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Quantum
24 December 2025 07:46:42
On the white xmas front, whether or not the UK gets one all comes down to whether it snows at roughly 9am in Jersey. Seems to be a coin flip. 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

scillydave
24 December 2025 07:51:54

On the white xmas front, whether or not the UK gets one all comes down to whether it snows at roughly 9am in Jersey. Seems to be a coin flip. 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

I wouldn't rule out a flake or two on the high ground in the far Southwest of Cornwall .


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

Brian Gaze
24 December 2025 07:52:43

On the white xmas front, whether or not the UK gets one all comes down to whether it snows at roughly 9am in Jersey. Seems to be a coin flip. 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Not necessarily. UKV is now suggesting a few wintry showers. For example:

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Quantum
24 December 2025 08:11:10

Not necessarily. UKV is now suggesting a few wintry showers. For example:

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Its a good point, WRF suggesting something similar. South, west, and early seems to be key as that's where the temperatures will be low enough for the snow grains to survive (and I think it will be grains rather than flakes).


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Retron
24 December 2025 08:13:31

On the white xmas front, whether or not the UK gets one all comes down to whether it snows at roughly 9am in Jersey. Seems to be a coin flip. 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Jersey's not part of the UK, so it wouldn't count.


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BJBlake
24 December 2025 08:15:56
https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ukmhd&var=2&time=0&run=0&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6 

Which seems to endorse the GFS - albeit With a little less gusto. The ECM reluctantly admits to a motherly at the end of the run - by the 8th of Jan, but with a very bland fetch that would be good for wintry showers perhaps. The GFS is however, a humdinger - proper eye candy with -10 uppers and heaps of snow down the east side - if only!!


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
roadrunnerajn
24 December 2025 08:18:31

I wouldn't rule out a flake or two on the high ground in the far Southwest of Cornwall .

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

I’ll walk up the hill behind me tomorrow which is 815ft and report on any suspicious white precipitation 😁


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moomin75
24 December 2025 08:49:26
The ECM longer range is looking VERY good this morning with a significant Greenland high and bitterly cold north/northeasterly flow.

A long way off, but not without support.

One to watch.


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100m ASL

DEW
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24 December 2025 08:57:58
FAX - slowly moves the HP from 1044mb Oslo to 1041mb Hebrides by Sun 28th, keeping the E-lies going and blocking the Atlantic. The source of the E-lies moves from SE Europe to N Atlantic round the 'top' of the HP.

GFS Op - As FAX; then the HP moves towards Greenland by New Year's Eve, allowing properly N-lies to develop and on Fri 2nd in combination with LP 990mb Germany deliver a brief very cold and unsettled NE-ly blast to SE England. The HP soon resumes sinking  S-wards, first pushing the LP away and later, by Fri 9th is in C Atlantic, no longer an effective block, and Britain is under NW-lies.

ECM - At first resembles GFS though the HP is less intense but closer to Britain fending off any New Year N-lies. Then a break from GFS as the HP retreats to Greenland 1035 mb Mon 5th with strong Arctic N-lies bringing a snowy-looking LP to N Britain (985mb Cape Wrath) which then swings away to Norway. S England eventually gets the cold air on Thu 8th but less promise of snow. HP at 1025mb maintains an Atlantic block.

GEM looks like ECM but with weaker pressure gradients and more Atlantic influence, often from the NW

AIFS - London, maxima up and down from a basic 5C, some cold rain from Tue 6th. Edinburgh, also around 5C but clearly colder Mon 29th and milder Sun 4th, also rain later on. (but as Darren points out, a blocking situation is unusual, so there will less data for AIFS to rely on)

GEFS - in the S, cold for Christmas Day, fairly mild to New Year's Eve, then cold or very cold for the first week of January, back to near  norm by 7th, small chance of small amounts of rain in the New Year but could be snow for the east coast early January. In the N, not specially cold for Christmas and not quite so much below norm in New Year, but looking much as in the S 

The models still having problems forecasting a blocked situation; plenty of scope for cherry-picking.


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nsrobins
24 December 2025 09:27:38
Out of interest, does graupel count as snow for white Christmas metrics? With so much at stake will someone examine any substance that falls for the classic six-prong flake representation? As anyone with a modicum of meteorological savvy knows (not the gutter press of course), graupel and snow are as far apart as hail and peas.

(Not soft hail 😊)


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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Dickieboy68
24 December 2025 09:46:46
Quick post on my theory of matching heat waves vs "cold" waves - if you would recall there were 4 official heatwaves over 2025, so there should be 4 cold waves over winter 25/26. 

We have had one back in November, Twixmas models show that this is now the second. Enjoy!! 


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Rob K
24 December 2025 09:54:22

Jersey's not part of the UK, so it wouldn't count.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Indeed, I never understood why Jersey sometimes crops up in UK temperature records - it has its own Met Office after all. You might as well include records from Bermuda or the Falkland Islands (neither of which is likely to get a white Christmas AFAIK)


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Brian Gaze
24 December 2025 10:16:44
I’ve recalibrated the ECM snow depth charts on TWO to make them more realistic (in my opinion) for UK conditions. This shows the ECM 00Z accumulations.

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Polar Low
24 December 2025 10:23:46
Nice,

another little correction west cold really digging in to Europe Snow very likely East coast

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=174&mode=0&carte=1 

Rob K
24 December 2025 10:27:30
GFS giving another good dump of snow down the eastern side of the country to welcome in 2026. Next best thing to a white Xmas is a white New Year.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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doctormog
24 December 2025 10:32:42
The GFS is quite consistent with its outlook over the New Year period, however that isn’t really supported across the other models. For that reason I would urge a lot of caution until closer to the time.

Having said that, the 06zGFS 90 run is a nice run for that time period. As ever the ensembles will be interesting to see how isolated it is.

At least there are several interesting options in the medium to longer term output.


Brian Gaze
24 December 2025 10:35:25
GFS keener than AIGFS on a cold plunge for the new year.

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BJBlake
24 December 2025 10:38:24

GFS giving another good dump of snow down the eastern side of the country to welcome in 2026. Next best thing to a white Xmas is a white New Year.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Agree - well supported in the pert’s too, and UKMO charts mirror the timing of the retrogression of the HP - as the GFS. 


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
Ally Pally Snowman
24 December 2025 10:43:22

GFS giving another good dump of snow down the eastern side of the country to welcome in 2026. Next best thing to a white Xmas is a white New Year.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

I'll take it ! 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=25&run=6&time=216&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
24 December 2025 10:48:31
Quantum
24 December 2025 10:58:45

Jersey's not part of the UK, so it wouldn't count.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Crown dependency, with metoffice weather stations counts surely?


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Quantum
24 December 2025 11:00:00

Indeed, I never understood why Jersey sometimes crops up in UK temperature records - it has its own Met Office after all. You might as well include records from Bermuda or the Falkland Islands (neither of which is likely to get a white Christmas AFAIK)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The falkland islands is actually more likely to get a white xmas than you'd expect. The southern ocean is so cold that snow can fall even during midsummer.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Brian Gaze
24 December 2025 11:11:55
GFS 06Z looks good in much of the east! 😉

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Hippydave
24 December 2025 11:20:21
Some lovely looking charts thrown out by GFS at the moment but unless ECM starts to show some enthusiasm for the idea, I think I'll disregard them for now. 

Which is a shame as they really do look nice 😂

Whether the GFS has gone off on one or not is TBC but as most of the models are at least suggesting a chance of a cold shot over the next couple of weeks, there's still plenty of scope for optimism. 


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Jiries
24 December 2025 11:23:04

Bitter over the snow fields 🥶 🧊 ☃️ 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=17&run=6&time=240&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

See the proper deep cold over France? We need this to move further west on further runs to join what France will get.  Notice date line had been pushed back a bit?  Need this to bring forward and this morning  00z ensembles only show -5C here so need to see -10C to -15C uppers to occur just to get a subzero max temps I am much after.  06z ensembles show again -5c but notice Nicosia ensembles are trending more colder so not a good sign if the deep cold take divertion to Greece and E Med instead of here.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=48656&model=gfs&var=201&run=6&lid=ENS&bw=1 

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