Any hooter I will be out f my PJ's Tonight. !!!

 

Steady on, Art!

 

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Is this where we have model output discussion as I can’t seem to find the thread? 

 

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January is by far the worst month of the trio of horrors that make up what is now the most dismal and worthless season of the year. The situation can be summed up in that we can’t get decent mild and can’t get decent cold either. There just isn’t anything on offer that any weather enthusiast would find appealing. Relentless mind-numbing blandness that sucks the life out of you

Today was forecast to be 15C but the reality was more gloomy overcast skies, a stiff unpleasant wind and drizzle. Wore a woolly hat to go out at lunchtime. It felt simply vile and nowhere near even the 11-12C the thermometer recorded. Then long after the sun has set the temperature keeps rising up to a ridiculous 13.6C at 6:30pm with the hideous wind still rattling away. Complete and utter garbage. Having the highest temperature recorded in darkness used to be uncommon and would be associated with a milder air mass moving in. Now it happens day after day after day. Absolutely no concept of normal diurnal range any more

We just can’t get the sort of spring-like conditions we used to get frequently with very mild weather in the late 80s, 90s and 2000s any more than we can get the heavy January snowfalls that typified the 1978-87 period.  It’s just eternal autumn filth. One day I remember, in particular having glorious mild sunny weather, was Monday 13^th January 1997. 15C with lots of sun and blue sky and people were saying it almost felt like summer. Happened a lot in the 90s but never any more. Also 26^th January 2003 which was warm and sunny enough to sit out in the garden. Can’t really remember any days like that in January since 12^th Jan 2007 and 27^th Jan 2008. Ever since then the mildest weather has always been repugnant like today.

​The snow situation just gets more and more desperate with each passing winter. There has not been a single day of lying snow since 4^th February 2019 and only eight days with snow or sleet falling since then, all during either Spring or Autumn months including two days in May 2019. So awful it’s beyond parody and even worse only three nights in this sorry excuse for a winter have been colder than the coldest night of the warmest May on record (2018)

Just two days in the disgusting first week of 2020 have managed as much as 25 minutes of sun and, apart from the frost on the 1^st, it hasn’t dropped below 3C. It’s a total disgrace and undoubtedly one of the worst starts to a year but pales into insignificance when compared with some of the abject horror we have endured over the past decade. Here I am thinking of the first week of 2016 in particular, though it could at least be argued that the phenomenal amount of rain experienced then provided some interest.

Nothing about this most tedious of winters could invoke even a semblance of interest or excitement 

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We managed 14c here in Exeter so exceptionally mild but wind was strong so didn't feel it.

Just had a look at the 18z GFS model output and the outlook is still dire beyond belief.

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Very mild and spring-like again here this morning. Lawn turning into a jungle.

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I think this is now the point where this has become the worst winter I've experienced. It's just unrelentingly dire 

This stage of January 2014 had just seen a five day dry spell whereas it's a struggle to get even five dry hours in this horror show. Rained yesterday evening when it wasn't supposed to and raining yet again today when the NE was forecast to stay dry 

Even by this stage of 2015/16 the future was looking brighter and we ended up with a frosty but not snowy second half of winter. There is just no end in sight to this ludicrous garbage.

It's just the same unbelievably dire and mind-numbing rot over and over again. Not a single decent Saturday this winter - just the same tedious soul destroying grey muck week in week out. Only one Saturday so far has managed even 20 minutes sun. As grim as anything I can ever remember.

Starting to wonder if we'll even see a flake of snow never mind a covering. It's beyond abysmal - just the absolute nadir for weather observing in this country. I can't even be bothered to update my spreadsheets any more 

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Very mild and spring-like again here this morning. Lawn turning into a jungle.

Yes, same here. I've been pulling brambles for a while (stopped as one whacked me in the face and I had to clean up... ouch!) and while I was out there, aside from the gloom, it was like a spring day. Birds singing, several insects around, daffodils in bud...

The lawn hasn't stopped growing this "winter"; I mowed it 4 weeks ago and it really needs doing again. I'm going to try and put it off a fortnight, though, as it seems faintly daft to have to regularly mow the lawn through winter!

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I've forgotten whether today is supposed to be one of the slightly mild, mild, very mild or uber mild days. A glance at my weather station tells me it is currently 9.5C. Looking out of the window tells me it is overcast. Gruesome.  

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Endless westerly garbage goes on and on, everything not tied down has blown down, drops of rain even when the sky is occasionally blue, probably blown from the Cheviots. Crazy mild but who wants to go out into a rain blasted gale. At least yesterday we had a brief respite, and about 5 minutes worth of frost in the early hours before you guessed it, that westerly got up!

One of the UK's premier ski runs.

https://www.cairngormmountain.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/webcams/fiacaillridge-full.jpg

Fiacaill Ridge more like Farcical Ridge.

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Very mild and spring-like again here this morning. Lawn turning into a jungle.

Ive noticed stuff starting to shoot up from the soil and also the first daffodils starting to appear yesterday.

 Ive noticed stuff starting to shoot up from the soil and also the first daffodils starting to appear yesterday.

Snowdrops are up and opening here. R.

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Even the most ardent Mildie must be finding this winter and the current outlook somewhat wearisome.

Nope. Now that it has dried out a bit in the garden I've spent several hours out there over the past few days, and very much enjoyed it - I'm glad to get out there because the weeds are shooting up all over the place, and I need to get on top of them.

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It's been so bad for so long that even the moaners can't be bothered to moan!

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I don't actually think it's been any worse a winter than a good proportion of winters I've endured from the late-80's onwards. Indeed, there've been some that I vaguely remember being worse, with temps consistently over 10c - including one in the late 90's were I was still having to cut my lawn well into December, such were the benign growing conditions throughout autumn into winter.

I mean, it'd still be in the "2/10" scoring category, but a lot of winters also fall around that score.

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I think this is now the point where this has become the worst winter I've experienced. It's just unrelentingly dire 

This stage of January 2014 had just seen a five day dry spell whereas it's a struggle to get even five dry hours in this horror show. Rained yesterday evening when it wasn't supposed to and raining yet again today when the NE was forecast to stay dry 

Even by this stage of 2015/16 the future was looking brighter and we ended up with a frosty but not snowy second half of winter. There is just no end in sight to this ludicrous garbage.

It's just the same unbelievably dire and mind-numbing rot over and over again. Not a single decent Saturday this winter - just the same tedious soul destroying grey muck week in week out. Only one Saturday so far has managed even 20 minutes sun. As grim as anything I can ever remember.

Starting to wonder if we'll even see a flake of snow never mind a covering. It's beyond abysmal - just the absolute nadir for weather observing in this country. I can't even be bothered to update my spreadsheets any more 

Havent' heard from you for a few days so hope you're feeling ok Rich?

Just utter cr4ppy weather here too! More wind and more rain! At least during the most zonal mild winters of 2013/14 and 2015/16 we had a few days of milder and drier weather with frost by night as well as colder incursions! It's just so rare how we could potentially go though 3 months of winter with EXACTLY the same weather pattern with absolutely no pattern change at all. Just crazy.

Everyone is just so fedup with rain rain rain and more P!ssing rain - as if we haven't seen enough rain throughout October, November, December and January (so far)- we get a lot more and as for this dry spell - well it's a 2-3 day wonder really and even this won't bring us any cold at all maybe nighttime lows of 3 or 4c and that's it. GFS models want the flatten the ridge so quickly.

Oslo can't even get snow and there have been no ice days in Moscow either when the average should be -6c for January. They have had some wet snow events and a lot of sleety stuff but nothing MUSCKOVITES could call wintry.

Weather for Oslo: - Just look how warm it is

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3143244

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Summed up global warming ... surely?
Here in Fulham I do not believe the temperatures have dipped below zero at all so far this winter and spring flower shoots are appearing everywhere

For sale. In good working order. All offers considered. pic.twitter.com/ms0pVKVEXg

— TheWeatherOutlook (@TWOweather) January 14, 2020

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So far this month, we still haven't seen as much a single flake of snow as has been the case throughout this winter.

In addition to that, a total of just 2 official air frosts have been recorded during this month at Edinburgh Gogarbank which is only 17.4% of the 1981-2010 January average for that particular station, despite the fact that we are almost half way through this month, and almost halfway through this winter.

That would normally be enough to moan about as it is, but I can a further statistic to that because today has ended up being our 7th completely sunless day of this month at Edinburgh Gogarbank and our 17th sunless day of this winter. This means that as far as this month is concerned, we have no sunshine at all during half of the total number of days which has passed so far.

In addition to that though, we have only had a total of 12.1 hours of sunshine during this entire month at Edinburgh Gogarbank and despite the fact that we are almost halfway through this month, that amounts to just over a quarter of the 1981-2010 January average for that particular station.

I know that days are now gradually getting longer but even when that is taken into consideration, this is still going to end up (just like last November) going down as a substantially duller than average month unless it gets a lot sunnier during the second half of this month.

I would say as well that given that this hasn't been a particularly wet month (although it has been wetter overall, than the same month during last year), that in addition to what I have mentioned above, has to be one of our most boring and uninteresting winters on record and in terms of us actually getting some winter weather, this has certainly been the worst ever winter which I can ever remember.

 

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Havent' heard from you for a few days so hope you're feeling ok Rich?

Just utter cr4ppy weather here too! More wind and more rain! At least during the most zonal mild winters of 2013/14 and 2015/16 we had a few days of milder and drier weather with frost by night as well as colder incursions! It's just so rare how we could potentially go though 3 months of winter with EXACTLY the same weather pattern with absolutely no pattern change at all. Just crazy.

Everyone is just so fedup with rain rain rain and more P!ssing rain - as if we haven't seen enough rain throughout October, November, December and January (so far)- we get a lot more and as for this dry spell - well it's a 2-3 day wonder really and even this won't bring us any cold at all maybe nighttime lows of 3 or 4c and that's it. GFS models want the flatten the ridge so quickly.

Oslo can't even get snow and there have been no ice days in Moscow either when the average should be -6c for January. They have had some wet snow events and a lot of sleety stuff but nothing MUSCKOVITES could call wintry.

Weather for Oslo: - Just look how warm it is

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3143244

There’s no point in posting daily when it’s just the same utterly banal, excruciating and worthless non-weather over and over again

Sick to death of useless forecasters saying it will be a cold night ahead then the temperatures are shown and they are not remotely cold. Then worse still the temperature does not even drop as low as the forecast.

Last night a forecast min of 1C, which is average not cold, then it goes no lower than a mild 2.7C. Just another disgusting horrendous windy week which will complete a snowless first half of winter for only the fourth time in my life and one of those was last year. Apart from this winter having much more gloom, it is practically a carbon copy of last year’s write-off.

Other two were of course 1988/89 when there had been a 7cm snowfall in November, deeper than practically anything in the last seven years, and 2006/07 when there had been a prolonged cold and frosty period in late December that produced ice floes on the River Dee. That leaves only last year as bad at this point and the first lying snow came on 17^th January. No sign of anything but more turgid coma-inducing rot on the horizon this year though

Practically nothing even as far inland as Braemar either. Looks like they got a dusting today which is the first lying snow since mid-December there. Probably have to go all the way back to 1933/34 to find an autumn/winter season so devoid of even basic wintry weather. No snow until 26^th February during that winter of mind-numbing bland nothingness and will probably be the same this year though wouldn't surprise me if it goes one step further and we get nothing whatsoever 

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