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Caz
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20 May 2019 08:34:59


I'm surprised the MetO are making a prediction like this at this time tbh. Have they forgotten what happened in 2009 when they predicted similar weather for that summer?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

It’s just the Mirror’s interpretation of what the Met Office are saying David!  It sells newspapers!  Pinch of salt needed!  


Note the Mirror article also says, John Hammond and Brian Gaze are forecasting a good summer!  Are you Brian?  


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lanky
20 May 2019 08:39:59


UK weather: Brits to bake in one of 'hottest summer's ever' starting with 30C June


The Met Office has predicted there are likely to be "above average temperatures" from June to August


Britain is set to bask in its hottest summer ever as forecasters predict a three months of sizzling temperatures. By mid-June it is expected the mercury will have soared to 30C - making way for similar highs that we saw last year. The hottest day was in July when temperatures reached 35.3C in Faversham, Kent. The Met Office has predicted there are likely to be "above average temperatures" from June to August, raising hopes that we could see another scorching summer.


Highs of 30C next month amid tropical air were forecast by ex-BBC and Met Office forecaster John Hammond of weathertrending and The Weather Outlook forecaster Brian Gaze.



 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-brits-bake-one-16168713?_ga=2.247569924.2035330500.1558337646-1108786294.1558337646


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


This article seems to be based on the MetO Contingency Planners Forecast for May-July issued at the end of April


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/forecast-temp-mjj-v1.pdf


A 45-50% chance of the MJJ UK Average Mean Temp being in the top 20% of MJJ's in the 1981-2010 average is predicted and only a 5% chance of MJJ being in the coolest 20% of 1981-2010 MJJ's


However, in context about half the MJJ's between 2004 and 2018 have been in this category and in fact the prediction is for the average being well below that for 2018


The Mean UK MJJ prediction for 2019 on this forecast is about 13.3C compared to about 14.7C for 2018


 


Martin
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Gavin D
20 May 2019 11:59:20

Saturday 25 May - Monday 3 June


On Saturday, much of the UK may well start dry, until rain reaches western areas later in the day. Showers or perhaps longer spells of rain are likely on Sunday and Bank Holiday Monday in some areas, along with some stronger winds at times. However, most areas will see dry and fine weather for part of the weekend. Temperatures are likely to be a little below average for the time of year. The changeable and rather cool weather is likely to continue through the half term week. There will be showers or longer spells of rain at times, including the odd heavy or thundery shower. However, there will be some dry and bright spells too.


Tuesday 4 June - Tuesday 18 June


There are only weak weather signals for the first half of June so we can expect a mixture of dry settled periods and changeable spells. In general, drier and less windy weather is more likely across northern parts of the UK, though southern areas can expect some of these quieter spells too. These periods of drier and settled weather will be punctuated by cooler, showery spells as Atlantic weather systems arrive from the west. In the absence of any strong signals, temperatures are forecast to be close to normal for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

David M Porter
20 May 2019 15:04:23


It’s just the Mirror’s interpretation of what the Met Office are saying David!  It sells newspapers!  Pinch of salt needed!  


Note the Mirror article also says, John Hammond and Brian Gaze are forecasting a good summer!  Are you Brian?  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Good point Caz. I'm sure the MetO have not forgotten their infamous prediction in 2009 and what really happened, so as you say it's very likely just the Mirror trying to sell papers, just as they all do.


As far as I know, Brian doesn't usually issue his seasonal forecasts until the last day or two of the preceding season, so I imagine his summer forecasr will probably appear towards the end of next week.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gavin D
21 May 2019 08:04:45

AccuWeather's summer forecast.


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Gavin D
21 May 2019 12:19:58

Sunday 26 May - Tuesday 4 June


Showers or perhaps longer spells of rain are likely on Sunday and Bank Holiday Monday in some areas, along with some stronger winds at times. However, most areas will see dry and fine weather for part of the weekend. Temperatures are likely to be near the seasonal average for many, but cool in any rain. It is most likely to be driest in the southeast, where it will be locally warm. The changeable and rather cool weather is likely to continue through the half term week. There will be showers or longer spells of rain at times, including the odd heavy or thundery shower. It will be windy in the south, especially at first, with some heavy rain possible. However, there will be some dry and bright spells too.


Wednesday 5 June - Wednesday 19 June


There are only weak weather signals for the first half of June, so we can expect a mixture of dry settled periods and changeable spells. In general, drier and less windy weather is more likely across northern parts of the UK, though southern areas can expect some of these quieter spells too. These periods of drier and settled weather will be punctuated by cooler, showery spells as Atlantic weather systems arrive from the west. In the absence of any strong signals, temperatures are forecast to be close to normal for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
22 May 2019 11:36:12

Monday 27 May - Wednesday 5 June


Showers or perhaps longer spells of rain are likely on Bank Holiday Monday in some areas, along with blustery winds at times. The rain is more likely in the north, but still there is a chance of the odd shower in the south, amongst some sunny spells. Temperatures are likely to be near the seasonal average for many, but cool in any rain. It is most likely to be driest in the southeast, where it will be warm in some places. The changeable and rather cool weather is likely to continue through the following week. There will be showers or longer spells of rain at times, including the odd heavy or thundery shower. However, there will be some dry and bright spells too.


Thursday 6 June - Thursday 20 June


It is too early to give much detail for this period, but the first half of June is likely to be a mixture of dry settled periods and changeable spells. In general, drier and less windy weather is more likely across northern parts of the UK, though southern areas can expect some of these quieter spells too. These periods of drier and settled weather will be mixed in with cooler, showery spells as Atlantic weather systems arrive from the west. Temperatures are forecast to be close to the average for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
22 May 2019 14:32:39

Six-week SCORCH forecast to begin as tropical plume roasts UK


 

A SIX-WEEK scorching heatwave is forecast to begin with temperatures set to skyrocket due to tropical blasts.


 


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/780301/uk-weather-forecast-tropical-plume-hot-temperatures?fbclid=IwAR10kBkSAK8RIrbKNhVmBrF0jKMmf2s59is8QQoHvQfG1KoucFlHwZ0uDD0

Gavin D
23 May 2019 11:35:49

Tuesday 28 May - Thursday 6 June


Tuesday will see sunny spells and showers for many areas, the showers initially in the north and east, then developing widely through the day. Some showers will be heavy with thunder possible, merging into longer spells of rain in places. The showers then easing from the north later. It will be breezy with a risk of coastal gales in the southwest and northeast. Temperatures will be cooler than average and feeling colder in the breeze. The changeable and rather cool weather is likely to continue through the following week. There will be showers or longer spells of rain at times, including the odd heavy or thundery shower. However, there will be some dry and bright spells too.


Friday 7 June - Friday 21 June


The general trend for this period is currently for a more settled picture across the UK. However, there remains the potential for further areas of low pressure to bring spells of rain or showers at times with some stronger winds. Confidence is low by mid June but the most likely scenario is that overall more settled weather is likely to prevail. Temperatures will start a little below normal, slowly trending to normal of warm.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

moomin75
24 May 2019 07:24:42
Very disappointing update from John Hammond in his month ahead. Very cool and unsettled sums it up for much of June and possibly the summer.
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cultman1
24 May 2019 07:41:32
Moomin no one knows beyond a couple of weeks at most what summer will bring . John Hammond is not always correct either Let’s wait till we see what the Met Office and other professional bodies have to say .
moomin75
24 May 2019 07:58:22

Moomin no one knows beyond a couple of weeks at most what summer will bring . John Hammond is not always correct either Let’s wait till we see what the Met Office and other professional bodies have to say .

Originally Posted by: cultman1 


I agree, but talen in isolation it's a very disappointing forecast.


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David M Porter
24 May 2019 08:21:45

Very disappointing update from John Hammond in his month ahead. Very cool and unsettled sums it up for much of June and possibly the summer.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I haven't read John Hammond's forecast, but from what you say his forecast seems to be somewhat at odds with those of the MetO from yesterday which talked of increasingly settled weather for much of the Uk as we go further into June.


 


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gavin D
24 May 2019 12:34:07

Wednesday 29 May - Friday 7 June


Through the latter half of next week, there will be changeable weather with a mixture of sunshine and showers likely on most days, although there may be a few periods of longer lasting rain. The best of the drier and sunnier weather is likely to be in the south and east, although there is a chance of windier conditions in the south too. Into the following week, the weather may become more settled with high pressure more likely. This would bring mainly dry conditions, with sunny spells for most, although there may be more in the way of cloud and showers in eastern areas. Given generally low confidence in the forecast at this stage, there may also be some more changeable weather with cloud, wind and rain.


Saturday 8 June - Saturday 22 June


The general trend for this period is currently for a more settled picture across the UK. However, there remains the potential for further areas of low pressure to bring spells of rain or showers at times with some stronger winds. Confidence is low by mid June but the most likely scenario is that overall more settled weather is likely to prevail. Temperatures will start a little below normal, slowly becoming a little warmer.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
24 May 2019 12:35:20

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Changeable; turning breezy and cooler for a time


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Wednesday 22 May – Sunday 26 May


Mostly dry and rather warm, then wetter later.


Wednesday and Thursday will continue to see a lot of dry weather for many with spells of sunshine and gentle winds. However, the far north-east of Scotland will stay cloudier, cooler and breezy with rain at times. One or two showers cannot be ruled out elsewhere but most places will escape those. It will be quite warm, particularly in the south and east with highs into the low 20s Celsius for some. On Friday, spells of sunshine are likely to give way to a build-up of cloud for a time with showers spreading south-eastwards across the UK. However, the showers will be hit and miss with some places escaping dry again. This weekend the weather is likely to see a northwest-southeast split in the weather. The north-western half of the UK is likely to become cloudier and windier with outbreaks of rain, these perhaps most widespread on Sunday. Further south-east, it is likely to stay rather warm with sunshine at times but a few showers are likely as the weekend progresses.


Monday 27 May – Sunday 2 June


Breezy and showery at times. Rather cool.


Next week, the jet stream (a ribbon of strong winds in the upper atmosphere) is likely to make a reappearance over the UK, bringing more unsettled conditions from the Atlantic. It is likely to be a breezier and cooler week than this week with showers and occasional bands of rain moving from west to east across the country. Showers and rain are likely to be most frequent in the north and west. Southern and eastern areas of England should have some lengthier drier and brighter interludes of weather but with some useful rain there too. There is just a slight chance that high pressure moves in from the south-west later in the week to bring a lengthier drier and calmer period of weather then. Most likely, though, is for a rather showery, breezy and cool week.


Monday 3 June – Sunday 16 June


Slowly turning drier, calmer and warmer


The first full week of June is expected to see changeable weather conditions with some further bands of rain or showers spreading from the west at times. North-western areas of the UK are favoured to be wettest, including western Scotland, Northern Ireland and northwest England. Further south and east, there should be some decent periods of drier weather in-between the showers. By the second week of June, drier and calmer conditions are likely to become more widespread over the UK, thanks to an area of high pressure expanding northwards across Europe. It should turn warmer again with temperatures rising above the seasonal average at times. However, there is a chance that high pressure ends-up further north than expected, which could allow some showers, perhaps thundery, to move into southern areas at times.


Further ahead


Will the weather remain highly changeable from week to week with further swings between relatively calm and dry conditions and cooler, showery weather?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
24 May 2019 12:36:44

John Hammond's latest monthly outlook



  • Much cooler and wetter spell

  • More settled by mid-June

  • Prolonged heat unlikely


Full forecast as ever is here for subscribers* https://weathertrending.com/2019/05/24/john-hammond-month-ahead-summer-splash-sizzle/


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Gavin D
25 May 2019 09:22:21

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Cooler and wetter finish to May but turning warmer


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Saturday 25 May – Sunday 2 June


Wet and cool end to May, warmer in June


Despite a warm start to the weekend, a frontal system will move across the UK both Saturday and Sunday, bringing widespread outbreaks of persistent rain to Scotland, and a cold front will sharp showers for England and Wales on Sunday, and perhaps a rumble of thunder in the Southeast Sunday afternoon. From Monday low pressure will bring in cooler air from the north-northwest, so temperatures will drop down to a bit below average for late May through much of the working week. Monday and Tuesday look to be quite unsettled with plenty of showers and perhaps one or two thunderstorms in the afternoon. There will also be a few dry and bright spells mixed in.


Wednesday is expected to be marginally drier for most, except for some lingering showers in Scotland, and clearer skies will make for a chilly night. From Thursday and through the weekend, the pattern will gradually begin to shift again. A weak frontal system Thursday and Friday will bring some outbreaks of rain for most, but a high building into Central Europe should push this off to the north and replace it with drier and warmer air for southern areas. By Saturday and Sunday, the southern half of the country may see temperatures returning to near average with little rain, but the northern half will likely still be cooler and wetter.


Monday 3 June – Sunday 9 June


Warmer and drier, but some rain in places


As we head into the first full week of June, high pressure is expected to build strongly across Central Europe and into Scandinavia, bringing in warmer tropical air to the UK and pushing much of the rain off to the north. However, Scotland and Northern Ireland will likely still see showers and perhaps longer spells of rain at times as weak fronts pass through along the edge of the high around a low that is expected to linger near Iceland. For much of England and Wales, early June will be marked by mostly sunny and warm afternoons followed by dry, mild nights.


Temperatures are expected to climb a few degrees above average, so highs in the South in the mid-twenties are not out of the question. There is a risk, about 25%, that the high pressure centre will shift a bit too far to the east and end up over Eastern Europe and Russia. In this case, low pressure will be able to move in from the west, leading to a wetter trend. However, this will still likely be a warm pattern as south-westerly winds continue to bring in warmer and more tropical air.


Monday 10 June – Sunday 23 June


Staying warm but turning more unsettled


Moving into the second full week of June, the weather is expected to become a bit more changeable. The high pressure system in Central Europe is expected to continue slowly shifting northwards and eastwards into Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, and Russia. Confidence is growing in favour of a blocked pattern, where high pressure to the north will prevent Atlantic weather systems from moving in from the west. However, low pressure is expected to be to the southwest near Spain and France, so the main risk for showery weather will be in the Southwest and West and along the southern coast, with Scotland seeing a bit of a break.


There is a chance that a few of these rain events could bring in some rather heavy and widespread showers or thunderstorms from the continent, but there will also be some longer dry and sunny spells as well making for warm afternoons. With low pressure centres to the south and southwest, warmer Mediterranean air will find into way into the UK, so temperatures will likely stay fairly warm despite the increased risk for showers.


Further ahead


Will the high pressure build in strong for early June, keeping things mostly dry and quite warm, or are we in for a wetter start to summer?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
25 May 2019 12:09:21

Thursday 30 May - Saturday 8 June


On Thursday and Friday changeable, breezy weather is likely to prevail, with a mixture of showers and some longer spells of rain. However parts of the north will probably stay drier and brighter at first with only isolated showers. Into next weekend and the start of the following week, there is likely to be a change towards more settled conditions from the southwest. This would bring drier conditions with some sunny spells here, however showers or longer spells of rain may continue further north. Through the rest of the period confidence is low, and any more generally settled weather conditions may still be interspersed by occasional bouts of wetter and windier weather. Temperatures will start rather cool, but will soon recover to near or a little above normal.


Sunday 9 June - Sunday 23 June


Whilst confidence is low throughout this period, the most probable trend for the middle two weeks of June is for an increasingly settled weather picture across the UK. Whilst this may bring spells of dry and often sunny weather, warmer day time temperatures may occasionally trigger heavy, possibly thundery showers. However there still remains a risk of areas of low pressure bringing longer spells of rain across the UK at times, perhaps with some stronger winds. Temperatures will be near normal or warm overall for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
26 May 2019 11:56:38

Friday 31 June - Sunday 9 June


Cool in the north and still rather mixed for many on Friday, with cloud and rather humid conditions in central and southern areas will continuing to push northwards, accompanied by occasional rain and drizzle. Into the weekend, pressure is expected to build to the south or southeast of the UK, with any rain then becoming confined to northwestern areas and more in the way of dry weather establishing itself. For many parts into the following week, we should then see a fair amount of dry weather with some sunshine and the potential for temperatures to trend upwards, with increasingly warm conditions likely at times. However, during early June, there are also signals for occasional bouts of more unsettled weather, perhaps in the form of heavy thundery showers.


Monday 10 June - Monday 24 June


Whilst confidence is low throughout this period, the most probable trend for the middle two weeks of June is for a relatively settled weather picture across the UK. Whilst this may bring spells of dry and often sunny weather, warmer day time temperatures may occasionally trigger heavy, possibly thundery showers. However there still remains a risk of areas of low pressure bringing longer spells of rain across the UK at times, perhaps with some stronger winds. Temperatures will be near normal or warm overall for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
27 May 2019 12:17:20

Saturday 1 June - Monday 10 June


Next weekend will be much warmer than recently and locally very warm in the south and east where brightest conditions are likely. It could also be quite humid. Scattered thundery showers may break out, with cooler conditions spreading southeast to most parts by Monday. During next week, mixed conditions are likely across the UK, with a northwest/southeast split. Northern and western areas are likely to see more in the way of changeable possibly windy weather, with generally more settled conditions likely in the south and east. It could be quite warm at times in the southeast where there may be some heavy, thundery showers at times. Confidence in the forecast drops towards the end of next week but there is a possibility of more settled weather generally across the UK.


Tuesday 11 June - Tuesday 25 June


Whilst confidence is low throughout this period, the most probable trend for the middle two weeks of June is for a relatively settled weather picture across the UK. Whilst this may bring spells of dry and often sunny weather, warmer day time temperatures may occasionally trigger heavy, possibly thundery showers. However there still remains a risk of areas of low pressure bringing longer spells of rain across the UK at times, perhaps with some stronger winds. Temperatures will be near normal or warm overall for the time of year.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
28 May 2019 08:14:29

CPF May update


June to August


Temperature summary


For June and June-July-August as a whole, above-average temperatures are more likely than below-average temperatures. Overall, the probability that the UK-average temperature for June-July-August will fall into the coldest of our five categories is around 5%, and the probability that it will fall into the warmest of our five categories is between 45 and 50% (the 1981-2010 probability for each of these categories is 20%).


Full forecast: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/forecast-temp-jja-v1.pdf


Precipitation summary


For June and June-July-August as a whole, the chances of above- and below-average precipitation are similar. On balance, wetter-than-average conditions are marginally more likely. The probability that UK-average precipitation for June-July-August will fall into the driest of our five categories is between 15 and 20% and the probability that it will fall into the wettest of our five categories around 20% (the 1981-2010 probability for each of these categories is 20%).


Full forecast: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/forecast-precip-jja-v1.pdf

Gavin D
29 May 2019 12:26:45

Monday 3 June - Wednesday 12 June


Fresher conditions will become established across the UK during next week. Monday will see a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers, possibly merging to give some longer spells of rain, which may move east accompanied by some stronger winds. The remainder of the period looks set to stay cool and changeable, with further showers or longer spells of rain, which could be heavy in places, with thunder possible anywhere during this period. Drier and brighter interludes are also likely, with the bulk of the rain probably in the northwest. Temperatures will be mainly below normal, particularly in the northwest, but nearer normal in the east and southeast, where it could be warm at times.


Thursday 13 June - Thursday 27 June


Confidence is generally low through this period. The start of the period is likely to see a continuation of the cool and changeable conditions, with further showers or longer spells of rain, especially in the northwest. By mid-June there are indications of generally drier, more settled conditions being established across the UK. This change will be more marked across northwestern areas, following the changeable start to June. There are likely to be further changeable spells during the period, with a risk of thundery showers, more especially in the south. Temperatures will probably be above normal or warm overall for the time of year, with the warmest conditions most likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
30 May 2019 11:34:10

Tuesday 4 June - Thursday 13 June


Tuesday and Wednesday see fresher conditions established across the UK, with most places seeing showers or some longer spells of rain interspersed by bright or sunny spells. The bulk of the rain will probably be in the northwest and here temperatures will be below normal, and it will be windy at times. The best of any sunnier periods will be across the southeast, where it may still become warm at times. These conditions are expected to continue through much of the rest of the period, with further showers or longer spells of rain which could be heavy in places, and with thunder possible anywhere. Towards the middle of the month some drier and more settled conditions may begin to become established across the UK.


Friday 14 June - Friday 28 June


Confidence is generally low through this period but it is likely that drier and more settled conditions will become more widely established across the UK. This change will be most marked across northwestern areas following the changeable start to June. However all parts are still likely to have further changeable spells through the rest of the month with a risk of thundery showers, more especially in the south. Temperatures will probably be above normal or warm overall for the time of year, with the warmest conditions most likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
31 May 2019 08:27:16

John Hammond's latest monthly outlook



  • Cool and showery next week

  • Drier and warmer mid-June

  • Prolonged heat unlikely


Full forecast as ever is here for subscribers* https://weathertrending.com/2019/05/31/john-hammond-month-ahead-brief-encounters/


*Subscription is free but you must sign up to view

Gavin D
31 May 2019 12:26:03

Wednesday 5 June - Friday 14 June


Wednesday should see a continuation of the fresher weather regime across the UK, with showers or some longer spells of rain, as well as some drier, brighter interludes. The bulk of the rain will probably fall in the northwest and here temperatures will be below normal. The best of any sunnier periods will be across the southeast, where it may still become warm at times. It may also become windy in places. These conditions are expected to continue through early June, with further showers or longer spells of rain, which could be heavy in places with thunder possible. Towards the middle of the month some drier and more settled conditions may begin to become established across the UK.


Saturday 15 June - Saturday 29 June


Confidence is generally low, but by mid June there are indications that generally drier and more settled conditions will become established across the UK. This change will be most marked across north and northwestern parts of the UK which are likely to have experienced quite changeable weather through the first part of June. Despite the generally more settled conditions there is still a risk for further changeable spells bringing a risk of thundery outbreaks, these most probable across southern parts. Temperatures will likely be somewhat above average with the warmest conditions likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

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