The Beast from the East
14 September 2020 09:57:38


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The Beast from the East
14 September 2020 09:59:09

Direct hit on Bermuda from Paulette. You can see the island through the eye! Incredible!


https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?stormid=AL172020


 


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picturesareme
14 September 2020 10:13:58
The Beast from the East
14 September 2020 12:54:34


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Quantum
14 September 2020 13:11:44

Think its almost guaranteed we will beat 2005 now.


With an active hurricane season and low arctic sea ice it bodes very well for a cold winter this year.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
tallyho_83
14 September 2020 16:05:10

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Think its almost guaranteed we will beat 2005 now.


With an active hurricane season and low arctic sea ice it bodes very well for a cold winter this year.


 



But what about the what appears to be a failure of the easterly QBO?


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Quantum
14 September 2020 16:09:12

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


But what about the what appears to be a failure of the easterly QBO?



I suppose that would work against a cold winter.


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
ozone_aurora
14 September 2020 16:19:31

The winter of 05/06 was mostly cold, but dry & anticyclonic I seem to recall (there was a shortlived mild wet spell in mid February, followed by cold, wintery, but not too bitterly cold NE'erlies).

doctormog
14 September 2020 16:25:50

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


The winter of 05/06 was mostly cold, but dry & anticyclonic I seem to recall (there was a shortlived mild wet spell in mid February, followed by cold, wintery, but not too bitterly cold NE'erlies).



And bucketloads of snow at the end of February and the beginning of March. 


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15 September 2020 05:43:49

I'll try to remember that prediction of a long-term connection to a cold winter when we we get our usual slushfest ... but the Atlantic keeps on giving for now. Yesterday briefly there were FIVE named storms in action which as only happened once before, in 1971, but Rene hasnow dropped out.


Sally is the one to watch, still intensifying and with the actual position of a sharp turn to the north being critical when it makes landfall, maybe just east of New Orleans, maybe not; maybe cat 2, maybe higher. Main problem predicted is the amount of rain which is now 10-20".


The others are all out in the open ocean. Paulette heading for us as a hurricane but forecast to do a sudden turn southwards before it gets here. Teddy to become major hurricane in mid Atlantic, could affect Bermuda, Vicky following in Teddy's wake but quickly come and quickly go - Teddy has probably used up all the warm water.


And there are still two potential disturbances, one  near Africa, one in the Gulf, bth with moderate odds for development.


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Retron
15 September 2020 06:07:15

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


And bucketloads of snow at the end of February and the beginning of March. 



Ah yes, the late Philip Eden described the prolonged easterlies at the end of February as being perhaps the last proper easterly setup. To this date, it's the last time we had a repeating easterly pattern, as in the "old days". 14 days in a row of snowfall here...


EDIT: And that was of course early 2005, before the manic hurricane season. The following winter was its usual write-off down here.


Interesting to see this morning that the NHC have picked up on that potential low near Portugal that Q has mentioned... 20% chance so far.


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The Beast from the East
15 September 2020 11:06:05

Sally getting sheered but that is also preventing her from making landfall, so huge rainfall totals mounting up


 


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tallyho_83
15 September 2020 16:38:42

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Sally getting sheered but that is also preventing her from making landfall, so huge rainfall totals mounting up


 



The Cat 1 hurricane (Sally) is moving Northwards at 2 mph - you could walk faster than this!! Never knew hurricanes move slow but it's not expected to strengthen though!


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The Beast from the East
15 September 2020 19:20:19

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


The Cat 1 hurricane (Sally) is moving Northwards at 2 mph - you could walk faster than this!! Never knew hurricanes move slow but it's not expected to strengthen though!



"Redneck Riviera" getting record rainfall amounts


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picturesareme
15 September 2020 19:33:55

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


"Redneck Riviera" getting record rainfall amounts



ironically the rain itself isn't especially heavy,  just persistent. Rain rates are between 6-24mm p/hr with isolated burst upwards 50mm.

DEW
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16 September 2020 06:05:41

Still watching but all seems to be much as forecast yesterday. 


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tallyho_83
16 September 2020 10:22:54

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Still watching but all seems to be much as forecast yesterday. 



Poor forecast for Sally actually - the track shifted eastwards and Sally was meant to stay a cat 1 storm winds of 80mph but it strengthened to a cat 2 storm winds of 105mph.


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DEW
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17 September 2020 06:00:02

Paulette took in large quantities of wildfire smoke which had drifted across he US but has gone extratropical and will die out though it may give the Azores a rough time first.


Sally made landfall as cat 2 in Alabama and caused most damage through flooding, both storm surge and rainfall (30" Bellview in Florida, 22" Orange Beach in Alabama)


Teddy struggling a bit with wind shear but expected to be resilient enough to make cat 3 and menace Canada (now showing up on GFS chartviewer in that area)


Vicky on the way out.


90L (Gulf) and 98L (off Africa) both with good odds of development, the latter expected to run north of the Caribbean islands ( a popular sort of track this year). First to develop will be Wilfrid, then on to Greek letters - but still only one major hurricane, unlike other storm-ridden seasons which had up to five by this stage,


99L (off Portugal) not expected to take on tropical character but that won't prevent it from pushing showers/thinderstorms up to the S Coast.


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The Beast from the East
17 September 2020 11:50:31

Teddy's eye opens. Rapid intensification likely today, before shearing begins


 


https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?stormid=AL202020


 


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