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Gavin D
26 January 2019 10:56:35

Next week

Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Milder to end the week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899

doctormog
26 January 2019 11:09:06

Next week

Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Milder to end the week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

It was interesting to see the synoptics chart for Thursday and Friday as it appears to have been based on yesterday’s 00z ECM op run (of if not something exceptionally similar), which was already out of date when that forecast was published.


tallyho_83
26 January 2019 12:05:57

 

 

As I've said about a million times the timestamp is NOT to be looked at for the 6 to 30 day forecast it is a long-standing bug within the met office website the timestamp only works for the UK and regional 5-day forecasts

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

So really they'd ought to ditch the time stamps to solve confusion i think!?


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Gavin D
26 January 2019 12:23:07

 

So really they'd ought to ditch the time stamps to solve confusion i think!?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

 

I wish they would tbh even the new website they're working on isn't any better with regard to the timestamp

Gavin D
26 January 2019 12:24:52
UK Outlook for Thursday 31 Jan 2019 to Saturday 9 Feb 2019:

A widespread frost to start on Thursday, before cloud and outbreaks of rain, sleet and snow pushes slowly east or northeast, with some uncertainty. Friday will perhaps see further spells of rain and snow, before clearer, colder weather sinks south again across all parts. By the weekend, it looks like staying unsettled, with further spells of rain, sleet and snow, interspersed by brighter and showery interludes. It will be windy at times, with the risk of coastal gales. There is still a chance that even colder conditions may develop as we go through the early part of February with an east or northeasterly flow dominating, which could bring an increased possibility of disruptive snow in places.

UK Outlook for Sunday 10 Feb 2019 to Sunday 24 Feb 2019:

Cold or very cold conditions are likely to dominate the weather throughout this period, with a greater than average chance of easterly or northeasterly winds dominating. This would bring an enhanced risk of snow, as well as widespread and occasionally severe frosts, although the exact details remain very uncertain. In this setup, the driest and brightest weather is likely in the north and northwest. Despite the prevalence of cold weather, occasional milder interludes remain possible, most likely in the south, although the incursion of these introduce a significant risk of snow should very cold conditions become established.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Whiteout
26 January 2019 12:26:29

Wow, Met stays cold 


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Gooner
26 January 2019 12:32:35

They really must be seeing something 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Arcus
26 January 2019 12:37:14

They really must be seeing something 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

...Bop bop shoo be doo wah...

 

That second para really hasn't changed much at all for a while now.


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JACKO4EVER
26 January 2019 13:23:44

They really must be seeing something 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

yes, a groundhog 

doctormog
26 January 2019 13:29:06

 

yes, a groundhog 

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

I saw one of those in Pennsylvania last year and I can assure you it looked nothing like that forecast. 


JACKO4EVER
26 January 2019 13:36:19

 

I saw one of those in Pennsylvania last year and I can assure you it looked nothing like that forecast. 

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

🤣

let’s hope for once their bullish update comes to some fruition 👍

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 13:36:52

 

 

I wish they would tbh even the new website they're working on isn't any better with regard to the timestamp

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?


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tallyho_83
26 January 2019 14:02:12

Next week

Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Milder to end the week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

That was yesterdays - i was watching that and like what? it's Friday!?

This is way more accurate with the precipitation charts too. The BBC shows the South and SW mostly dry tomorrow in comparison with the Met OFFICE which show frequent showers:

 

https://youtu.be/SF-fntmpm3o

 


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Brian Gaze
26 January 2019 14:24:33

 

 

So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

I've asked the same question several times before. Unfortunately no one here seems to know. 


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doctormog
26 January 2019 14:53:06

 

I've asked the same question several times before. Unfortunately no one here seems to know. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I am sure I answered that before. As far as I know the 5-16 day forecasts are updated daily some time between 11:30am and 1:30pm on some versions of the site but admittedly the time stamps really do not help and they seem to update later on my iPad.

No, that is not logical nor does it make sense, so don’t ask me why! 


Gavin D
26 January 2019 18:52:07

Next week

Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Less cold later

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899

Gavin D
26 January 2019 18:53:36

 

 

So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

 

Local and regional 5-day tends to update 3 to 4 times a day as per the timestamps

 

6 to 30 day updates once per day generally between 11am and 1pm

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 19:48:21

 

 

Local and regional 5-day tends to update 3 to 4 times a day as per the timestamps

 

6 to 30 day updates once per day generally between 11am and 1pm

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

So what I am getting at was today's update for instance was at 14:45 - that doesn't mean the text was updated then does it? Or judging by what you and DOC have said is that the text forecast was updated between 11am and 1pm? It's so confusing as it shows Updated 14:45 on Sat 26th Jan 2019 - when what it really means is published at that time - as 14:45  is not between 11am and 1pm. Sorryr I a being pedantic but it's relevant esp re the models I.E IF they are updated after the 00z runs or 06z etc...!? 

UK Outlook for Sunday 10 Feb 2019 to Sunday 24 Feb 2019:

Cold or very cold conditions are likely to dominate the weather throughout this period, with a greater than average chance of easterly or northeasterly winds dominating. This would bring an enhanced risk of snow, as well as widespread and occasionally severe frosts, although the exact details remain very uncertain. In this setup, the driest and brightest weather is likely in the north and northwest. Despite the prevalence of cold weather, occasional milder interludes remain possible, most likely in the south, although the incursion of these introduce a significant risk of snow should very cold conditions become established.

Updated: 14:45 on Sat 26 Jan 2019 GMT


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xioni2
26 January 2019 21:16:23

Some interesting footage from Turkey

 

Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:39:22

 

So what I am getting at was today's update for instance was at 14:45 - that doesn't mean the text was updated then does it? Or judging by what you and DOC have said is that the text forecast was updated between 11am and 1pm? It's so confusing as it shows Updated 14:45 on Sat 26th Jan 2019 - when what it really means is published at that time - as 14:45  is not between 11am and 1pm. Sorryr I a being pedantic but it's relevant esp re the models I.E IF they are updated after the 00z runs or 06z etc...!? 

UK Outlook for Sunday 10 Feb 2019 to Sunday 24 Feb 2019:

Cold or very cold conditions are likely to dominate the weather throughout this period, with a greater than average chance of easterly or northeasterly winds dominating. This would bring an enhanced risk of snow, as well as widespread and occasionally severe frosts, although the exact details remain very uncertain. In this setup, the driest and brightest weather is likely in the north and northwest. Despite the prevalence of cold weather, occasional milder interludes remain possible, most likely in the south, although the incursion of these introduce a significant risk of snow should very cold conditions become established.

Updated: 14:45 on Sat 26 Jan 2019 GMT

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

 

The 14:45 update only updated the UK & regional 5-day forecast the 6 to 30 day is only once a day between 11am and 1pm. I personally just wish they'd get shot of the timestamp as it does nothing but confuse folk

Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:41:26

Latest 3 monthly forecast from the weather company

IBM Seasonal Outlook: Cold, Dry Weather to Persist Through February in Northern/Western Europe

Active Storm Track to Keep Southern Europe Wet and Windy

Andover, MA

For the aggregate February-April period, The Weather Company, an IBM Business, is forecasting below-normal temperatures across the northwestern half of Europe, with above-normal temperatures confined to Southeast Europe.

“The long-anticipated pattern change towards more sustained colder weather has finally occurred as we head towards the end of January,” said Dr. Todd Crawford, chief meteorologist with The Weather Company. “The obliteration of the polar vortex that occurred via the sudden stratospheric warming event that began on 1 January has resulted in an atmospheric adjustment that will allow a sustained “blocking” pattern over the North Atlantic. This blocking will allow for a long period of colder and drier weather across northwestern Europe as high pressure pushes in from the north and east. This will suppress the storm track to southern Europe, where a wet and windy month is expected in February.”

For the February-April 2019 period, The Weather Company is forecasting the following temperatures.

February

Nordic region – Colder than normal

U.K. – Colder than normal

Northern Mainland – Colder than normal

Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, colder than normal west

Nordic region – Colder than normal

March

U.K. – Warmer than normal

Northern Mainland – Warmer than normal

Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal

April

Nordic region – Warmer than normal

U.K. – Warmer than normal

Northern Mainland – Warmer than normal

Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, cooler than normal west

https://business.weather.com/news/ibm-seasonal-outlook-cold-dry-weather-northern-western-europe

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 21:47:29

 

 

The 14:45 update only updated the UK & regional 5-day forecast the 6 to 30 day is only once a day between 11am and 1pm. I personally just wish they'd get shot of the timestamp as it does nothing but confuse folk

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

Thanks well then - it may be an idea for them to put the time stamp beneath the 5 day forecast instead of beneath the 6-30 forecast to solve confusion! - Or else we will all think that both 5 day and 6 to 30 day forecast have been updated at the same time!


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tallyho_83
26 January 2019 21:49:08

Latest 3 monthly forecast from the weather company

IBM Seasonal Outlook: Cold, Dry Weather to Persist Through February in Northern/Western Europe

Active Storm Track to Keep Southern Europe Wet and Windy

Andover, MA

For the aggregate February-April period, The Weather Company, an IBM Business, is forecasting below-normal temperatures across the northwestern half of Europe, with above-normal temperatures confined to Southeast Europe.

“The long-anticipated pattern change towards more sustained colder weather has finally occurred as we head towards the end of January,” said Dr. Todd Crawford, chief meteorologist with The Weather Company. “The obliteration of the polar vortex that occurred via the sudden stratospheric warming event that began on 1 January has resulted in an atmospheric adjustment that will allow a sustained “blocking” pattern over the North Atlantic. This blocking will allow for a long period of colder and drier weather across northwestern Europe as high pressure pushes in from the north and east. This will suppress the storm track to southern Europe, where a wet and windy month is expected in February.”

For the February-April 2019 period, The Weather Company is forecasting the following temperatures.

February

Nordic region – Colder than normal

U.K. – Colder than normal

Northern Mainland – Colder than normal

Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, colder than normal west

Nordic region – Colder than normal

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Well we really do need to start seeing this in the model outputs and soon because February is less than a week away and we have been here before and there is very little northern blocking on the model output at this stage - not to mention many ensembles are trending milder or less cold as we head into FEB. 


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Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:54:11

 

 

Thanks well then - it may be an idea for them to put the time stamp beneath the 5 day forecast instead of beneath the 6-30 forecast to solve confusion! - Or else we will all think that both 5 day and 6 to 30 day forecast have been updated at the same time!

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

 

Sadly the new website they're working on is no better they say the 6 to 30 day was updated at 16:00 when it wasn't

 

As I say for the 6 to 30 day just following the dates it covers then you know they've updated it

 

ie today is 31st to 9th whereas tomorrow it'll be 1st to 10th on the 6 to 15 day once they've issued the update and so on

tallyho_83
27 January 2019 00:23:21

I don't know why but I just love this photo I took and her so called 'JAZZ Hands!' 

What's the name of this forecaster?

Back to weather she forecast - sleety/ snow showers crossing many parts on Wednesday:

 

 


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