That's a bit simplistic, FW. Anybody criticising the government is giving specific reasons for doing so.

What seems to have developed is a core of people who have previously expressed consistent support for the Tory Party and/or Brexit, who endlessly defend this government regardless of performance, whilst they condemn those who criticise the government as having an anti-government agenda. 

Meanwhile those critical of the government have begun criticising those who faithfully defend them whilst criticising the critics.

Got that? 

Not entirely! To confuse you more I am not for one minute saying people shouldn't be criticising the government  as I am and do but just found it interesting that when I suggested some things maybe they should have said there were no alternative views, other suggestions or comments, but just arguments about what they had said.

 

There was no ‘context’ 

Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 

“Originally Posted by: Quantum

 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.

  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”

 

Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.

Because, having clarified my position, and pointed you to context in other posts you would rather argue with a strawman than accept on facevalue what I say my position is. I haven't U turned in the last 2 hours gandalf.

April 8th remains the peak in England with 886 deaths +2 on yesterday

Rolling chart with backdated data

UK data

• Total tests - 100,490


• People tested - 65,337


• Positive tests - 3,877


• All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)

I found this odd on the BBC News and typifies the lack of genuine thought and logic. Golf can start up with a maximum of two players. Must be social distancing and recommended not to touch flags (new rule allows flag to stay in now for putting anyway) and bunker rakes. That all makes perfect sense and I see no risk of cross transmission. Then they said basketball will also be allowed. So is each player going to sterilise the ball before they throw it to the next or keep social distance? One can only assume they mean that a single individual can stand on their own and throw a ball at a net and backplate.

 

There was no ‘context’ 

Let’s try again. Here’s your post in its entirety 

“Originally Posted by: Quantum

 If everyone had done what they were told during the lockdown we would be virtually back to normal by now.

 Giving people more responsibility when they can't handle the small amount they had seems ridiculous.

  If I was running things, it would be very different though I canguarantee none of you would like it.”

 

Even when you’re wrong and I’ve demonstrated it clearly you still argue. Unbelievable.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6887280/FINAL-6-6637-CO-HMG-C19-Recovery-FINAL-110520-v1.pdf

There's the document. It's very light on detail for secondary schools at least...

"Secondary schools and further education colleges should also prepare to begin some face to face contact with Year 10 and 12 pupils who have key exams next year, in support of their continued remote, home learning."

That's pretty much useless - it kind of hints at that being on June 1st, same as primaries, but doesn't explicitly give any dates.

I'm sure my head will be delighted, not!

 

I'm in no way left wing (despite what Maunder might claim) and I am highly critical of HMG's record on Covid-19.

I don't think I have ever accused you of being left wing. We have strong differences of opinion for sure, but I have never considered you to be a raving leftie - I see you rather as a Blair/Major/Heseltine type - part of the globalist, internationalist centre ground who sees the concerns of many ordinary people (and Brexit supporters) to be somewhat parochial. You are prone to the odd hissy fit, that is personality not politics

UK data

• Total tests - 100,490


• People tested - 65,337


• Positive tests - 3,877


• All setting deaths - 210 (goes against NHS England data of 209 I sense a mess up again)

No, you said NHS England reported 209 hospital deaths. All settings deaths are 210. Is that just England data?

209 was England

210 is the UK 

 

I don't think I have ever accused you of being left wing. We have strong differences of opinion for sure, but I have never considered you to be a raving leftie - I see you rather as a Blair/Major/Heseltine type - part of the globalist, internationalist centre ground who sees the concerns of many ordinary people (and Brexit supporters) to be somewhat parochial. You are prone to the odd hissy fit, that is personality not politics

You are correct. I left the Tory Party in 1995 when the b4stards were starting to undermine Major who I thought was a good PM. 

I found this odd on the BBC News and typifies the lack of genuine thought and logic. Golf can start up with a maximum of two players. Must be social distancing and recommended not to touch flags (new rule allows flag to stay in now for putting anyway) and bunker rakes. That all makes perfect sense and I see no risk of cross transmission. Then they said basketball will also be allowed. So is each player going to sterilise the ball before they throw it to the next or keep social distance? One can only assume they mean that a single individual can stand on their own and throw a ball at a net and backplate.

I would of thought basketball was one of the last sports they should bring back. Contact, indoors, touching equipment, just about crosses every box.

To further confuse matters the Daily Mirror is reporting 219 UK hospital deaths

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-uks-coronavirus-hospital-death-22008514

Clearly a day of mixed messages. Even the dead are confused.

P1ers Morgan was absolutely on fire this morning. Completely destroyed the abject Brigden. And spot on in every respect:

https://youtu.be/ha2vyuQprnQ

 

Daily Mail and Telegraph also ripping into Johnson today. Even Schofield has had enough!

But, no, the diehard bots here continue to defy reality!

Let's face it you never believe anything they write, can't think why you would suddenly now. 

Fickle and all that