Rob K
Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:57:13 PM

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


We've had a lot of cloud here today but sunny spells too. Temps peaked at about 29C.



Yes the temperature shoots up in the sunny spells but it's been very grey and depressing most of the time here.


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xioni2
Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:13:26 PM

Originally Posted by: TimS 

In case anyone thinks it’s unfair that the SE gets all the nice weather, let me assure you we are enduring unending permacast here and have been for several days. Yesterday managed about 4 octas but both Friday and Sunday have been completely overcast, and very muggy. Tomorrow is forecast to be cloudy yet again. I’m starting to wonder what happened to those lovely cobalt blue skies of early summer. A distant memory - this stuff is much more British.


Same here and yuck, even 20C and sunny is better than this! It reminded me of how much I dislike Tm air masses throughout the year.


At least it's dry!

Crepuscular Ray
Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:29:13 PM
Cloudy here today. 21 C felt reasonable if you got out of the moderate wind
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Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:36:15 PM

It was dull and cloudy here all morning with a few brighter spells but no sun. This afternoon the cloud has gradually disappeared, sunny spells increased, temp got over 27c and now the sky is almost clear and it’s 26.5c.  It’s also very calm and looks like being an uncomfortable night!  


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ARTzeman
Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:17:42 PM

Too hot and sunny for too long. Want clouds and some precipitation.....






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Crepuscular Ray
Monday, July 23, 2018 6:17:12 AM
Another average week to come. Mainly cloudy, showery rain at times and 20-22 C.
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Retron
Monday, July 23, 2018 6:19:19 AM

This is turning into a disaster of a summer from my point of view - barely any rain, temperatures persistently above 25C (bearing in mind the average IMBY is 20 or 21 this time of year) and stale, hot and humid air indoors due to a lack of wind.

I've endured two "too hot to be confortable" days at the wolf centre (the wolves themselves sought the shade during the walks, they're not daft) and now I've come down with a summer cold - being hot and bothered for weeks on end is bad enough, let alone being all blocked up!

The sooner this crapfest of a summer breaks the better, but sadly there's no sign of that.

It's flipping typical, really - we had a decent 1-week cold spell, with snow (1996 ot 1997 style), then we get a really long, drawn-out 1995 (or even 1976) style summer. We'd better get payback for this dross in the form of some more snow this winter!


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Saint Snow
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:47:28 AM

Originally Posted by: TimS 

In case anyone thinks it’s unfair that the SE gets all the nice weather, let me assure you we are enduring unending permacast here and have been for several days. Yesterday managed about 4 octas but both Friday and Sunday have been completely overcast, and very muggy. Tomorrow is forecast to be cloudy yet again. I’m starting to wonder what happened to those lovely cobalt blue skies of early summer. A distant memory - this stuff is much more British.


 


Ah, that lovely easterly flow bringing its dry, continental air...


Yet people still moaned at the time because some murk came in off the North Sea to affect the far-eastern areas.



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Jiries
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:51:53 AM

Originally Posted by: Retron 


This is turning into a disaster of a summer from my point of view - barely any rain, temperatures persistently above 25C (bearing in mind the average IMBY is 20 or 21 this time of year) and stale, hot and humid air indoors due to a lack of wind.

I've endured two "too hot to be confortable" days at the wolf centre (the wolves themselves sought the shade during the walks, they're not daft) and now I've come down with a summer cold - being hot and bothered for weeks on end is bad enough, let alone being all blocked up!

The sooner this crapfest of a summer breaks the better, but sadly there's no sign of that.

It's flipping typical, really - we had a decent 1-week cold spell, with snow (1996 ot 1997 style), then we get a really long, drawn-out 1995 (or even 1976) style summer. We'd better get payback for this dross in the form of some more snow this winter!



About winter I look forward how much snow I can get from the NE or ENE flow over Lower Stoke when I move there in early August which on the hottest peak from the ensembles.  For London and Surrey they do well with ENE flow but what about Lower Stoke which is near you do well on both ENE and NE or not?

Retron
Monday, July 23, 2018 9:15:07 AM

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


About winter I look forward how much snow I can get from the NE or ENE flow over Lower Stoke when I move there in early August which on the hottest peak from the ensembles.  For London and Surrey they do well with ENE flow but what about Lower Stoke which is near you do well on both ENE and NE or not?



Down here anything from a NNE to easterly will do the trick in terms of bringing snow showers onshore, albeit they do tend to align in bands (so you sometimes get the situation where you spend all day seeing clouds passing just to the east or west of you!)


Talking of which, I'd kill for a nice stiff NE'ly right now! Instead there's the merest hint of a SW'ly and it's bloomin' hot.


 


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Jiries
Monday, July 23, 2018 9:48:46 AM

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Down here anything from a NNE to easterly will do the trick in terms of bringing snow showers onshore, albeit they do tend to align in bands (so you sometimes get the situation where you spend all day seeing clouds passing just to the east or west of you!)


Talking of which, I'd kill for a nice stiff NE'ly right now! Instead there's the merest hint of a SW'ly and it's bloomin' hot.


 



Thanks for the tip and speaking of SW that would give Lower Stoke very hot air from the main land Kent or near southerly winds as long it not tampered much from the small water area between Sheerness and Isle of Grain.  They reached 29C yesterday as the wind was westerly so probably around 30-31C in Lower Stoke as they have no weather station at all even online not found.  

doctormog
Monday, July 23, 2018 10:25:14 AM

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


Ah, that lovely easterly flow bringing its dry, continental air...


Yet people still moaned at the time because some murk came in off the North Sea to affect the far-eastern areas.


 


Yes, thankfully this areas has cloud from the NW instead now.  (At least it is warm)


Saint Snow
Monday, July 23, 2018 10:32:41 AM

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yes, thankfully this areas has cloud from the NW instead now.  (At least it is warm)



 


Indeed. The irony was that those toward the east were moaning at the time that if only we could have a flow from a westerly quadrant, they'd be fine. As it turns out, all the westerly flow has done is add cloud for the western two-thirds of the country, too.


 


 


 



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Easternpromise
Monday, July 23, 2018 10:44:48 AM

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 Ah, that lovely easterly flow bringing its dry, continental air...


Yet people still moaned at the time because some murk came in off the North Sea to affect the far-eastern areas.



 


When we had the NE flow for what seemed like an entire week or so, it only brought in low cloud/mist/murk overnight (at least here in Suffolk 30miles from the coast).


It quickly burned away each morning though.  There were no complaints from me having that NE flow; took the edge of the temperatures and felt far more comfortable than it does right now.


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Saint Snow
Monday, July 23, 2018 10:50:10 AM

And another thing...


When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")


I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.


 


 



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andy-manc
Monday, July 23, 2018 11:12:38 AM

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


And another thing...


When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")


I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.


 


 



They did this on BBC Radio One this morning. They said it would be hot and sunny for many today but it would be cooler with showers in the north west but what does that mean?!

Rob K
Monday, July 23, 2018 12:37:51 PM

Originally Posted by: andy-manc 


 


They did this on BBC Radio One this morning. They said it would be hot and sunny for many today but it would be cooler with showers in the north west but what does that mean?!



They're talking about that vague area known in media circles as "outside London".


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Monday, July 23, 2018 12:40:21 PM

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


They're talking about that vague area known in media circles as "outside London".



Given BBC news (well, TV anyway) is based in Salford maybe NW means somewhere to the North and West of Manchester.


Based on the current maps the bad weather seems to stretch through North Lancs and Cumbria.


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Joe Bloggs
Monday, July 23, 2018 4:08:09 PM

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


And another thing...


When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")


I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.


 


 



THIS!!!



BBC Radio is very guilty of this. 


In a UK perspective the NW doesn't mean us IMO, if I hear NW (when talking about the UK), I presume Glasgow, Belfast etc.



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Tim A
Monday, July 23, 2018 4:15:34 PM
For simplicity as a Yorkshireman SE = SE of Leeds and NW = NW of Leeds.
31c in Doncaster in the SE today and only about 20c ,cloudy/windy in Settle/Malham etc. See it works.
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