moomin75
22 April 2019 13:55:08

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Saturday 27 Apr - Monday 6 May


Next weekend could be very unsettled, with often heavy rain and the risk of gales, especially in the west and southwest. Thunder and hail are likely at times and temperatures will mainly be on the cold side of average. Thereafter, for the remainder of April and into early May, unsettled conditions are likely to dominate, with a chance of showers or longer spells of rain and some periods of stronger winds, especially in the west and southwest. Whilst some rain is expected at times, there could be a shift towards more settled conditions later. Temperatures will most likely be near normal in the west, and slightly warmer than the seasonal average in the south and southeast.


Tuesday 7 May - Tuesday 21 May


For the middle of May, some rain and unsettled conditions are likely, especially at first. However, a shift towards more settled conditions than of late is probable. Whilst some rain is possible at times, a good deal of fine and dry weather is most likely, with temperatures mostly above the seasonal average. Any warmer conditions are most likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast


So stuck in a rut for 3-4 weeks then. Very cool and very unsettled. We could have just seen our summer.


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22 April 2019 16:40:23
Indeed so it looks like a run of Eeyore weather perhaps.
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picturesareme
22 April 2019 16:41:52

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


So stuck in a rut for 3-4 weeks then. Very cool and very unsettled. We could have just seen our summer.



Perhaps you rshould try and read it then..

LeedsLad123
22 April 2019 16:48:11

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


So stuck in a rut for 3-4 weeks then. Very cool and very unsettled. We could have just seen our summer.



Remember when you wrote off all of March for settled weather because it started off unsettled? Remember when you said the high temperature in February could stand until  May?


 


yeah, I think you should keep your stupid predictions to yourself.


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David M Porter
22 April 2019 22:35:55

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


So stuck in a rut for 3-4 weeks then. Very cool and very unsettled. We could have just seen our summer.



Kieren, with the greatest of respect to you, you don't do either yourself or this thread any favours with posts like this. In recent months, the models have struggled to pin down happenings 3-4 days ahead on some occasions, let alone 3-4 weeks in advance.


I wonder if, three weeks ago when April started poorly in many areas, you were predicting this current very warm spell for later in the month? I don't recall so.


 


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Gavin D
23 April 2019 11:46:37

Sunday 28 Apr - Tuesday 7 May


After a dry start, many places will become wet and windy on Sunday with heavy rain at times and a risk of gales, especially in the north and west. However, there will be sunny spells in some parts. For the end of April and start of May, changeable weather is likely to dominate, with a chance of showers or longer spells of rain and some periods of stronger winds, especially in the west and southwest. These will be interspersed with drier but probably short-lived sunny spells. Temperatures will most likely be near normal in the west, and slightly warmer than the seasonal average in the south and southeast. There is a chance of a shift towards drier warmer weather by the bank holiday weekend but this is far from certain.


Wednesday 8 May - Wednesday 22 May


For the middle of May, some wet & windy weather is likely, especially at first. However, there are indications of a shift towards more settled weather as the month progresses. A good deal of fine and dry weather is possible, with temperatures perhaps above the seasonal average. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Rob K
23 April 2019 14:15:52

A slightly more encouraging update there. I'm spending three days cycling across Wales in mid May so some dry conditions (and more importantly no headwind!) would be appreciated.


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PFCSCOTTY
23 April 2019 19:01:01
Yes even tomorrows forecast deluge (excuse the upcoming pun) has been watered right down to a few sporadic showers in the south east...only 24 hrs ago ...a dark blue blob had descended over us!
Arcus
23 April 2019 20:27:48

Originally Posted by: PFCSCOTTY 

Yes even tomorrows forecast deluge (excuse the upcoming pun) has been watered right down to a few sporadic showers in the south east...only 24 hrs ago ...a dark blue blob had descended over us!


If it's the BBC forecast that you're referring to then it's down to their appalling coarse resolution on their TV forecasts at T+48 onwards. It looks like Armageddon with intense rainfall covering 900 square miles 2 days ahead which suddenly gets reduced to a blob no bigger than Coventry when it comes into higher resolution. 


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Gavin D
24 April 2019 11:50:42

Monday 29 Apr - Wednesday 8 May


Mostly cloudy with outbreaks of rain on Monday, although a dry start for southeastern parts of the UK, perhaps. Rain and cloud will slowly clear to scattered showers and some sunny spells from the west for the afternoon. For the end of April changeable weather is likely to dominate, with a chance of showers or longer spells of rain and some periods of stronger winds, especially in the west and southwest. These will be interspersed with drier but probably short-lived sunny spells. Temperatures will most likely be near normal in the west, and slightly warmer than the seasonal average in the south and southeast. There is a chance of a shift towards drier warmer weather by the bank holiday weekend but this is far from certain.


Thursday 9 May - Thursday 23 May


For the middle of May, a trend back to some wet and windy weather is possible. However, there are indications of a return towards more settled weather as the month progresses. A good deal of fine and dry weather is possible, with temperatures perhaps above the seasonal average. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
24 April 2019 11:54:55

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Easter warmth easing this week. Changeable weather


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Wednesday 24 April—Sunday 28 April


Warmth fading, and turning more unsettled


After a glorious spell of largely dry, sunny and very warm weather over the Easter weekend, changes are afoot in the atmosphere now that will gradually introduce more unsettled weather back across the UK.  Recent days have seen a vast area of high pressure over Scandinavia and central and eastern Europe influencing the UK's weather, feeding in warm air from the south-east.  Low pressure has been gathering strength over Spain, Portugal, Biscay and north-west Africa and it is this feature that will introduce the weather changes over the UK this week.  The main uncertainty in recent updates has been how quickly and how far north-east this feature would push up across the UK, but there is now much better agreement in the forecast.


During the middle of this week, there is a slight risk that rain showers may bring some Saharan dust deposits, especially over central, northern and eastern areas.  You may see these on your car after a shower of rain. This is due to recent strong winds and thunderstorms over the northern Sahara, whipping up the fine Saharan sand and dust into the lower atmosphere, before being transported northwards by the aforementioned Spanish low pressure area. Temperatures falling back closer to average as we head through the second half of this week, as cooler air sweeps down from the far north Atlantic and Iceland.  Daytime maximum temperatures will be some 10ºC lower than they were over Easter in many areas.  A deepening low pressure area on Saturday looks set to spread cloud and rain eastwards, while winds over Wales and the southern half of England could become strong.  Sunday should see more sunshine than Saturday, but there will still be scattered showers.


Monday 29 April—Sunday 5 May


Cool and unsettled for a time, drier later


Similar to April last year, despite a very warm and dry spell in the third week of the month, the weather likes to remind us that we are still in the middle of spring and we have not yet reached summer, with a noticeably cool and unsettled spell to round off the month. With high pressure intensifying close to Iceland, this will deflect the track of North Atlantic low pressure areas towards the UK. 
Each one will bring extensive cloud cover and spells of rain, with the heaviest and most widespread of this falling over the southern half of the UK. Chilly north-easterly winds over northern areas, but this will also mean that sheltered western parts of Scotland could end up with plenty of dry weather and sunny spells, despite the lack of warmth. Snow seems unlikely, despite the cool and unsettled pattern, but we cannot completely exclude the threat of some wintry precipitation over the mountains in the north. 


Gardeners should keep a very close eye on forecast updates, as cool, clear nights between the low pressure areas could threaten a late season frost, especially over northern parts. There is some uncertainty during the latter part of this week and confidence is fairly low as a result. The most likely outcome is that we see high pressure becoming a little more widespread closer to the UK, with the unsettled weather tending to fade as low pressure slips away to the east. With winds often from the north, the nights will still be chilly, even if the daytimes feel pleasant in the sunshine. There is a 25-30% chance that high pressure builds more strongly over the UK and then the near continent, rather like it did this time last year. This would bring a warmer scenario, with temperatures back up into the low 20Cs by daytime.


Monday 6 May—Sunday 19 May


A lack of sustained wet & windy weather


The first full week in May should see high pressure over Iceland nudge closer to the UK. This will serve to reduce the chilly north-easterly wind flow and introduce a slightly warmer weather pattern. 
It is encouraging to see the latest longer range forecast models both predicting a similar story, which helps with forecast confidence. High pressure areas in late spring are often associated with plenty of sunshine, which allows daytime temperatures to rise quickly in the mornings, following cool and locally misty starts. However, as we saw last May, stubborn areas of coastal mist and fog can result in large differences in the weather over just a few miles. 


Some beaches can smothered in cold, dank, foggy weather all day, while just down the coast, or a few miles inland it can be warm and sunny. 
The main risk on the forecast is that the high pressure is less resilient and slips away to the south and east during the week, allowing Atlantic fronts to introduce a wetter and windier picture. By mid-May, confidence in the forecast becomes low. The most likely outcome is for further extensive high pressures areas over northern Europe, overhead the UK at times. The high pressure areas should be located further east than in early May, allowing the UK to tap into some much warmer southerly winds at times. There is about a 30% risk that high pressure could be located too far east to bring dry and settled weather to the UK, so wetter and breezier weather would be more likely.


Next Update


We saw some big week-to-week swings in weather type over the UK during April. May looks likely to see more changeable weather patterns. We'll attempt to add more detail for mid-May.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
26 April 2019 08:40:20

John Hammond's latest monthly outlook



  • Calmer next week

  • Drier weather returns

  • Temperatures uncertain


Full forecast as ever is here for subscribers*  https://weathertrending.com/2019/04/26/john-hammond-month-ahead-stormy-weather-blip/


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Gavin D
26 April 2019 08:41:21

Tuesday 30 Apr - Thursday 9 May


Tuesday looks like being dry and bright for most, with temperatures a little above average, though there is a risk of rain in Northern Ireland. A pattern of generally dry weather looks likely to continue for the first few days of May and into the bank holiday weekend. Day time temperatures may well become relatively warm and springlike, though less warm than we had last week. Reduced cloud amounts at night mean that night time temperatures may be fairly cold, with some fog patches, and even some late frost in susceptible parts of the north. The dry situation with light winds is uncertain though and there remains a chance of spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times, especially in the north and west.


Friday 10 May - Friday 24 May


There are indications that fine and dry weather will dominate in this period, with temperatures perhaps above the seasonal average. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast. This dry scenario with light winds is far from certain though and there are likely to be spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times, particularly in the north and west.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
26 April 2019 19:26:48

Wednesday 1 Apr - Friday 10 May


Showers or longer spells of rain are likely for many on Wednesday, though there will be sunny spells too. However, a pattern of generally dry weather looks likely to develop over the first few days of May and at the start of the bank holiday weekend. Although it could turn rather cold for a time in the north, day time temperatures are more likely to become warmer again though much less warm than over the Easter weekend. Reduced cloud amounts mean that nights may be fairly cold, with some late frost in susceptible parts of the north. How long the settled weather continues is uncertain and there remains a chance of spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times, especially in the north and west.


Saturday 11 May - Saturday 25 May


There are indications that fine and dry weather will dominate in this period, with temperatures near or perhaps above the seasonal average. There will be marked day to day regional variations as is usual in Spring. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast. This dry scenario with light winds is far from certain though and there are likely to be spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
27 April 2019 09:53:41

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


May starts changeable, but pressure should rise


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Saturday 27 April—Sunday 5 May


A stormy start, but turning more settled


Chilly with some mist or fog for central and eastern areas to start the new week, but it will remain wet in the west and south-west. It may become dry in the west overnight, although an active warm front will soon roll into western Britain on Tuesday, perhaps bringing some persistent rain later in the day. All areas could see some rain on Wednesday, which is likely to be quite cloudy as a set of fronts lie over the country. Pressure should build just to the west of the UK later in the week, perhaps allowing a brief but quite chilly north to north-westerly airflow to develop for a time, with an air frost possible locally in Scotland. As we approach the Bank Holiday weekend, it looks like high pressure will become extensive across Britain from the southwest. It should remain fine and dry for the southern and eastern half of the country, and it could warm up nicely too. However, northern and western areas will be more at risk of seeing some breezy and unsettled weather.


Monday 6 May—Sunday 12 May


A brief return to unsettled and cool conditions


The week should start on a dry and settled note for many areas, with high pressure likely to be lingering close to the country. Some rather warm weather is still possible in the south and southeast, while fronts could bring breezier conditions and some patchy rain to northern areas. It looks like high will soon slide to the east, opening the door to the Atlantic which is expected to send areas of low pressure east across the country, bringing a period of wetter, cooler and windier weather for a few days.


Northern and western Britain should experience the brunt of the unsettled weather, although the wet spell should not last for very long in southern Britain, maintaining drier than average weather which has persisted here since the middle of March. Towards the end of the week, high pressure will begin to build back across the south, and so the week could finish as it started here - with the weekend potentially seeing some dry, calm and warm weather once again. It will take a bit longer for high pressure to reach northern areas though, with unsettled weather perhaps lingering through the weekend.


Monday 13 May—Sunday 26 May


High pressure still holding on


By this stage, confidence in the forecast is rather low, with a weak jet stream producing rather slow-moving weather systems over the UK, which can be difficult to predict at longer ranges. However, we still anticipate pressure to be higher than normal close to the UK. This should allow drier and calmer weather to develop quite widely, with warm weather at times and temperatures above normal for the time of year.


As sea-surface temperatures are still rather cool, areas of low cloud and mist could give some damp, dull and drizzly weather around the coasts - although this could be quite localised, with sunshine possible just a few miles away. As the sun climbs ever higher in the sky, slow moving, heavy downpours and thunderstorms could threaten the dry weather, particularly in southern and central Britain. The main risk to the forecast is that low pressure in the North Atlantic moves across the UK, bringing a wet and windy spell.


Next Update


As we look towards the end of May, could the end of meteorological spring give us an early start to summer?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
27 April 2019 11:40:34

Thursday 2 May - Saturday 11 May


On Thursday the north will be breezy with sunshine and showers, while the south will be mostly dry with sunny spells. As we go into the first Bank Holiday weekend of May a pattern of generally dry weather is likely to develop, with some sunshine across most parts, although some western and eventually northern areas may see some more unsettled and windier conditions later. Although it could turn rather cold for a time in the north, day time temperatures are more likely to become warmer again. Nights may be fairly cold, with some late frost in susceptible parts of the north. How long the settled weather continues is uncertain and there remains a chance of spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times, especially in the north and west.


Sunday 12 May - Sunday 26 May


There is low confidence in the detail at the start of this period, with a chance of some changeable conditions at first, but by the middle of the month there are indications that more settled weather will begin to dominate. This should bring periods of light winds and fine and dry weather, but with a risk of occasional interludes of cooler, wet and breezy weather. Temperatures will be near to the seasonal average but, as is usual for this time in Spring, we can expect some marked day to day regional variations. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast, with the north and northwest probably seeing some cooler spells at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
28 April 2019 11:22:07

Friday 3 May - Sunday 12 May


Some showery rain pushes southeastwards on Friday, interspersed with brighter spells. Colder, showery conditions will spread into the north later, with the showers turning wintry over the Scottish mountains. During the Bank Holiday weekend a pattern of generally dry weather is likely to develop, with some sunshine across most parts, although western and northern areas may eventually see some unsettled and windier conditions later. After a cold start for many, day time temperatures are more likely to become warm again by the end of the weekend. Nights may be fairly cold, with some late frost likely. How long the settled weather continues is uncertain and there remains a chance of spells of wet, windy and cooler weather at times, especially in the west and north.


Monday 13 May - Monday 27 May


There is low confidence in the detail at the start of this period, with a chance of some changeable conditions at first, but by the middle of the month there are indications that more settled weather will begin to dominate. This should bring periods of light winds and fine and dry weather, but with a risk of occasional interludes of cooler, wet and breezy weather. Temperatures will be near to the seasonal average but, as is usual for this time in Spring, we can expect some marked day to day regional variations. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast, with the north and northwest probably seeing some cooler spells at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Gavin D
29 April 2019 11:33:48

Saturday 4 May - Monday 13 May


Cold, showery conditions will probably affect the east and far north on Saturday, with the showers likely to be wintry over northern hills. For the rest of the Bank Holiday weekend a pattern of generally dry weather is likely to develop, with a fair amount of sunshine across most parts, although western and northern areas may eventually see some more changeable and windier conditions later. After cold starts for many, daytime temperatures are more likely to become warmer again through the weekend. Nights will be fairly cold, with frosts likely. How long the settled weather continues is uncertain but it looks as if some changeable spells are likely into the following week, although confidence is very low. Temperatures will probably vary around normal for the time of year.


Tuesday 14 May - Tuesday 28 May


There is low confidence in developments for this period. There is a chance of some changeable conditions at first, but by the middle of the month there are indications that more settled weather may begin to dominate. This should bring periods of light winds and fine and dry weather, but with a risk of occasional interludes of cooler, wet and breezy weather. Temperatures will be near to the seasonal average but, as is usual for this time in Spring, we can expect some marked day to day regional variations. The highest temperatures are most likely in the south and southeast, with the north and northwest probably seeing some cooler spells at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

cultman1
29 April 2019 13:31:43
Extraordinary conflict of weather patterns for this weekend from different sections of the press with today’s Metro for example expecting a Spanish Plume and also mentioning Brian’s comments . One assumes the very cold plunge is nailed on with a very slow recovery of temperatures over the weekend .....
sunny coast
29 April 2019 20:19:16

one or two tabloids today telling of another bank holiday scorcher!The reality will be some what different by the current looks of things. All finely balanced tho

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