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doctormog
27 July 2018 09:03:17
We have had about 25mm in the past week with seemingly significantly more to come. Not enough to ruin the summer but enough to dispel any “drought” situation. It’s still warm today though.
Saint Snow
27 July 2018 09:33:27

This country really is pathetic at dealing with any form of abnormal weather! This brilliant summer, when you look at it, has been no more than a typical European summer. If you went to Paris or Berlin, they'd tell you that what we've had would be a fairly average summer to them. Yet over here we have water restrictions and a few days in the low-mid 30s and people can't cope. We really must be an absolute laughing stock to most of the northern hemisphere right now, who have had to face much worse conditions than we have.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

The fact that other cities find these conditions 'typical' or 'fairly average' means that they'll have regular use for air con (or, if they get frequent good winters, for snow-clearing, etc equipment).

Imagine the moans and the whingeing about wasted money if there'd been massive investment in air con following the 2006 summer, when the next half dozen years saw generally wash-out summers across most of the UK?

 



The UK really needs to invest in proper air conditioning and water management. Have A/C on buses and give people the means to install a proper system in their homes and workplaces.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Sounding rather socialist there, Bolty. Have you finally seen the light?

Private companies with maximising profit as a motive aren't going to invest one penny more than they have to. I drive past a massive puddle and flowing gutter-stream every day on my way to work in Manchester from a leaking water pipe. It's been like that since about April. And United Utilities, enjoying massive profits for shareholders in a monopolistic market position are imposing a hosepipe ban from next weekend.

 

 


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Bolty
27 July 2018 10:16:21

 

The fact that other cities find these conditions 'typical' or 'fairly average' means that they'll have regular use for air con (or, if they get frequent good winters, for snow-clearing, etc equipment).

Imagine the moans and the whingeing about wasted money if there'd been massive investment in air con following the 2006 summer, when the next half dozen years saw generally wash-out summers across most of the UK?

 

 

Sounding rather socialist there, Bolty. Have you finally seen the light?

Private companies with maximising profit as a motive aren't going to invest one penny more than they have to. I drive past a massive puddle and flowing gutter-stream every day on my way to work in Manchester from a leaking water pipe. It's been like that since about April. And United Utilities, enjoying massive profits for shareholders in a monopolistic market position are imposing a hosepipe ban from next weekend.

 

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Lol, at the risk of de-railing this thread, bring something like this up in politics thread and I'll happily have a debate.


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LeedsLad123
27 July 2018 14:28:16

This country really is pathetic at dealing with any form of abnormal weather! This brilliant summer, when you look at it, has been no more than a typical European summer. If you went to Paris or Berlin, they'd tell you that what we've had would be a fairly average summer to them. Yet over here we have water restrictions and a few days in the low-mid 30s and people can't cope. We really must be an absolute laughing stock to most of the northern hemisphere right now, who have had to face much worse conditions than we have.

The UK really needs to invest in proper air conditioning and water management. Have A/C on buses and give people the means to install a proper system in their homes and workplaces.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

And when France gets a heatwave, people in Spain will look at them and say 'That's just normal for us'. So what?  A/C is expensive and generally not needed - much like an army of snow ploughs in the winter.


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richardabdn
27 July 2018 16:44:41

 

 

2018 is miles ahead of 2013 and 2006 bar the record setting heatwave in terms of rainfall and sunshine. Both those summers has a poor month, 2013 had June and 2006 has August and that's not even accounting for the excellent spell from late April and Early May onwards. Aberdeen didn't record 20c once until 30th June 2013, which is probably the coolest start to a year ever. The weather records and the reports from friends just don't back up the notion of a crap summer in NE Scotland unless you expect nothing less that Mediterranean conditions. Foggy this morning after thunderstorms last night my Mum reports, supposed to clear later. 

Originally Posted by: Phil 2804 

I’m not claiming it’s a poor summer just not one of the very best and likely to be one of two distinct halves. Before I went on holiday it was great now it feels like the typical post-2006 drudge with lots of cloud and disgusting weekend weather. It's vile at the moment and this is what we will be stuck with all weekend 

It didn’t reach 20C until 30th June 2013, which was the latest since 1932, but that doesn’t make it a poor month since the average max is only 16C. Days of 18-19C can be considered warm unlike now. It was very dry with above average sunshine and average temperatures just with nothing particularly warm. July was very warm and sunny and August was warm with average sunshine and below average rainfall so there was no poor month in that summer though only July could be considered really good and likewise only June falls into that category this year.

I recorded 571.8 hours of sun for summer 2013 which may not be reached by this summer if recent levels continue. Rainfall was practically the same at this stage but there were thundery deluges in late July 2013 that pushed up the rainfall totals which is happening again this year. The difference is that it didn’t write-off the whole weekend then with Saturday 27th being glorious followed by a diabolical Sunday.

2006 I don’t rate highly at all due to the dreadful August but July 2006 remains the best summer month we have had this century. The summer did record under 100mm of rain though, which is the last time this happened. Can’t see this summer managing that now unless the weekend predictions prove wildly off the mark or bone dry conditions return in August.


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johncs2016
28 July 2018 19:24:44

I know that I was welcoming the latest return to cooler and fresher weather, but this drop in the temperature which we are getting is starting to get a bit ridiculous now, as the temperature has now dropped all the way down to around 11ºC as at 8pm this evening which has now brought us to the stage where I have seen warmer evenings than this, even in the middle of winter.


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TimS
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28 July 2018 19:43:31
It’s reached the sad state, at this point in the summer, where August will either be statistically disappointing, or insufferably hot.

Or you could say either pleasantly fresh or statistically fascinating, I suppose.


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roadrunnerajn
28 July 2018 19:47:38

It’s reached the sad state, at this point in the summer, where August will either be statistically disappointing, or insufferably hot.

Or you could say either pleasantly fresh or statistically fascinating, I suppose.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Or we could moan that it's nearly Autumn and Christmas stuff will be arriving in the supermarkets...


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Col
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29 July 2018 04:55:42

This country really is pathetic at dealing with any form of abnormal weather! This brilliant summer, when you look at it, has been no more than a typical European summer. If you went to Paris or Berlin, they'd tell you that what we've had would be a fairly average summer to them. Yet over here we have water restrictions and a few days in the low-mid 30s and people can't cope. We really must be an absolute laughing stock to most of the northern hemisphere right now, who have had to face much worse conditions than we have.

The UK really needs to invest in proper air conditioning and water management. Have A/C on buses and give people the means to install a proper system in their homes and workplaces.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

The infrastructure of any place will develop to cope with the normal range of weather expected in the area not the extremes. In Saudi Arabia I have seen rain that in this country we would shrug off without even thinking about completely paralyse a city of 4 million people. They don't have drains and gutters! Rain like that happens perhaps once a decade so why invest in a drainage system that will hardly ever be used?


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Jiries
29 July 2018 06:11:16

It’s reached the sad state, at this point in the summer, where August will either be statistically disappointing, or insufferably hot.

Or you could say either pleasantly fresh or statistically fascinating, I suppose.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Never like August as is the last month of summer and a dying time for summer season.  Even when I was living in Cyprus after August 15th it get sad to see less daylight hours, temperatures hard to reach 40C and knowing your school holidays coming to the end soon.  I hope this year August and September to have bonus extension of summer as remember we lost the summer as early as 18th July 2017 which was just less than 1 month from the longest day.  That year 2017 want to be forgotten because of how the summer was severely destroyed from 18th July and not a recovery of 1 week or few weeks settle weather.  In other poor summers mostly was recovered in September and early October sometimes.

I also dislike Notting Hill Carninval bcause that like showing a celebration of summer come to the end. 

Bolty
29 July 2018 13:03:55
Today (and likely tomorrow) is probably the only really poor day of this summer so far. Quite a bit of rain this morning, though it probably still won't stop our useless water agencies from calling off the hosepipe bans.
Scott

Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.

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Chunky Pea
29 July 2018 13:21:50

 

Never like August as is the last month of summer and a dying time for summer season.  Even when I was living in Cyprus after August 15th it get sad to see less daylight hours, temperatures hard to reach 40C and knowing your school holidays coming to the end soon.  I hope this year August and September to have bonus extension of summer as remember we lost the summer as early as 18th July 2017 which was just less than 1 month from the longest day.  That year 2017 want to be forgotten because of how the summer was severely destroyed from 18th July and not a recovery of 1 week or few weeks settle weather.  In other poor summers mostly was recovered in September and early October sometimes.

I also dislike Notting Hill Carninval bcause that like showing a celebration of summer come to the end. 

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

As a month, I much prefer August to other summer months precisely for the reason you hate it - that summer is dying.  but seriously, It is one of the more beautiful months in my opinon.. Flora and fauna are in peak blossom; the night's are beginning to close in, but not enough to take away from those long, lingering pinky red twilights that I associate this month with, and the weather itself becomes potentially more volatile. It is a month were really anything can happen.. though sadly, rarely does. 


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richardabdn
29 July 2018 18:32:07

This atrocity of a weekend goes far beyond just a mere unsettled blip. It has been an unspeakably grim slice of 2007/2012 style unadulterated horror. Nothing wrong with some sun and showers type weather but this has been unwelcome, unwanted and unnecessary 

I thought yesterday was bad enough but at least it did brighten up for the evening. Today has been revolting pretty much from the off bar wasted pre-9am sunshine which counts for nothing. I was down in Forfar where it rained all afternoon and travelling back up the visibility was shocking near the coast with thick fog and murk.

A max of just 14.6C which is very poor for what should be the warmest time of year. and is the coldest July maximum I have recorded for three years.

Only a further 1.8mm of rain needs to fall today to give three consecutive daily rain totals of 10mm for the first time in my records since December 2012 and were that to happen it would also give the first summer weekend since June 2007 in which both days have recorded 10mm. Yes, not even 2012 managed that.

An exceptionally bad spell of weather and all the worse for managing to coincide perfectly with the weekend 


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howham
29 July 2018 20:31:04

This atrocity of a weekend goes far beyond just a mere unsettled blip. It has been an unspeakably grim slice of 2007/2012 style unadulterated horror. Nothing wrong with some sun and showers type weather but this has been unwelcome, unwanted and unnecessary 

I thought yesterday was bad enough but at least it did brighten up for the evening. Today has been revolting pretty much from the off bar wasted pre-9am sunshine which counts for nothing. I was down in Forfar where it rained all afternoon and travelling back up the visibility was shocking near the coast with thick fog and murk.

A max of just 14.6C which is very poor for what should be the warmest time of year. and is the coldest July maximum I have recorded for three years.

Only a further 1.8mm of rain needs to fall today to give three consecutive daily rain totals of 10mm for the first time in my records since December 2012 and were that to happen it would also give the first summer weekend since June 2007 in which both days have recorded 10mm. Yes, not even 2012 managed that.

An exceptionally bad spell of weather and all the worse for managing to coincide perfectly with the weekend 

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Previous two Sundays topped 25C here so the run had to end sometime...

Col
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30 July 2018 04:17:38

 

Previous two Sundays topped 25C here so the run had to end sometime...

Originally Posted by: howham 

He will never let the facts get in the way of a good rant!


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RobR
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30 July 2018 07:05:52

It was the first bad weekend in how long? I can't remember the last bad one it was that many months ago!


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doctormog
30 July 2018 07:12:20
I often get the impression that summer refers to May to July here with August being a move into autumn. We will see this year. There’s little doubt though in the south that it is and will continue to “be summer” for some time yet.
Jiries
30 July 2018 07:27:31

It was the first bad weekend in how long? I can't remember the last bad one it was that many months ago!

Originally Posted by: RobR 

I think since Easter weekend when it was wash out.  

richardabdn
30 July 2018 07:42:21

It was the first bad weekend in how long? I can't remember the last bad one it was that many months ago!

Originally Posted by: RobR 

It was the first poor weekend since the previous one which had an awful sunless cool and drizzly Saturday and overcast Sunday afternoon.

Coming weekend looks a dismal cloudy mess as well. Absolutely disgusted by that prospect and sick at what a pile of crap this summer has turned into. It was over by mid-July and what we have had since then has been more of the same horribly unsettled cloudy rubbish that has prevailed over the past 11 years.


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NMA
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30 July 2018 07:44:41

It was the first poor weekend since the previous one which had an awful sunless cool and drizzly Saturday and overcast Sunday afternoon.

Coming weekend looks a dismal cloudy mess as well. Absolutely disgusted by that prospect and sick at what a pile of crap this summer has turned into. It was over by mid-July and what we have had since then has been more of the same horribly unsettled cloudy rubbish that has prevailed over the past 11 years.

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Ah normal service resumes then for Aberdeen.


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andy-manc
30 July 2018 08:56:05

With just a month of summer to go, bad days in August can feel quite autumnal up here so I'm hoping we can tap into as much Southern heat as possible.

Looking at the forecast, I'm expecting it to be much of the same as the past couple of weeks with a few hot days, a few cloudy days and one or two rainy days. With this setup, we are always only a couple of days away from westerly junk which I don't like. At the same time, we are also always a few days away from sunny hot days so it's not all that bad.

After the amazing first half of summer though, I just wanted this summer to go down as a great one and I feel like I need at least an 8/10 August after a mediocre 2 or 3 weeks in July. It's particularly more infuriating when a small corner of the country is still enjoying heat and sun most days.

howham
30 July 2018 10:52:13

 

It was the first poor weekend since the previous one which had an awful sunless cool and drizzly Saturday and overcast Sunday afternoon.

Coming weekend looks a dismal cloudy mess as well. Absolutely disgusted by that prospect and sick at what a pile of crap this summer has turned into. It was over by mid-July and what we have had since then has been more of the same horribly unsettled cloudy rubbish that has prevailed over the past 11 years.

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Not only is Richard's glass half empty, it is also cracked.

richardabdn
30 July 2018 16:37:02

This is an absolutely toxic spell of weather. It couldn’t be any worse.

Thursday it’s fine most of the day then miserable in the evening. Same on Friday although not as good during the day. The weekend is then a foul write-off but by Monday the sun is back out only to disappear by late afternoon giving yet another useless overcast cool and wet evening with the rain starting pretty much bang on cue at 5pm.

From my point of view this is now five consecutive days of write-off rubbish in a row. Tomorrow looks like a repeat of today then it’s Wednesday which will mark a whole week since I was last able to sit out in the garden. Absolutely disgusting for what is supposed to be the warmest time of year.  I am sick to death of staring out at glorious weather from a stuffy office only to have to spend my free time stuck inside a stuffy house because the weather is crap outside


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johncs2016
30 July 2018 16:41:06

This is an absolutely toxic spell of weather. It couldn’t be any worse.

Thursday it’s fine most of the day then miserable in the evening. Same on Friday although not as good during the day. The weekend is then a foul write-off but by Monday the sun is back out only to disappear by late afternoon giving yet another useless overcast cool and wet evening with the rain starting pretty much bang on cue at 5pm.

From my point of view this is now five consecutive days of write-off rubbish in a row. Tomorrow looks like a repeat of today then it’s Wednesday which will mark a whole week since I was last able to sit out in the garden. Absolutely disgusting for what is supposed to be the warmest time of year.  I am sick to death of staring out at glorious weather from a stuffy office only to have to spend my free time stuck inside a stuffy house because the weather is crap outside

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

.. if only, we had the power to change the weather and actually do something about that.

 


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Col
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30 July 2018 17:03:30

 

Not only is Richard's glass half empty, it is also cracked.

Originally Posted by: howham 

Not even that, he's wondering who's nicked his pint.....


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