Just f*ck off. 



 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 



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Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 12:54:21

Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


Strong words Joe  


I agree entirely. There is a clear, biased and unfair agenda to these rags.



I’m tired and grumpy . :D 


Excuse my French. 



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fairweather
17 May 2020 12:54:45

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Beat me too it! That really is a pathetic contribution which suggests that the author missed out on some much-needed education and lacks much awareness of how the world works. £127,500 per annum for school fees???? How truly imbecilic.



Well you are both wrong!! From the Eton website - it's not really that hard to fact check these days.


School Fee (payable on the first day of term by direct debit)

















Current school fee

£14,167 per half [i.e. term; there are three terms in a year]. Bursaries are awarded by the Bursaries Committee as soon as a boy has been offered a conditional place at the school, which is approximately 18 months prior to his joining the school. All bursaries are means-tested.


King’s Scholars

The maximum fee for King’s Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis).


Music Scholars

The maximum fee for Music Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis). 



Miscellaneous













Absentee Fee

£14,167 per half


Withdrawal without due notice fee

£14,167 per half



Extras





















Music

£320 per half for lessons totalling 30 minutes per week.


 

£480 per half for lessons totalling 45 minutes per week.


 

£640 per half for lessons totalling 60 minutes per week.


Other extras

School extras are billed in arrears and the level of charges varies depending on the activities a boy does while at Eton. Extras can vary greatly but are usually between £500-£1,000 per half. A full list of possible additional charges is sent to parents at the start of the academic year.



So with extras maybe £15,000 per half  team. So just the £90,000 per year then. So in my book that is imbecilic!


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Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 12:56:00

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 



Absolutely. 


The apathy towards the safety of our teachers, some of the most over-worked, underpaid, under-resourced people working in our society is absolutely shameful. 



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Bugglesgate
17 May 2020 12:59:35

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 



 


Williamson praised teachers yesterday for "doing the right thing".


A questioner challenged him  to come out openly and say he thought teachers   should  defy their union.  He swerved the question, but the inference was there.


My own reading of the situation is that the unions are not against  schools re-opening, just that it needs to be done safely for teachers and children.  The undue haste   with which the Govt. is trying to "steamroller" this though is a concern.  Especially as the BMA has now come out and backed the teachers unions.


 


 


 


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Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:00:01
Wales has reported 162 new cases and 12 new deaths
Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:02:08

NHS England has reported 90 new hospital deaths down from 181 yesterday


 


Las Sunday. NHS England reported 178 new hospital deaths 

Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:03:11
Scotland has reported 90 new cases and 9 new deaths
Joe Bloggs
17 May 2020 13:03:54

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

This is an horrific article.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/05/17/teaching-unions-betraying-children-claim-protect/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1589699944

Who are they betraying. This language is just not helpful.


Just going back to that headline. 


Unions are “betraying” children. What offensive, spiteful, callous language to use.


The vast majority of teachers (and by extension, union members), go into teaching because they love children, and  love seeing children develop, and learn. 

I despair. 


 



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Brian Gaze
17 May 2020 13:04:25

ST saying that about 30% of tests in the UK are giving false negatives. A potential disaster in the making if true.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/invasive-coronavirus-tests-fuelling-rise-in-false-negatives-6ctgwzzvg


 


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Gavin D
17 May 2020 13:06:21
All 90 deaths in England's hospitals were recorded within the last 5-day's
Gandalf The White
17 May 2020 13:07:17

Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


Well you are both wrong!! From the Eton website - it's not really that hard to fact check these days.


School Fee (payable on the first day of term by direct debit)

















Current school fee

£14,167 per half [i.e. term; there are three terms in a year]. Bursaries are awarded by the Bursaries Committee as soon as a boy has been offered a conditional place at the school, which is approximately 18 months prior to his joining the school. All bursaries are means-tested.


King’s Scholars

The maximum fee for King’s Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis).


Music Scholars

The maximum fee for Music Scholars is 90% of the current school fee (recipients can also apply for a bursary for the remainder of the fee on a means-tested basis). 



Miscellaneous













Absentee Fee

£14,167 per half


Withdrawal without due notice fee

£14,167 per half



Extras





















Music

£320 per half for lessons totalling 30 minutes per week.


 

£480 per half for lessons totalling 45 minutes per week.


 

£640 per half for lessons totalling 60 minutes per week.


Other extras

School extras are billed in arrears and the level of charges varies depending on the activities a boy does while at Eton. Extras can vary greatly but are usually between £500-£1,000 per half. A full list of possible additional charges is sent to parents at the start of the academic year.



So with extras maybe £15,000 per half  team. So just the £90,000 per year then. So in my book that is imbecilic!



ROFL. Were you skiving during maths lessons?


Llamedos said £42,500 per annum. 3 x £14,167 is £42,500.


The extras are, unsurprisingly, optional and e x t r a.


That’s a Fail I’m afraid. Back for the re-sit.


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bledur
17 May 2020 13:09:39

Probably a bit early for schools to return in any numbers for a while yet. Our 10 year old Grandaughter is greatly enjoying lockdown  school with only 3 or 4 other classmates

four
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17 May 2020 13:11:59

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


You can sense the anger that unions are still able to dictate to the posh, public school b*stards of a Tory government.




Why would Unions blocking government decisions be a good thing


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


They're desperate to keep us on the 'road back to normality' and schools returning is a major landmark in this. If schools cannot go back, then it helps maintain a 'stick with the lockdown' mentality amongst the general public. 




And why is this a bad thing.


Bugglesgate
17 May 2020 13:12:16

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


ST saying that about 30% of tests in the UK are giving false negatives. A potential disaster in the making if true.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/invasive-coronavirus-tests-fuelling-rise-in-false-negatives-6ctgwzzvg



Interesting !  My cousin's other half had all the symptoms of it and ended up in hospital for a protracted period  but tested negative.  My Cousin is a nurse and to say she was surprised by the test result would be putting it mildly !


 


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