DEW
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06 May 2018 07:20:00

Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf 


I take it Hawaii has reminded folk that we were warned about an 'active year' for eruptions/earthquakes due to tidal forces in our solar system putting a strain on the crust of our little speck of dust?


Could it be a Deniers dream and we see a number of impacting eruptions and a global pall of ash/dust to send temps spiralling downward?


If so 3 years hence will be an interesting time!!! 



This theory has been promoted before, focusing on 1982


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jupiter_Effect


but the authors retreated with egg on their faces. Here's the verdict of one pf the authors


In his book, The Little Book of Science (pub. 1999), Gribbin admitted about his "Jupiter Effect" theory "...I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it."


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Hippydave
06 May 2018 17:27:47

Some interesting pictures etc. from a Washington Post article re Kilauea:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/06/a-very-fast-moving-situation-lava-shoots-through-hawaii-neighborhood-as-new-fissures-form/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.81fbef9c69f8 


All the ads are a bit irritating though


Favourite is probably the cracked road with fumes rising all around - would make a person a bit nervous of driving/getting around


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ozone_aurora
06 May 2018 18:06:03

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

 


I take it Hawaii has reminded folk that we were warned about an 'active year' for eruptions/earthquakes due to tidal forces in our solar system putting a strain on the crust of our little speck of dust?


Could it be a Deniers dream and we see a number of impacting eruptions and a global pall of ash/dust to send temps spiralling downward?


If so 3 years hence will be an interesting time!!! 


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This theory has been promoted before, focusing on 1982


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jupiter_Effect


but the authors retreated with egg on their faces. Here's the verdict of one pf the authors


In his book, The Little Book of Science (pub. 1999), Gribbin admitted about his "Jupiter Effect" theory "...I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it."



I don't believe in these planetary alignments and increase in incidents in earthquakes and volcanism. There's just no solid evidence of these occurring.

Having said that, I think the Moon tidal forces may have added extra energy to the Earth's interior, not so much now, but in the past when it was much closer to Earth. Of course, most of the Earth's internal heat originates from radioactive decay and from primordial heating.


The tidal theory all depends on how active our nearest neighbour is, which is similar in size and composition - Venus.

Devonian
06 May 2018 21:25:35

The solar system and nearby stars to scale. Colour me unconvinced that the tidal forces of the planets have other than a tiny effect on this planet.


What's also mind boggling is the immense distance between our nearby stars and the Sun.


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ozone_aurora
06 May 2018 22:12:06

May 5, 2018 Leilani Fissure Eruption Aerials

https://vimeo.com/268237716

Roger Parsons
07 May 2018 05:47:36

Originally Posted by: Devonian 


The solar system and nearby stars to scale. Colour me unconvinced that the tidal forces of the planets have other than a tiny effect on this planet.


What's also mind boggling is the immense distance between our nearby stars and the Sun.



This is my view too, Dev - but your post made me think of Chaos theory and the concept that small, apparently unrelated, events can trigger significant consequences elsewhere. 


Thinking of boggling and "Scale"- my mind boggled when a geological microbiologist told me that the estimated biomass of bacteria within the Earth's rocks exceeds the biomass of biological material on the surface itself. 


No wonder we are so keen to sample the Martian rocks


R


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DEW
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07 May 2018 06:49:58

Originally Posted by: Devonian 


 Colour me unconvinced that the tidal forces of the planets have other than a tiny effect on this planet.



The Wiki link above says that the planetary alignment of 1984 did affect the oceanic tides - by 40 micrometres


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ozone_aurora
14 May 2018 15:50:32

Eruptions continues at Kilauea's East Rift Zone, Hawaii, with Fissure 18 now active;

https://www.facebook.com/groups/520599478133644/?hc_ref=ARSJtpqXa9XNNDQVbnyd-tW-2sfI0nNaDxXg_gtPIsFiCkneAfsUQ5P1YGGbuNbsgYQ.


 

doctormog
17 May 2018 17:20:08
I see that there has now been an explosive eruption at the crater of Kilauea. Presumably after the lava lake lowered enough for water to enter the system and interact with the lava/magma.
Chunky Pea
17 May 2018 17:46:22

According the MSNBC at least, there is unconfirmed reports that the ash plume reached 25,000 ft in height:


 


https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/997151897424363521?s=20


 


Bad weather in the area at the moment hard to know if there is any truth in this. 


 


 


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doctormog
17 May 2018 18:07:41

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


According the MSNBC at least, there is unconfirmed reports that the ash plume reached 25,000 ft in height:


 


https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/997151897424363521?s=20


 


Bad weather in the area at the moment hard to know if there is any truth in this. 


 


 



USGS/HVO suggest the cloud reaches an altitude of 30000ft https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/status.html


“At about 0415 this morning, an explosion from the Overlook vent within Halemaumau crater at Kilauea Volcano's summit produced a volcanic cloud that reaches as high as 30,000 ft asl and drifted northeast. Continued emissions from the crater are reaching as high as 12,000 ft asl.

At any time, activity may again become more explosive, increasing the intensity of ash production and producing ballistic projectiles near the vent”


Darren S
17 May 2018 22:43:31

The BBC says there was a 30,000 ft plum. That's a large piece of fruit!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44159856


 


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AIMSIR
17 May 2018 23:41:30

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I see that there has now been an explosive eruption at the crater of Kilauea. Presumably after the lava lake lowered enough for water to enter the system and interact with the lava/magma.

That makes sense.

doctormog
19 May 2018 20:34:32
There is, at time of writing this, a nice live streaming YouTube video of the fissure eruption

ozone_aurora
19 May 2018 21:19:03

Eruptions continuing on Kilauea's ERZ, Hawaii - now producing fresh/new, much more fluid lava. Major lava flows occurring on fissure 20.

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01 June 2018 14:36:14

Brief burp from Mt Merapi, but enough for a red ash alert to aviation.


https://watchers.news/2018/06/01/eruption-at-mount-merapi-indonesia/


 


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Chunky Pea
04 June 2018 08:58:07

Very sad:


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/guatemalas-fuego-volcano-eruption-kills-25-injures-hundreds/ar-AAycg11?MSCC=1528102502&ocid=spartanntp


 


 


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DEW
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04 June 2018 18:40:13

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Very sad:


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/guatemalas-fuego-volcano-eruption-kills-25-injures-hundreds/ar-AAycg11?MSCC=1528102502&ocid=spartanntp



Some candidates for the Darwin awards watching


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhuZUQuWHS4


 


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picturesareme
04 June 2018 18:54:11

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Some candidates for the Darwin awards watching


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhuZUQuWHS4


 



another view of this can be found here..


 


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/969094/Guatemala-volcano-eruption-Fuego-video-LIVE-lava-ash-latest-news/amp 


you can see a front line view of it as it approached

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