Now that we have just entered the first day of the meteorological summer, I thought that it would be a good idea to start this thread as the place to have a good moan if the weather isn't behaving in the way that you want it to, or if you have something to moan about in general. Personally, I could find a few things to moan about in the next few days because at the moment, we have just entered the 19th day of an absolute drought which has been ongoing since 14 May 2018. If the latest forecast is right though, this drought could be about to end within the next day or two thanks to some thundery showers or thunderstorms which until now, had been mostly confined to the southern half of the UK until now.

I'm that this rainfall will in many ways be welcomed by gardeners and growers, but it would be just like the thing if after all of this dry weather which we have had, the very time when this comes to an end with the rain returning occurred just as we headed into the summer, which would end up happening if the official forecasts are correct. That is just typical of the weather in this country, and wouldn't exactly be making for a very good start to the summer if that happened.

 

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If June carries on in the same fashion as May, there will be absolutely no complaining from me!

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It has been demonstrated recently that even after we get a clear night, we CANNOT get a completely sunny morning with a couple of hours or so of recorded sunshine by about 8am, even though that SHOULD be achievable without any problems whatsoever at this time of year. This morning is yet another example of that because once again, we have the usual veil of cloud and although the Sun is trying in vain at times to get through that, that veil of cloud is still managing to limit the amount of sunshine which is being recorded with just 42 minutes of sunshine having been recorded for today so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 8am this morning.

I have been examining the sunshine records for this part of the world and notice that Edinburgh Gogarbank has only had 48.1% of the June 1981-2010 average for that station so far during this month, even though we are more than halfway through the month. For the botanic gardens, I have only been able to get the sunshine totals for up to and including 12 June 2018 with that data coming from the Met Office Observations Site.

From that data, I worked out that as at the end of that day in question, the botanic gardens in Edinburgh had only had 36.5% of its 1981-2010 June average for that stations. This means that even after all of those sunny afternoons which we had during that spell earlier on this month under those easterlies, this month is still running duller than average at both of those stations so far which once again demonstrates that we just CANNOT get a sunnier than average summer month these days in the modern era of the Great British summer.

 

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Overcast again . Woke up to find it had rained again TWO days in a row. Had to wear a sweatshirt yesterday as had cold arms. might be doing the same again today. Not long now afore the Summer Solstice and not much star gazing done at all. 

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Too much Northerly breeze for summer today... 

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This is turning into yet another appalling summer. Sick to death of relentless grey skies and poor weekend weather. Two weeks now since the last really good day with only a few passable efforts since then.

Today it is sunny but the wind is so strong, it's uncomfortable to be outside. Dreadful for the time of year.

Middle third of June really was disgusting. Bad even by the rock bottom standards of the past 11 years with sunshine hours barely any better than 2012.

It’s just shocking that there has not been a single occasion in over a decade that the weather has been any good at this time of year.

More rubbish likely over the weekend too. High pressure over us but apparently all we will see is more of the June permacast gunk that accompanies every single synoptic set-up this time of year.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn483.html  Vile and depressing

 

Looks like we are being made to pay big time for the run of good Saturdays in May even though that barely began to make amends for all the rotten runs there’s been in recent years.

Last June was actually better because at least the good days fell at the weekends whereas this month is a nightmare with significantly worse weekend than weekday weather, something which has been a staple of the post 2006 era. 

What’s the betting that if we do see a good spell of weather next week it will be over by the weekend? Four crap Saturdays in a row really would put this summer on a par with 2007/2012. Beyond depressing

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This is turning into yet another appalling summer. Sick to death of relentless grey skies and poor weekend weather. Two weeks now since the last really good day with only a few passable efforts since then.

Today it is sunny but the wind is so strong, it's uncomfortable to be outside. Dreadful for the time of year.

Middle third of June really was disgusting. Bad even by the rock bottom standards of the past 11 years with sunshine hours barely any better than 2012.

It’s just shocking that there has not been a single occasion in over a decade that the weather has been any good at this time of year.

More rubbish likely over the weekend too. High pressure over us but apparently all we will see is more of the June permacast gunk that accompanies every single synoptic set-up this time of year.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn483.html  Vile and depressing

 

Looks like we are being made to pay big time for the run of good Saturdays in May even though that barely began to make amends for all the rotten runs there’s been in recent years.

Last June was actually better because at least the good days fell at the weekends whereas this month is a nightmare with significantly worse weekend than weekday weather, something which has been a staple of the post 2006 era. 

What’s the betting that if we do see a good spell of weather next week it will be over by the weekend? Four crap Saturdays in a row really would put this summer on a par with 2007/2012. Beyond depressing

HA!! HA!! HA!!

You know, you've just got to take your hats off to Richard. I had already noticed that he had made a similar complaint about today's weather on the current conditions thread and was going to reply there, until I then noticed this one.

One thing that Richard is very good at is being able to find something about the weather in his area which he isn't happy with, almost regardless of what the actual weather is like and he has certainly showed his true form with this one tonight.

That's why I say, hats off to him but personally, I'm just happy that we're actually getting some sunshine for a change after having to put up with the annual June permacast for so long. It isn't likely to be the sunniest day of the year in the end, but it is the sunniest day which we have had for over a couple of weeks and will be no worse than the second sunniest day of the summer so far as a result. Given what we have been having to put up with recently, that is more than enough for me just now even with that vile wind which he has mentioned.

EDIT:

I can now confirm that today will now go down as the sunniest day of the summer so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank which has now given me something to be happy about. For that reason, I can officially put this one as a gloat rather than a moan which as I mentioned in the sub-heading for this thread, anyone is perfectly free to do here.

 

 

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This is turning into yet another appalling summer. Sick to death of relentless grey skies and poor weekend weather. Two weeks now since the last really good day with only a few passable efforts since then.

Today it is sunny but the wind is so strong, it's uncomfortable to be outside. Dreadful for the time of year.

Middle third of June really was disgusting. Bad even by the rock bottom standards of the past 11 years with sunshine hours barely any better than 2012.

It’s just shocking that there has not been a single occasion in over a decade that the weather has been any good at this time of year.

More rubbish likely over the weekend too. High pressure over us but apparently all we will see is more of the June permacast gunk that accompanies every single synoptic set-up this time of year.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn483.html  Vile and depressing

 

Looks like we are being made to pay big time for the run of good Saturdays in May even though that barely began to make amends for all the rotten runs there’s been in recent years.

Last June was actually better because at least the good days fell at the weekends whereas this month is a nightmare with significantly worse weekend than weekday weather, something which has been a staple of the post 2006 era. 

What’s the betting that if we do see a good spell of weather next week it will be over by the weekend? Four crap Saturdays in a row really would put this summer on a par with 2007/2012. Beyond depressing

After the numerous poor summers we have had over the past decade or so, shouldn't you just be glad that the sun has made an appearance even if it was a bit windy? 

FWIW it has been quite breezy here today too, but that has not stopped me enjoying the sunshine.

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After the numerous poor summers we have had over the past decade or so, shouldn't you just be glad that the sun has made an appearance even if it was a bit windy? 

FWIW it has been quite breezy here today too, but that has not stopped me enjoying the sunshine.

Well said!! .. and of course, we also have to remember that it was only just last year that we had our wettest June on record here in Edinburgh (with all of the other summer months after that being wetter than average as well). That at least, is one thing which we don't have to worry about this time even though it has been rather wet here just recently, especially on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.

I have even noticed that being mentioned on Richard's signature at the bottom of all of his posts and yet, it is though he has forgotten all about that.

 

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The wind has definitely been persistent this spring and summer, though I don't mind so much.. even though it messes my hair up!

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Moaning about the models when all about seem to be celebrating them is a lonely sport. I think perhaps living in London where a par summer day is 24C with sunny spells means I have a different perspective of what’s good.

So next week’s warm-wave, with mid 20s temperatures and decent sunshine all contained within the working week (but breaking down by the weekend) when I’ll be in an air conditioned office, after a day or two of charts that suggested the record breaking heatwave to end all heatwaves, is strangely filling me with a sense of pathos. To have seen the promised land, and then to see it snatched away. Like those winter snowfests that turn into a few frosty days.

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This is turning into yet another appalling summer. Sick to death of relentless grey skies and poor weekend weather. Two weeks now since the last really good day with only a few passable efforts since then.

Today it is sunny but the wind is so strong, it's uncomfortable to be outside. Dreadful for the time of year.

Middle third of June really was disgusting. Bad even by the rock bottom standards of the past 11 years with sunshine hours barely any better than 2012.

It’s just shocking that there has not been a single occasion in over a decade that the weather has been any good at this time of year.

More rubbish likely over the weekend too. High pressure over us but apparently all we will see is more of the June permacast gunk that accompanies every single synoptic set-up this time of year.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn483.html  Vile and depressing

 

Looks like we are being made to pay big time for the run of good Saturdays in May even though that barely began to make amends for all the rotten runs there’s been in recent years.

Last June was actually better because at least the good days fell at the weekends whereas this month is a nightmare with significantly worse weekend than weekday weather, something which has been a staple of the post 2006 era. 

What’s the betting that if we do see a good spell of weather next week it will be over by the weekend? Four crap Saturdays in a row really would put this summer on a par with 2007/2012. Beyond depressing

I'll gladly trade places with you for the next couple of weeks if you are up for it? I'm hearing talk of 30c being reached here by the end of next week, and this prospect is making me unnerved and increasingly unhinged (if that is even possible) just thinking about it. 

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Moaning about the models when all about seem to be celebrating them is a lonely sport. I think perhaps living in London where a par summer day is 24C with sunny spells means I have a different perspective of what’s good.

Providing that stupid easterly doesn't drag in low cloud, we could have a good 7 days or more of essentially full sunshine which is very good going by the standards of anywhere in the UK - and bearing in mind that at this time of year we can get over 16 hours of sun a day so the totals could stack up quickly. The fact that it won't be 30 degrees is neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned.

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I agree, 30c really isn't necessary to have a prolonged spell of memorable weather. Sunshine and light winds is all I ask for.

I think it was Rob, who said in another thread that 25C wasn't good enough due to the cool evenings! If it was 25c late afternoon, i would hope it would be nice enough for a comfortable evening outside. . At this time of year even more so, the sun still shines on my garden past 9pm.

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Reminder to stay on topic, this is a moaning thread!
Not a huge amount to moan about this morning though, it's a lovely fresh and sunny day.

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Reminder to stay on topic, this is a moaning thread!
Not a huge amount to moan about this morning though, it's a lovely fresh and sunny day.

True, as I can see some stuff creeping in here which would be more at home on the Model Output thread.

Anyway, my moan is that after such a sunny morning which has resulted in 6.3 hours of sunshine being recorded for today so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 12 noon, another veil of cloud has now invaded this part of the world from the north, and is now threatening to take us back into our all too familiar June permacast hell yet again.

 

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What an absolute let-down!!

This was billed in these forums as bring a "barbecue weekend" but in this part of the world, it was always going to asking too much for the theme of nice, sunny mornings which we have seen during the last two mornings to carry on for any length of time.

True to form, that is being proved to be the case yet again, as this morning has once again seen a re-commencement of the annual June permacast as we have once again, returned to that same old soul destroying and depressing grey and overcast nothingness as before.

In other word, a case of normal service resumed once again. So much then for this barbecue weekend and this lovely weather which we were meant to be getting!!

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The nice spell of weather here has always been forecast to become established from tomorrow? Any warm sunshine today would/will be a bonus.

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If I see the words "Permacast Hell" written anymore I may have to throw my phone out the window...😎😋

If I see the words "Permacast Hell" written anymore I may have to throw my phone out the window...😎😋

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