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Rob K
29 May 2018 10:26:27
GFS 00Z ensemble looks flatlined for 12 days with minimal ppn after the convective stuff in the next day or two. Hoping the settled weather can hang on until the 16th/17th as we have more people coming for a birthday party than will fit inside the house 🙂
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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TimS
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29 May 2018 16:57:28
Having looked at the last few runs I’m starting to get a bit scared we could be in for a sustained summer deluge. It’s looking not a little like August 2004. I hope it changes. Really want some proper high pressure to come back.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
LeedsLad123
29 May 2018 17:04:31

Having looked at the last few runs I’m starting to get a bit scared we could be in for a sustained summer deluge. It’s looking not a little like August 2004. I hope it changes. Really want some proper high pressure to come back.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

I wouldn't mind August 2004 actually. Plenty of thunderstorms that month - and it was warm at least. 


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
moomin75
29 May 2018 17:04:54

Having looked at the last few runs I’m starting to get a bit scared we could be in for a sustained summer deluge. It’s looking not a little like August 2004. I hope it changes. Really want some proper high pressure to come back.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

I agree. Flooding could become a major issue before we know it. It is an unusual synoptic but certainly not a settled one.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

severnside
29 May 2018 18:34:48

Gav P's latest vid today , with European anomaly's looks like Eastern Europe best for settled warm weather. 

Arcus
29 May 2018 19:00:33
I don't see a continuation or acceleration of disturbed weather on the current output - seems to me like things will dehumidify somewhat, and settle down into the weekend and beyond with high pressure having more of an influence spreading from the north.
Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

ozone_aurora
29 May 2018 19:08:34

What is the source of this unstable atmosphere?

To what I'm getting at, for example, in a typical Atlantic low pressure in UK in summer, the Polar Maritime or Returning Polar Maritime from Greenland is the source of unstable air flowing over strongly heated land generating convection, but what about in this current synopsis? 

Thanks 

Joe Bloggs
30 May 2018 07:04:28

Just scanned the output.

Yes sometime cloudy, and yes the risk of thunderstorms at times, but the headline really is high pressure domination and warm temps continuing, as far as the eye can see.

If anything high pressure becomes more dominant in the medium range, not less.

Up here in NW England this is now an exceptional spell of dry, warm and settled weather, especially given we have missed all the storms over the BH weekend. 

Hungry Tiger
30 May 2018 09:52:50

Nice.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

 


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Rob K
30 May 2018 12:59:37

Nice.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

Nice, but the GFS ensembles are looking less flat-lined this morning with more signs of a cooldown midmonth

 

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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David M Porter
30 May 2018 13:36:42

Just scanned the output.

Yes sometime cloudy, and yes the risk of thunderstorms at times, but the headline really is high pressure domination and warm temps continuing, as far as the eye can see.

If anything high pressure becomes more dominant in the medium range, not less.

Up here in NW England this is now an exceptional spell of dry, warm and settled weather, especially given we have missed all the storms over the BH weekend. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

That's pretty much how I see it as well, Joe. Let's hope the theme remains the same going forward, even if it does turn a little cooler eventually. As long as it is dry, bright and reasonably warm, I won't be complaining.


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Arcus
30 May 2018 18:34:13
Some of the models showing a more invigorated Atlantic push next week on the 12zs, but it's so far off as to be unreliable at present. As far as the reliable timeframe is concerned a decrease in the humidity for SW and southern areas over the weekend looks likely, but a possible reload as cut-off LP re-establishes to the SW is possible.
Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

bledur
30 May 2018 19:23:29

Some of the models showing a more invigorated Atlantic push next week on the 12zs, but it's so far off as to be unreliable at present. As far as the reliable timeframe is concerned a decrease in the humidity for SW and southern areas over the weekend looks likely, but a possible reload as cut-off LP re-establishes to the SW is possible.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

 

 

I would not be surprised if the Atlantic influence pushes in for a short time early to mid June, not often we dont get a little European monsoon even if it is only a few days . It would be quite refreshing as it is as humid for an extended period as i have ever known in May.

TimS
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30 May 2018 21:32:49

I would not be surprised if the Atlantic influence pushes in for a short time early to mid June, not often we dont get a little European monsoon even if it is only a few days . It would be quite refreshing as it is as humid for an extended period as i have ever known in May.

Originally Posted by: bledur 

The jet stream is so far North at the moment: too far in some ways, allowing flabby lies to develop across France, so I wonder whether a little bit more Westerly movement might actually help things in the South - shift the humidity, rain and cloud.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Hungry Tiger
31 May 2018 08:51:04

Still good.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 


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Bertwhistle
31 May 2018 15:30:50

Apologies if this has already been covered, but has anyone else noticed the GFS op modeled minimum and maximum temperatures are the same, for all four of the 6 -hour sessions? There certainly used to be a reasonable difference between them.


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Ally Pally Snowman
31 May 2018 16:49:34

GFS 12z continues the trend of a significant breakdown in the weather starting around the 9th. My hunch for June is warm first 3rd of the month cooler unsettled middle third then hot and humid final third.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
richardabdn
31 May 2018 17:11:41

Looks like yet another shockingly bad June coming up. Reminiscent of early June 2007 with a continuation of the anticyclonic easterlies/north easterlies which have already overstayed their welcome.

This weekend looks a write-off then when the anticylonic easterly muck departs at the end of next week we end up with cyclonic easterly muck and write-off weekend #2

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2161.gif

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.gif

Horrible, depressing stuff. What happened to a normal westerly pattern? Prior to 2007 it used to be rare for June to record under 150 hours sun. Now it's the norm 


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chelseagirl
31 May 2018 19:45:11

Looks like yet another shockingly bad June coming up. Reminiscent of early June 2007 with a continuation of the anticyclonic easterlies/north easterlies which have already overstayed their welcome.

This weekend looks a write-off then when the anticylonic easterly muck departs at the end of next week we end up with cyclonic easterly muck and write-off weekend #2

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2161.gif

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.gif

Horrible, depressing stuff. What happened to a normal westerly pattern? Prior to 2007 it used to be rare for June to record under 150 hours sun. Now it's the norm 

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Just the same in N Norfolk. 4 days of fog. Not seen sun since Saturday. More of the same I fear. 


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Hungry Tiger
31 May 2018 19:59:29

A green dollop is a bad sign. No green dollop on this.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

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moomin75
31 May 2018 20:10:30

A green dollop is a bad sign. No green dollop on this.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

No but there is a whacking green dollop incoming here.

 

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Retron
01 June 2018 04:46:25

A green dollop is a bad sign. No green dollop on this.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

A lovely chart from my point of view - a nice big trough, strong enough to show up on the mean. That can only mean one thing - the European Monsoon is trying to set up, albeit weaker than normal.

 


Leysdown, north Kent
Sevendust
01 June 2018 05:38:42

 

A lovely chart from my point of view - a nice big trough, strong enough to show up on the mean. That can only mean one thing - the European Monsoon is trying to set up, albeit weaker than normal.

 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Form horse ;)

Joe Bloggs
01 June 2018 06:16:52

To all you east coasters moaning about the murk - it’s nice here in the west and we usually get more than our fair share of crap weather in the spring and summer months.

Please, for us, put up with it for a little bit longer ;-) 

Maunder Minimum
01 June 2018 08:13:52

The enduring feature of the weather in our neck of the woods these past few weeks has been the absence of the jetstream driving Atlantic fronts eastwards. The resulting weather has been better in the west than in the east of these islands.

Being a solar cycle watcher, I think we are seeing the effects of an early solar minimum, which for some reason has an effect on blocking patterns and the strength of the jetstream. We are in a meridional pattern instead of a zonal pattern for the foreseeable I think.


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