I personally think Neil Ferguson should keep to consulting the government and have less of a media presence for a couple of weeks🤷‍♂️

There seems to be daily reports stemming from him (misinterpreted by media?) alternating between the optimistic and apocalyptic.

Exactly , seems a headline grabber to me 

 

Sorry, it is you that is 100% wrong.  You haven't bothered to consider the practical aspects of this.

Fact: the virus was in Wuhan by early December and some sources suggest November 

Fact: people were arriving in and leaving Wuhan throughout December, travelling widely to many other countries

Fact: people are contagious whilst still showing no symptoms and some never have clear symptoms

Fact: given the above three facts it is impossible to prevent the virus reaching the UK

Give it a break Gandalf, you cannot possibly win this argument - clearly restricting the movement of people, reduces the spread of the virus.

Otherwise, why would they be enforcing social distancing?

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/9a7d275e6a90-japans-coronavirus-bill-likely-to-clear-lower-house-on-march-12.html

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-travel-restrictions.html

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/index.html

 P.S. I have never argued that we could have "prevented the virus reaching the UK", but that travel restrictions would make it possible to contain the spread.

 

If you're on your own, it's 7 days. Perhaps he's ditched the toothpaste-squeezer?

Isn't it possible to get toothpaste placed onto one's toothbrush whilst remaining two metres away?  Or maybe he has a supply of pre-loaded toothbrushes?

😉

 

Give it a break Gandalf, you cannot possibly win this argument - clearly restricting the movement of people, reduces the spread of the virus.

Otherwise, why would they be enforcing social distancing?

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/9a7d275e6a90-japans-coronavirus-bill-likely-to-clear-lower-house-on-march-12.html

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-travel-restrictions.html

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/index.html

 P.S. I have never argued that we could have "prevented the virus reaching the UK", but that travel restrictions would make it possible to contain the spread.

LOL. Give it a break??? Really?  Follow your own advice.

Lord Sumption has just helpfully suggested on R4 that the distancing measures and lockdown are the result of mass hysteria, anyone's opinion is better than a scientist's and that we should all go back to our normal daily lives.

Him and Peter Hitchens (who had one of his rabid rants, labelling the lockdown measures as the imposition of a 'Stasi state') could have a cosy chat (by video link...) about it, and about their antithesis towards human rights legislation. 

 

LOL. Give it a break??? Really?  Follow your own advice.

Trust me Gandalf, on this topic I am right and you are wrong.

It is so obvious, that anybody can see the truth of it, with a few exceptions.

Overall the most positive day of the outbreak, with the virus under control in many countries and infection rates falling across Europe

Charles and Boris both recovered, so the plebs can see this is not that serious for 95% and only a small number die

The pressure will now ramp up to return to normal life. Trump wants to lift the lockdown on April 30. I think that is a good compromise. We should do the same 

One more month of this is just about tolerable, but no more

I think Boris can celebrate his wedding in June with a large crowd and the whole nation will salute him.  

 

Trust me Gandalf, on this topic I am right and you are wrong.

It is so obvious, that anybody can see the truth of it, with a few exceptions.

Well, when you manage to confuse social distancing and closing borders I think you need a pause for reflection.

You were calling for restrictions when, as I keep trying to explain to you, it was already too late.  That was my main point and has been consistently.

The government have said this morning on Sky News that we are right at the top of league table in regards to testing.

She also stated we are planning to get to 25,000 tests a day in the next three weeks.

Why are they lying.

They thought they'd concentrate on what they are best at?

 

Well, when you manage to confuse social distancing and closing borders I think you need a pause for reflection.

You were calling for restrictions when, as I keep trying to explain to you, it was already too late.  That was my main point and has been consistently.

Closing borders is a form of social distancing - nothing confusing about that.

The restrictions would not have kept it out completely, but would have rendered containment possible.

Your favourite destination appears to appreciate that:

Here you go - couple of articles in the Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/29/michael-gove-accuses-china-hiding-true-scale-coronavirus-crisis/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

"The initial reporting from China was "not clear" about the scale or the infectiousness of Covid-19, Mr Gove said.

China’s failure to give “clear” information about the spread of the coronavirus has been blamed for worsening the spread of the disease amid a growing diplomatic row with Beijing.

Michael Gove said China had not shared accurate data about the “scale, nature and infectiousness” of the disease, as Downing Street sources suggesting the Communist superpower would face a “reckoning” when the pandemic is over.

..."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/herd-immunity-way-impasse/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

"Herd immunity is the only way out of this impasse

Just over two weeks ago Patrick Vallance told the Today programme that the government’s strategy for fighting the Covid-19 outbreak was built around herd immunity. This is a tried and tested method for managing outbreaks of infectious disease: once a sufficiently large proportion of the population has some form of immunity, acquired either through vaccination or surviving a disease, it becomes impossible for it to spread. Herd immunity worked for smallpox and it worked for measles - or at least it did until the anti-vaxxers decided that they would exercise their freedom of choice by refusing to immunise themselves or their children.

The problem with herd immunity acquired through infection is that it comes at a price: namely that, in this first epidemic (and be in no doubt that this is not the only outbreak of Covid-19 that we will endure), the disease runs riot and the mortality is substantial. A large number of at-risk people will die while the rest of..."

Michael Gove said China had not shared accurate data about the “scale, nature and infectiousness” of the disease, as Downing Street sources suggesting the Communist superpower would face a “reckoning” when the pandemic is over.

Oh the irony - from the brain dead idiot who doesn't trust experts!

Dominic cummings has it.

I suspect he would be in the higher risk group given he has comorbidities of some type.

 

As one wit on Twitter said: so much for turd immunity. 

Lord Sumption has just helpfully suggested on R4 that the distancing measures and lockdown are the result of mass hysteria, anyone's opinion is better than a scientist's and that we should all go back to our normal daily lives.

“The name’s Sumption... Ass Sumption”  

 

As one wit on Twitter said: so much for turd immunity. 

The BBC documentary about him was superb. He is a genius and the master of the slogan - "Take back Control". "Get Brexit Done", "Whatever it takes" "Stay home, save lives, protect the NHS"

Plebs can only understand the most simple messaging, and he knows this

Saint Martin (Dutch dependancy in the Caribbean) reports first Covid death

Saint Martin (Dutch dependancy in the Caribbean) reports first Covid death

 

Michael Gove said China had not shared accurate data about the “scale, nature and infectiousness” of the disease, as Downing Street sources suggesting the Communist superpower would face a “reckoning” when the pandemic is over.

 

Are we going to cancel the "Who are we" contract and stop them building power stations and HS2?

Of course not. 

Obviously 'essential' means different things to different people. I have just returned from Weymouth after fitting new tyre and buying essentials at ASDA. First time out since last Monday.

On the way back passed someone towing a speedboat to who knows where.

Nick

The purpose of the journey is irrelevant. I do not know why they are emphasizing essential. If you take a non-essential ride in your car towing a speed boat and don't come into contact with anyone how does that spread the virus? It's not a ban on enjoyment it's a ban on social contact!! And hopefully fitting a tyre didn't involve any close contact during payment etc?