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Ally Pally Snowman
13 January 2026 09:19:26
A growing very cold cluster but still an outside bet you'd have to say for now. Another fairly cold cluster also has a chance.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 


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Saint Snow
13 January 2026 09:27:27

There's some beauties in thatA growing very cold cluster but still an outside bet you'd have to say for now. Another fairly cold cluster also has a chance.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

There's some proper beauties in that. Somnetimes in these sort of set-ups the high can be too far south and it's the SE that gets the coldest temps, whilst up here it's less cold (850's) as lows pass SW-NE above the block and drag milder air into the mix. The trend in these ENS is for the high to be a bit further north, so no lows - and the Manchester ENS are just as cold (actually perhaps a little colder)


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Arbroath 1320
13 January 2026 09:39:51

Nearly but not quite output this morning.  It wouldn't take much for it to go completely Pete Tong or completely Snowmageddon.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Indeed. The potential for a cold easterly outbreak is still there across the MO, but there is so much that can go wrong as can be seen in recent model runs. The age old problem of not enough Atlantic energy going south, aided and abetted by the Azores High poking it's nose in, could very well scupper things again. Will be interesting to see how things develop, but my gut feeling is that this will be another case of close, but no cigar. Time will tell.


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Jiries
13 January 2026 10:09:56

A growing very cold cluster but still an outside bet you'd have to say for now. Another fairly cold cluster also has a chance.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

It been a while those runs the cold will start from 20-21 Jan with the peak coldest on 26-27th Jan, no push backs so hope this count down successfully so we can tap -15C as it needed with this global warming as the recent -10 to -11C here still delivered less cold temps 1-2C compare to -1 to -2C in the past thanks to global warming effects.  It would be good to have a prolonged cold to very cold period from 20th Jan to early Feb then we all happy with it to focus Spring after that.

CField
13 January 2026 10:44:35
Very near a Feb 1991 repeat on the 06z run....Potential doesn't deliver but luck does
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ballamar
13 January 2026 10:57:20
The op run delivers near perfect synoptics for the south, if you look at the charts and say but it’s not that cold - the temps in reality would be a lot. Older than those shown. Sort of run contingency planners either thrive on or hate!
tallyho_83
13 January 2026 11:11:49

Very near a Feb 1991 repeat on the 06z run....Potential doesn't deliver but luck does

Originally Posted by: CField 

If Only...

I thought it was funny how with the ECM 00Z shows the -10c isotherm just reaches the UK but comes to a halt with cold air to our North east is so near yet so far@ 312z.

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Retron
13 January 2026 11:39:57

The op run delivers near perfect synoptics for the south, if you look at the charts and say but it’s not that cold - the temps in reality would be a lot. Older than those shown. Sort of run contingency planners either thrive on or hate!

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

That'd be a 6-incher down here, an absolute peach of a run and a textbook midwinter easterly - something we've not seen since the 90s.

If it were possible to bank a run, that'd be the one!


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Quantum
13 January 2026 11:50:38
So I think we can officially declare that the easterly is going to happen now. Obviously this was the easy part. Do we actually get a proper cold airmass in though?

At T+144h we see that bubble of deep warm air over svalbard

https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2026011306/gfsnh-13-144.png?6 

The idea is that it drags the deep high northwards, while we end up with a cold cutoff that is pushed westward towards the UK, that would be the system containing the cold air at lower levels.

There are a few different ways it can go, if you want a more intense cold cutoff then the warm air should be further north; however that also opens the risk that the atlantic is able to have more of an influence. The warm bubble further south means a short fetch easterly is more likely but the uppers will probably be milder. 

I suspect we may get some resolution on this perhaps by tommorow's 12Zs. Then the key step will be at T+120 with much less scope for things to be dramatically different. However, the caveat is that Svalbard is pretty much inside the arctic where uncertainty is extremely high so pattern changes even with the more predictable upper trop can happen at lower lead times.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Bertwhistle
13 January 2026 12:29:37
This is not the first time that the GFS Op has picked up an interesting signal for well ahead. 

Didn't the last cold spell start with the Op, then a few other members of the GFS joining in, still with much doubt (although the Op resolutely stuck to its suggestions) until finally there was wider consensus?

A few other Ps have now joined the Op's repeated suggestions and the FI mean 850mb in the ENS at 0z dipped to -5 again.

Like to see the mean in an hour or so when the graphs roll out.


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Jiries
13 January 2026 12:37:10

That'd be a 6-incher down here, an absolute peach of a run and a textbook midwinter easterly - something we've not seen since the 90s.

If it were possible to bank a run, that'd be the one!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Very  nice set of 06z ensembles as it show near -12C  here and -14c over London, both should deliver deep proper cold.  Notice the mild spike then shot down to cold spike but both have some support and not total outlier both mild and deep cold.  Like other post above similar to Feb 1991 had a very mild spike for 1 day at 8C follow by -5C 3 days later.

No back track on the date line so hope now the count down commence.

GroundhogDay
13 January 2026 13:28:41
The latest GEFS look very promising! 😳

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850london0.png 


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13 January 2026 13:39:54

That'd be a 6-incher down here, an absolute peach of a run and a textbook midwinter easterly - something we've not seen since the 90s.

If it were possible to bank a run, that'd be the one!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Chichester, of all places, at -12.9C on the 06Z operational run for Jan 26th! And control run not far behind

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?model=gfs&var=2&geoid=50482&lid=ENS&bw=1 

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The Beast from the East
13 January 2026 13:45:22

Chichester, of all places, at -12.9C on the 06Z operational run for Jan 26th! And control run not far behind

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?model=gfs&var=2&geoid=50482&lid=ENS&bw=1 

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Originally Posted by: DEW 

You probably actually remember 1947!

A lot of people on the other channel getting very excited. But I will hold fire just yet,

So many things that can go wrong 


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Ally Pally Snowman
13 January 2026 13:59:03

You probably actually remember 1947!

A lot of people on the other channel getting very excited. But I will hold fire just yet,

So many things that can go wrong 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

AIFS 6z shows what can go wrong too much energy coming out of Nova Scotia and the low blasts the block and cold away before it even gets to the UK. 


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Lionel Hutz
13 January 2026 14:11:11

The latest GEFS look very promising! 😳

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850london0.png 

Originally Posted by: GroundhogDay 

Can anybody remind me the difference between the Op, the Control and all of their remaining runs showing on those graphs? To what extent are the Control and Op better predictors than any of the other lines?


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fairweather
13 January 2026 14:15:57
So winter probably isn't over! As I alluded when some were saying it was mild all the way to the end of the month the uncertainty from the 23rd was too far away and although it was almost all above the mean at the same point now it is mostly below the mean. That doesn't mean the accuracy is any better it just means the trend is going in the right direction. It's fun to look at but don't get sucked into anything further than 7 -10 days- ever, and 24 hrs if it's snow!
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Brian Gaze
13 January 2026 14:44:44

Can anybody remind me the difference between the Op, the Control and all of their remaining runs showing on those graphs? To what extent are the Control and Op better predictors than any of the other lines?

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 

The op is the highest-resolution run. It has unaltered starting conditions.

The control is run at the same resolution as all the other ensemble members, but like the op it also has unaltered starting conditions.

The other 30 runs have their initialisation data tweaked.

Theoretically, the op run is the best, but in practice the difference is meaningless. UKM are ditching the “op run” concept this year, I think.


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aceandy79
13 January 2026 15:59:42

The op is the highest-resolution run. It has unaltered starting conditions.

The control is run at the same resolution as all the other ensemble members, but like the op it also has unaltered starting conditions.

The other 30 runs have their initialisation data tweaked.

Theoretically, the op run is the best, but in practice the difference is meaningless. UKM are ditching the “op run” concept this year, I think.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Please forgive my ignorance, but why do they tweak the starting conditions for the other runs, surely the start is the only thing known to be true? What would be the point in running a simulation based on data known to be false at the start?


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Retron
13 January 2026 16:37:36

Please forgive my ignorance, but why do they tweak the starting conditions for the other runs, surely the start is the only thing known to be true? What would be the point in running a simulation based on data known to be false at the start?

Originally Posted by: aceandy79 

It's the only way to generate ensembles, otherwise every member would be exactly the same. 

The idea is that if small changes at the start mean big differences say 4 days later, you know the forecast confidence is low. If they all look more or less the same then conversely you know you can regard the forecast with more confidence. 


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GroundhogDay
13 January 2026 16:37:57

Please forgive my ignorance, but why do they tweak the starting conditions for the other runs, surely the start is the only thing known to be true? What would be the point in running a simulation based on data known to be false at the start?

Originally Posted by: aceandy79 

Lots of missing data when the run is initialised, due to patchy coverage, so they don't really know that the starting data is particularly accurate.

Tweaking the start point allows models to gauge whether slight alterations have a big impact further down the line. 

EDIT: What Darren Retron said 🔝


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Brian Gaze
13 January 2026 16:47:16

Please forgive my ignorance, but why do they tweak the starting conditions for the other runs, surely the start is the only thing known to be true? What would be the point in running a simulation based on data known to be false at the start?

Originally Posted by: aceandy79 

If you think about it the start can never be fully true because it is impossible to know the exact state of the atmosphere. 


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Retron
13 January 2026 16:57:05
What an absolute stunner the 12z GFS op turns out to be - another classic 80s style easterly, again with an upper high near Svalbard and a chunk of the Siberian High moving westwards as a result, settling over Scandinavia and delivering a truly bitter spell. Another 6-incher run for here!

Must... resist... (It's hard not to get a little excited, I have to say, as these midwinter easterlies are all but extinct.)

Here's the MC "LCC" view, which gives a better overview than the normal view. 

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/89/7306/gfseu_0_306mob2.png 

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warrenb
13 January 2026 17:05:56
Meto deep dive talking about a cooler week next week, but uncertainty on how far west the cold will advect.  GFS throw out a stonker.
Ally Pally Snowman
13 January 2026 17:09:24
The GFS 12z has found the outcome.

-17c 850s in the east.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=2&run=12&time=360&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref 


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