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Jiries
23 July 2018 09:48:46

 

Down here anything from a NNE to easterly will do the trick in terms of bringing snow showers onshore, albeit they do tend to align in bands (so you sometimes get the situation where you spend all day seeing clouds passing just to the east or west of you!)

Talking of which, I'd kill for a nice stiff NE'ly right now! Instead there's the merest hint of a SW'ly and it's bloomin' hot.

 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Thanks for the tip and speaking of SW that would give Lower Stoke very hot air from the main land Kent or near southerly winds as long it not tampered much from the small water area between Sheerness and Isle of Grain.  They reached 29C yesterday as the wind was westerly so probably around 30-31C in Lower Stoke as they have no weather station at all even online not found.  

doctormog
23 July 2018 10:25:14

 

 

Ah, that lovely easterly flow bringing its dry, continental air...

Yet people still moaned at the time because some murk came in off the North Sea to affect the far-eastern areas.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

 

Yes, thankfully this areas has cloud from the NW instead now.  (At least it is warm)


Saint Snow
23 July 2018 10:32:41

Yes, thankfully this areas has cloud from the NW instead now.  (At least it is warm)

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

 

Indeed. The irony was that those toward the east were moaning at the time that if only we could have a flow from a westerly quadrant, they'd be fine. As it turns out, all the westerly flow has done is add cloud for the western two-thirds of the country, too.

 

 

 


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Easternpromise
23 July 2018 10:44:48

 Ah, that lovely easterly flow bringing its dry, continental air...

Yet people still moaned at the time because some murk came in off the North Sea to affect the far-eastern areas.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

 

When we had the NE flow for what seemed like an entire week or so, it only brought in low cloud/mist/murk overnight (at least here in Suffolk 30miles from the coast).

It quickly burned away each morning though.  There were no complaints from me having that NE flow; took the edge of the temperatures and felt far more comfortable than it does right now.


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Saint Snow
23 July 2018 10:50:10

And another thing...

When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")

I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.

 

 


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andy-manc
23 July 2018 11:12:38

And another thing...

When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")

I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.

 

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

They did this on BBC Radio One this morning. They said it would be hot and sunny for many today but it would be cooler with showers in the north west but what does that mean?!

Rob K
23 July 2018 12:37:51

 

They did this on BBC Radio One this morning. They said it would be hot and sunny for many today but it would be cooler with showers in the north west but what does that mean?!

Originally Posted by: andy-manc 

They're talking about that vague area known in media circles as "outside London".


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TimS
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23 July 2018 12:40:21

 

They're talking about that vague area known in media circles as "outside London".

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Given BBC news (well, TV anyway) is based in Salford maybe NW means somewhere to the North and West of Manchester.

Based on the current maps the bad weather seems to stretch through North Lancs and Cumbria.


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Joe Bloggs
23 July 2018 16:08:09

And another thing...

When forecasters/TWO'ers talk of 'the north west', I'm never sure whether that includes this region (as in "less settled with more chance of rain in the north west, where temps will be cooler")

I'm in North West England, I know that much, and we get BBC North West (and used to get Granada). But when it's a more vague 'the north west', I don't know if the person is talking about my region, or the fringes of Ulster and far west of Scotland, or setting the boundary somewhere in between.

 

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

THIS!!!

BBC Radio is very guilty of this. 

In a UK perspective the NW doesn't mean us IMO, if I hear NW (when talking about the UK), I presume Glasgow, Belfast etc.

Tim A
23 July 2018 16:15:34
For simplicity as a Yorkshireman SE = SE of Leeds and NW = NW of Leeds.

31c in Doncaster in the SE today and only about 20c ,cloudy/windy in Settle/Malham etc. See it works.


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LeedsLad123
23 July 2018 16:19:20

Yes, for those of us in Leeds terms like NW and SE in a UK-wide context mean nothing because we are in the middle, and much of the time I don't know what side we fall on - though in my experience during summer heatwaves we will typically fall on the 'right' side of the divide (i.e today it's been over 29C in Leeds while in Keswick it's a baltic 19C).


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Sharp Green Fox
23 July 2018 16:50:03

 

THIS!!!

BBC Radio is very guilty of this. 

In a UK perspective the NW doesn't mean us IMO, if I hear NW (when talking about the UK), I presume Glasgow, Belfast etc.

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

I used to live in Manchester and visit frequently. NW always a bone of contention. Difficult to explain to locals when they clearly have got the wrong end of the stick! This year has reminded me very much of 1976, a summer I spent virtually every night in the garden of the Red Lion in Withington. Does it still have a garden and bowling green Joe?

richardabdn
23 July 2018 17:43:38

I have never known anything like this month with high temperatures being accompanied by heavily clouded skies. Utterly pointless having these temperatures if the sky looks as ugly as it does on a poor 16C day.

So far five days this month have reached 25C but few have produced anything like the decent amounts of sunshine that should accompany these temperatures. In fact just one of the five days has managed more sun than cloud: 

8th – max: 25.2C, sunshine: 4.5 hours

14th – max: 25.1C, sunshine: 11.2 hours

15th – max: 25.2C, sunshine: 6.8 hours

22nd – max: 27.6C, sunshine: 6.3 hours

23rd – max: 25.7C, sunshine: 4.4 hours

We seldom see such high temperatures here so to see them ruined by crap cloudy skies is beyond infuriating. I will rescind the comment I made yesterday about being disappointed to miss out on so many 25C days. I never imagined that the sun hours would have been so pathetic so glad to have missed them.

For once I picked the correct time to go on holiday because the last fortnight here has been tripe with four days of permacast hell from the 9th to 12th and no day since the 14th managing 7 hours of sun. This rubbish does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as 1976 and 1995.

Just a shame there is no real sign of improvement. If these woeful sunshine levels continue we’ll be looking at the most extreme collapse between first and second half of summer on record. So far a vile 2007/2012 type average of only 3.5 hours sun per day for the second half compared to an excellent 8 hours for the first.


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Saint Snow
23 July 2018 17:51:55

For simplicity as a Yorkshireman SE = SE of Leeds and NW = NW of Leeds.
31c in Doncaster in the SE today and only about 20c ,cloudy/windy in Settle/Malham etc. See it works.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

 

Foolproof!


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Caz
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23 July 2018 18:17:54

If you think being unsure of which bit of the North West you come from is confusing, how do you think I feel stuck in the middle?!!!  

I live in North Notts in the East Midlands, just to my North is the South Yorkshire border and just West is the North Derbyshire border. I’m often referred to as a Northerner and weather forecasts for the East usually apply!  

No wonder half the time I don’t know whether I’m coming or going!  


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xioni2
23 July 2018 18:46:41

If you think being unsure of which bit of the North West you come from is confusing, how do you think I feel stuck in the middle?!!!  

I live in North Notts in the East Midlands, just to my North is the South Yorkshire border and just West is the North Derbyshire border. I’m often referred to as a Northerner and weather forecasts for the East usually apply!  

No wonder half the time I don’t know whether I’m coming or going!  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

You are a classic mid-eastern! 

TimS
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23 July 2018 18:47:23
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44921834 

The humidity is sickening there at the best of times.


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Retron
24 July 2018 03:02:28

Summer in the SE - and this is in an east-facing bedroom with the window open all night!

(I was in a west-facing room, window closed, with the portable air-con running all night; it didn't get anywhere near the 16C I'd set though!)


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Sinky1970
24 July 2018 06:11:31
Well the "heatwave" here today is sunny start, yes, then cloudy, hmm, then rain, with max at 23C, not hot, so stay out the rain this afternoon, this by the way the Met Office who issued those heatwave warnings. Should be just London and the South-east really, as it is almost a different climate there so many times in forecasts.
Super Cell
24 July 2018 07:51:53

Yes, for those of us in Leeds terms like NW and SE in a UK-wide context mean nothing because we are in the middle, and much of the time I don't know what side we fall on - though in my experience during summer heatwaves we will typically fall on the 'right' side of the divide (i.e today it's been over 29C in Leeds while in Keswick it's a baltic 19C).

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Looking at what happened yesterday, what's already happened this morning (cloud encroachment from the west and the sky quite dark on occasions with rain not too far away) and the forecast this is death by a thousand cuts. Warm, undoubtedly, but ever more cloudy with rain a more prominent part of each day's forecast. The end of the week now looks unsettled with a theme of rain being not too far away now taking hold bit by bit.

Not so much a complaint but a regret. 

 


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ChrisJG
24 July 2018 08:56:32
Woke up this morning to 16c, 100% cloud and drizzle. Now 19c and still raining. And everywhere I look or read is about the heatwave.

And the frustrating irony of it all is that we are the region to be shortly hit with a hosepipe ban. Where's the justice in that?!


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Super Cell
24 July 2018 09:04:58

And now a downgrade to a thunderstorm warning for Friday. Ahh well.

At least I've got the sunshine today. Oh no, of course, I'm in the NW when it suits! Loving the warm cloud.


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Saint Snow
24 July 2018 09:11:03

Woke up this morning to 16c, 100% cloud and drizzle. Now 19c and still raining. And everywhere I look or read is about the heatwave.
And the frustrating irony of it all is that we are the region to be shortly hit with a hosepipe ban. Where's the justice in that?!

Originally Posted by: ChrisJG 

 

Ask the SE-centric media


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Jake
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24 July 2018 09:24:09

 

 

Ask the SE-centric media

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Indeed although its not bad here warm but cloudy! 


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24 July 2018 10:09:24

We were planning to spend a few days with my sister in St Ives in Cornwall starting tomorrow but unfortunately we cannot now make it. Looking at the webcams of the beach and harbour though it seems it was raining earlier. Temp only 19C and quite cloudy.

In this part of Dorset it is 25C. More of a gloat I suppose.


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